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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, one of the articles talked about a second source.
    You obviously didn't even read it.
    One more thing you pathological liar. I NEVER SAID THE ARTICLES MENTIONED A SECOND SOURCE! YOU ARE THE LIAR THAT CLAIMED I WAS USING ANOTHER SOURCE
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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. You are a pathological liar! You bring up race and then try to claime the people who call you out on your racism racist! And culturally, Europeans historically are the ones who normalized homosexuality. Lesbiianism comes from the name of a Greek island. And don't even get started on the Spartans! They raped boys routinely as a way to induct them into the military.
    I was not the one who brought up race, you keep dragging race into it and I responded.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    As for who's destroying our culture, I give you Exhibit C.

    We can all see who is the race obsessed compulsive liar.


    Perversion is common all across history and the globe, you are repeating leftist slander against Europeans again.
    Your evidence just shows that we are speaking a European language and that Europeans were better at recording and preserving their history.
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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    One more thing you pathological liar. I NEVER SAID THE ARTICLES MENTIONED A SECOND SOURCE! YOU ARE THE LIAR THAT CLAIMED I WAS USING ANOTHER SOURCE
    You've completely lost it.

    I said that one of the articles had a second source, I never said you had a second source.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You've completely lost it.

    I said that one of the articles had a second source, I never said you had a second source.
    Bullshyt. The "second source" was just a Chinese language version of the Epoch Times which went to the same Pennsylvania Database. Your original bullshyt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    More than 20,000 absentee ballots in Pennsylvania have impossible return dates and another more than 80,000 have return dates that raise questions, according to a researcher’s analysis of the state’s voter database.
    Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out—an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.
    The state’s voter records are being scrutinized as President Donald Trump is challenging the results of the presidential election in Pennsylvania and other states where his opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, holds a tight lead. The Trump campaign is alleging that invalid ballots have been counted for Democrats and valid ballots for Republicans were thrown away.
    The analysis of the publicly available data was conducted by a data researcher who submitted it first to the Chinese-language edition of The Epoch Times. The researcher, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he consulted about the matter with several USPS field engineers, who said the return dates shown in the database are “impossible.”

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/pen...-dates-3572942
    The so called "second source."



    So a second person went supposedly went to the same database and gave the same bullshyt? It's the same damn source liar.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I was not the one who brought up race, you keep dragging race into it and I responded.


    We can all see who is the race obsessed compulsive liar.


    Perversion is common all across history and the globe, you are repeating leftist slander against Europeans again.
    Your evidence just shows that we are speaking a European language and that Europeans were better at recording and preserving their history.
    You are the racist. You are the one obssessed with race. You attack other people's cultures and when I call you out on it by showing facts from European culture you lie and claim I'm the one who brought up race. GTFO.

    This is how these conversations go racist.

    Racist Swordsmyth : "These immigrants are degrading American culture."
    jmdrake: "Eurpoean culture is just as degraded as any other culture."
    Racist Swordsmyth : "You're racist for talking about European culture."
    Last edited by jmdrake; 11-28-2024 at 07:11 AM.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You are the racist. You are the one obssessed with race. You attack other people's cultures and when I call you out on it by showing facts from European culture you lie and claim I'm the one who brought up race. GTFO.

    This is how these conversations go racist.

    Racist Swordsmyth : "These immigrants are degrading American culture."
    jmdrake: "Eurpoean culture is just as degraded as any other culture."
    Racist Swordsmyth : "You're racist for talking about European culture."
    I talk about culture and who various populations actually vote for, you always drag it back to race, cherry pick a few people or pieces of history, and try to place blame on the majority of whites while claiming nonwhites to be superior.

    Every step of the way you bring up race and lie about whites.

    Me:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You will find a few people from all groups on both sides of most issues, remember I told you it was good vs. evil not racial, but you just have to make everything racial.
    You:
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. You are a pathological liar! You bring up race and then try to claime the people who call you out on your racism racist! And culturally, Europeans historically are the ones who normalized homosexuality. Lesbiianism comes from the name of a Greek island. And don't even get started on the Spartans! They raped boys routinely as a way to induct them into the military.
    Total garbage as I pointed out, perversion has always been everywhere, but you try to make it out to be something whites invented.

