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    Biden Pardons Hunter on all counts

    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 12-16-2024 at 09:43 AM. Reason: added "RELATED" link
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    Wow, the online dictionaries sure do update fast nowadays:

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    Thanks for admitting that the DOJ is inherently political
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Without aggravating factors like use in a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser, people are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form.
    Well, fine then. Let's get rid of that question on the questionnaire; and any laws pertaining to it.

    Zero chance of that happening.

    And what about Trump's charges in New York? Who else, other than Trump and those associated with him, has been prosecuted for those? Would anyone not named Donald Trump have been prosecuted for it? Doesn't that make it a politically-motivated prosecution?
    My choice of third person pronouns for myself is generally irrelevant. I'm not typically involved in the conversations that use them. It's other people referring to me in the third person, usually from a distance. I'm not a conversational partner in those exchanges. Those people could be referring to me as "That A$$hole" or "That Motherfukker" for all I know.

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    Interesting how this pardon covers any crimes Hunter may have done between 2014-2024.
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    It's a good thing that Hunter was the one, singular case where a person was targeted by the federal government for political prosecution.

    Thanks for pointing that out for us and restoring faith in the federal agencies, Brandon.

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    Meh, I don't really care much.

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    Crime and Justice News
    In the 2019 fiscal year, when Hunter Biden purchased his gun, federal prosecutors received 478 referrals for lying on Form 4473 — and filed just 298 cases. The numbers were roughly similar for fiscal 2020.
    My choice of third person pronouns for myself is generally irrelevant. I'm not typically involved in the conversations that use them. It's other people referring to me in the third person, usually from a distance. I'm not a conversational partner in those exchanges. Those people could be referring to me as "That A$$hole" or "That Motherfukker" for all I know.



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    Just remember, kids:

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    This is probably the funniest possible outcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    This is probably the funniest possible outcome
    Clown world is quite humorous
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    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1863424535594205258

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    This is probably the funniest possible outcome
    Anyone with 2 functioning neurons knew this would be the outcome.
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    $#@! form 4473.

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    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".



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    Is Biden about to resign? Why didn't he wait until January 19th to issue the pardon?
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    https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status...99180032147530
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Is Biden about to resign? Why didn't he wait until January 19th to issue the pardon?
    My brother recently compelled me to watch this retrospective of Firefly because the presenter makes a damned good point.
    Of course we didn't get the conclusion that the show deserved (after about 10 seasons) but the primary reason it doesn't work today is because 20 years ago the writers were operating from a headspace where governments still had some sense of shame. They wrote stories with the understanding that the state had to keep up appearances and would go to pretty great lengths to cover up the fact that it had done horrible things.

    "Collateral Murder" was released 14 years ago. Nobody cared. The only response was to try to identify who leaked it and punish him.

    Before that, our tax dollars were literally paying for boy rape parties in Afghanistan. Still nobody cares.

    Trump already had every reason anyone ever needed to declare that he was going to be dismantling the FBI and returning all of its constitutional responsibilities to the entities that handled them prior to 1908. But we're not getting that - we're getting replacement, and continuation.

    Biden signed the pardon now because he doesn't give a $#@! because nobody else gives a $#@!. We're in Frank Zappa's late stage illusion of freedom and all people want is for some of the scenery to go back on stage. Nobody wants actual change. They just want the illusion back. Including you. Because who cares, really, if it's now or on January 19th? The only reason to care is because you know the main problem with doing it now is that the illusion of freedom is further shattered, and that's what matters the most to everyone. We all assume it's going to happen. We just don't want to know.

    This is essentially what the whole Summer of Love was about. Everyone knows cops choke out, beat down, and straight up murder black men who were doing nothing wrong but being high. Rodney King was a whole lifetime ago at this point and it's been happening regularly ever since. No matter how many times they say it's about George, it was never about George. It was about the fact that he knelt on his neck for 9 minutes and everyone was powerless to stop it. It was the most naked expression of how controlled we all are, and when the lines got drawn, it was all the people who are 100% comfortable with that on one side, and everyone who is pissed off about that on the other. The illusion of freedom was shattered.

    He didn't wait until January 19th because we are at a stage in US history where he didn't have to and is totally comfortable sending the message of $#@! you for even thinking about that.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Interesting twist for the incoming AG...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...5493603e&ei=13

    Hunter Biden would have to answer questions about his business interests if called before Congress, a criminal defense lawyer has said.

    Kevin Adams said that President Joe Biden's decision to pardon his son now clears the way for Congress to call Hunter as a witness. Newsweek sought email comment from Hunter Biden's attorney on Monday...

    ...Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan strongly suggested on X, formerly Twitter, that Hunter may be called to give evidence as Republicans consider whether to impeach President Biden for his business interests with his son. "Democrats said there was nothing to our impeachment inquiry. If that's the case, why did Joe Biden just issue Hunter Biden a pardon for the very things we were inquiring about?" Jordan wrote on Sunday.

    Adams wrote on X that Hunter can no longer refuse to answer questions before Congress.

    That is because the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects people from having to answer questions before Congress if it could help a prosecution case against them or compel them to make self-incriminating statements.

    With Hunter now free from all his criminal cases, he cannot use the Fifth Amendment to refuse to answer questions.

    "The upside to Joe Biden's pardon is that Hunter Biden no longer enjoys the right to assert his 5th Amendment Right against self incrimination and contempt of Congress is also a crime," Adams wrote.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Interesting twist for the incoming AG...
    Yeah they will drop it, it'll be old news here in a few weeks. Republicans are too weak to pursue actual crimes.
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    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Meh, I don't really care much.
    I always assumed Hunter would get a pardon anyway. Besides, a $#@!up like Hunter will probably commit new crimes soon because he can't help himself.
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    I admit that I didn't follow Hunter, but according to that OP letter it was over taxes a gun registration form? Shouldn't this be celebrated?

    Will Trump pardon America if they don't pay taxes and fill out gun forms too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Is Biden about to resign? Why didn't he wait until January 19th to issue the pardon?
    I think the sentencing hearing was coming up for in mid-December for the existing convictions. I assume it was to save Hunter the trouble/risk of being handcuffed and jailed after sentencing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I admit that I didn't follow Hunter, but according to that OP letter it was over taxes a gun registration form? Shouldn't this be celebrated?
    That's half of the humor.



    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Will Trump pardon America if they don't pay taxes and fill out gun forms too?
    That depends on how much money you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I admit that I didn't follow Hunter, but according to that OP letter it was over taxes a gun registration form? Shouldn't this be celebrated?

    Will Trump pardon America if they don't pay taxes and fill out gun forms too?
    It was for any offenses that he did or may have committed against the United States from January 1, 2014 (the year he was hired by Burisma) to December 1, 2024.

    So, no, it was not just the gun stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Meh, I don't really care much.
    C'mon, embrace the schadenfreude...

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    It was for any offenses that he did or may have committed against the United States from January 1, 2014 (the year he was hired by Burisma) to December 1, 2024.

    So, no, it was not just the gun stuff.
    This is correct, it was a full and unconditional pardon for everything he did or may have done over a ten year span of addiction, corruption and back room dealing with foreign adversaries.

    Pretty impressive when you think about it, I'll have to do some research, but I am seeing this pop up all over: that this was the most comprehensive pardon ever granted by a president.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

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