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Thread: Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy: The DOGE Plan to Reform Government

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    https://x.com/USAB4L/status/1869559213632192838
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    Looks like Elon doensnt know how to manage expectations


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njztc2whCoA
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    Downsized DOGE
    by Adam Dick | Jan 11, 2025

    Elon Musk stirred up much hope among many small government advocates when he spoke on stage at Donald Trump’s October 27 presidential campaign rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Musk declared then his expectation that the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), which Musk would go on to run with Vivek Ramaswamy, would reduce yearly United States government spending by “at least two trillion dollars.” This week, Musk let those small government advocates down, reducing by more than half the spending cuts he predicts DOGE will accomplish.

    On Wednesday, Musk stated in an interview with host Mark Penn at X that cuts reaching two trillion dollars is now “like the best-case outcome” and that there is just a “good shot” at achieving a one trillion dollars reduction in yearly spending.

    That’s how much expectations have been lowered before Trump is even sworn in as president later this month. A year from now, will Musk have downsized the expected achievement of DOGE so much that he will have given up on projecting any spending reduction? Will he then be talking about how DOGE can limit the increasing of US government spending?
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    https://ronpaulinstitute.org/downsized-doge/
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    power to the people

    and the people's money (not the crypto stalking horse)

    and not to the X-Cult Technocrats

    do or die time
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    Here is the Executive Order establishing DOGE:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...nt-efficiency/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Been rumored for a couple of days, official now. Vivek is out.


    https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status...82161565618648


    https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status...71622118322341
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    His exit has been rumored since his "American Culture" Xeet the day after Christmas


    https://x.com/vivekgramaswamy/status...12139945234507

    The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH:

    Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.

    A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.

    A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers.

    (Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates).

    More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.”

    Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve.

    Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest.

    “Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China.

    This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness.

    That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 01-21-2025 at 09:12 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
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    I do not disagree with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Here is the Executive Order establishing DOGE:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...nt-efficiency/
    What is your opinion of DOGE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I do not disagree with him.
    What do you mean? They give stickers for achievement! (just like elementary school). LOL
    My choice of third person pronouns for myself is generally irrelevant. I'm not typically involved in the conversations that use them. It's other people referring to me in the third person, usually from a distance. I'm not a conversational partner in those exchanges. Those people could be referring to me as "That A$$hole" or "That Motherfukker" for all I know.

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    ...this is probably a big part of why they want this "back to in-person" rule (which is mostly I.T. and information work). "I.T. modernization" is essentially an outsourcing directive. In order to build their panopticon, they need the tech stack in the hands of the CIA/et al. So federal workers must all be in-person, which creates a great incentive for the federal employee to just move over to the contractor who will let you work remote. Clever if your goal is to outsource all the I.T. That is what happens in reality. Someone who used to work for the Feds now works for a contractor that works for the Feds. The contrator doesn't have subject matter experts, they have to pull them from the client. The I.T. person makes the same or slightly more money, and the government pays the contractor twice as much.

    What is end result. Same tech, more money, more deep state control of government infrastructure.

    And guess what...

    they still gonna be remote.
    Last edited by wizardwatson; 01-21-2025 at 12:20 PM.
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    Vivek Ramaswamy sets the record straight on leaving DOGE & a feud with Elon Musk

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885582076247712229
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    DOGE update. Starts after the 6:30 mark:


    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886278064012689707
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://x.com/angelwoman501/status/1886121091443138780
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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