    And that was after you brought race into this thread first and kept dragging it in every step of the way.

    You just lie and lie and lie, both by what claims you make and by what facts you ignore, like minorities overwhelmingly voting for the party that promotes all this stuff for generations now until just recently some of them are finally waking up.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Bullshyt. The "second source" was just a Chinese language version of the Epoch Times which went to the same Pennsylvania Database. Your original bullshyt.



    The so called "second source."



    So a second person went supposedly went to the same database and gave the same bullshyt? It's the same damn source liar.
    Again, you fail to comprehend anything, of course both sources were citing the same government data, that's what they both were exposing, they couldn't cite something else when making claims about the government data.
    The second source was the person who contacted the Epoch Times who was different than the person who was the one who posted the information in the other article.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I talk about culture and who various populations actually vote for, you always drag it back to race, cherry pick a few people or pieces of history, and try to place blame on the majority of whites while claiming nonwhites to be superior.
    Ah. So voting for George W. Bush is something for your race to be proud of? And it's funny that you bring up race and then you lie and say I "drag it back to race." Then you, being a consumate liar, ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of those involved in drag queen story hour are white people, then cherry pick one story of illegal immigrants hosting a drag show, you ignore the fact that Muslims and Latinos and blacks voted for to ban gay marriage while white people in California voted against they ban, and you lie and say it's all about voting patterns. Whatever dude.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Again, you fail to comprehend anything, of course both sources were citing the same government data, that's what they both were exposing, they couldn't cite something else when making claims about the government data.
    The second source was the person who contacted the Epoch Times who was different than the person who was the one who posted the information in the other article.
    So since two people tell the same lie that makes it the truth? I actually went through the numbers and told you how to do it if you wanted to. But you would believe a lie rather than the truth.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Ah. So voting for George W. Bush is something for your race to be proud of?
    No, but it sure beats voting for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton, and still leaning towards Harris.

    Minorities, immigrants, and illegal migrants have given overwhelming support to the party of open evil for generations, while whites gave majority support to the party that claimed to oppose it.


    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And it's funny that you bring up race and then you lie and say I "drag it back to race."
    YOU brought it into the thread and you kept reinserting it:
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    As for who's destroying our culture, I give you Exhibit C.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And it wasn't "everyone" who voted down gay marriage in California. It was a 52.24% majority against a 47.46% minority. 51% of whites voted NO to proposition 8 and 70% of blacks and 53% of hispanics voted YES.

    See: https://abcnews.go.com/images/Pollin...ayMarriage.pdf

    So if it had been up to your and @Anti Federalist's people, proposition 8 would NOT have passed. That exit poll didn't break out Muslims but based on what happened in Deerborn Michigan they most likely voted yes to proposition 8 in high numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Lame attempt at intersectionalism by the left which was rebuffed by Latinos voting for Trump in this last election. In one border town that is 97% Hispanic, Trump got 75% of the vote. That has to burn you up I'm sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    No I'm not. @PAF made the point about immigrants, not illegals. And a town with 97% Hispanics most likely has a lot of first generation migrants. Every immigrant community had a first generation. Culturally Latinos and Muslims are more conservative than white people who have been here many generations. Those are the people destroying American culture. YOUR people.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Ray Epps is a WHITE PERSON who's family has been here many generations.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And....that's mostly being done by, you can say it, WHITE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE MULTIPLE GENERATIONS! The Mexicans who voted 75% for Trump in a border town that is 97% Mexican are not that culturally different from the Mexicans on the other side of the border. Your whole "We must save American culture from Mexicans and Muslims" is just stupid because they tend to be more culturally conservative. They have fewer abortions. They are less likely to vote for LGBTQ. Are there reasons to deal with the border crisis and curtail the mass unchecked migration that's currently happening? Yes. The shift in support for Trump among Latinos shows that even they agree with this. But your cultural argument is bullshyt.


    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Then you, being a consumate liar, ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of those involved in drag queen story hour are white people, then cherry pick one story of illegal immigrants hosting a drag show, you ignore the fact that Muslims and Latinos and blacks voted for to ban gay marriage while white people in California voted against they ban, and you lie and say it's all about voting patterns. Whatever dude.
    You being the congenital liar ignore the fact that it's dominated by Jews, immigrants, illegal migrants, and people with only a few generations here while also including a significant amount of minorities, and make it about race again.
    Whites being the majority will naturally feature strongly on all sides of any subject here, that doesn't prove anything.
    Muslims, latinos, and blacks may have voted against a specific issue, but then they turned around and continued to vote for the people imposing it over the will of the voters, only some of them are starting to wake up recently.
    IF the exit polls were accurate (and there is reason to doubt) then the cesspool of the party the minorities vote overwhelmingly for had a SLIGHT majority of whites who voted against the ban.
    Meanwhile whites everywhere else were solidly against it and didn't vote for the party forcing it down our throats.

    You lose by being the one to make it about race, and you lose when we examine it on a racial basis.


    Getting back to the facts relevant to the thread, immigrants and illegal migrants overwhelmingly support the party of open evil, they have to go.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 11-28-2024 at 08:09 AM.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So since two people tell the same lie that makes it the truth? I actually went through the numbers and told you how to do it if you wanted to. But you would believe a lie rather than the truth.
    It was not a lie, they have had 4 years to change the numbers.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Getting back to the facts relevant to the thread, immigrants and illegal migrants overwhelmingly support the party of open evil, they have to go.
    Your people overwhelming voted for gay marriage when blacks, Mulsims and Latinos voted against it so STFU. And there weren't enough secular Jews in California to account for that. Also Clinton and Obama didn't pass the Patriot Act or create the Department of Homeland Insecurity or lead America into a disasterous war in Iraq. Obama actually got us out of that war even though he later f'ed up with Libya and Syria.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It was not a lie, they have had 4 years to change the numbers.
    Neither of your fake sources have put there supposed original dataset anywhere that it can actually be downloaded. Nice way to be able to keep someone from independently verifying their claims.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 11-28-2024 at 08:24 AM.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Your people overwhelming voted for gay marriage when blacks, Mulsims and Latinos voted against it so STFU. And there weren't enough secular Jews in California to account for that. Also Clinton and Obama didn't pass the Patriot Act or create the Department of Homeland Insecurity or lead America into a disasterous war in Iraq. Obama actually got us out of that war even though he later f'ed up with Libya and Syria.
    LOL
    "Your people" voted for the party that forced the pervert garbage down everyone's throats, and they did it all over the country not just in one of the most leftist states in the country.
    Clinton did Waco, bombed Serbia, instituted "Don't ask, Don't Tell" to let perverts into the military and many other evil things.
    Obama kept the wars going, he did NOT "end Iraq", he also did too many horrible evil things to count, including ending "Don't ask, Don't tell" and allowing open perverts into the military.

    "Your people" disproportionately use abortions and commit crimes etc. etc. etc.

    I've tried to keep race out of this, but if you insist on taking us there then you are stuck with the facts about race.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Neither of your fake sources have put there supposed original dataset anywhere that it can actually be downloaded. Nice way to be able to keep someone from independently verifying their claims.
    Probably because the state took the data private and doctored it before making it public again, the sources linked to it 4 years ago before it got hidden and changed.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #166
    @Swordsmyth @jmdrake
    Threads are a lot better when you don't call people liars and racists. I thought I'd point that out since the mods are inept, play favorites sand don't take care of offending posts

    If they weren't then all the posts I've reported in the last few days would be gone. But they are not
    I am the current Champion of "The Dallas Cowboys will win the NFC, Pick'em Contest" and you are not


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