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    Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia With Long-Range U.S. Missiles

    With two months left in office, the president for the first time authorized the Ukrainian military to use the system known as ATACMS to help defend its forces in the Kursk region of Russia.
    President Biden has authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia, U.S. officials said.

    The weapons are likely to be initially employed against Russian and North Korean troops in defense of Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region of western Russia, the officials said.

    Mr. Biden’s decision is a major change in U.S. policy. The choice has divided his advisers, and his shift comes two months before President-elect Donald J. Trump takes office, having vowed to limit further support for Ukraine.

    Allowing the Ukrainians to use the long-range missiles, known as the Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, came in response to Russia’s surprise decision to bring North Korean troops into the fight, officials said.
    Article at https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/u...-missiles.html
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    Not surprised.
    The Shadowy Deep State pushed for it.


    Russia’s surprise decision to bring North Korean troops into the fight, officials said.
    Ever since this BS nonsense had been reported there has been ZERO proof or evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Not surprised.
    The Shadowy Deep State pushed for it.



    Ever since this BS nonsense had been reported there has been ZERO proof or evidence.
    Proof or evidence? What are you, some kind of conspiracy nut?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Trump transition team already said they may revert that decision... MAY.. not WILL.

    Gut feeling is that the democrats are rage quitting and want to make it as hard as possible for Trump to make a deal on the Ukraine/Russia conflict.

    Dream scenario by some neocons.. pushing everyone into ww3

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    WWIII Alert: Biden Officially Greenlights Bombing of Russia With Long-Range Missiles By NATO

    WWIII Alert: Biden Officially Greenlights The Bombing of Russia With Long-Range Missiles By NATO — This Is A Transparent Attempt To Escalate The Ukraine War Before Trump Takes Office
    https://www.infowars.com/posts/wwiii...p-takes-office

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    The DeepState and Israel Foolish believe that Russia wont do anything.

    Germany told Russia to Withdraw from Ukraine, for peace.
    How is that Peace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    Trump transition team already said they may revert that decision... MAY.. not WILL.

    Gut feeling is that the democrats are rage quitting and want to make it as hard as possible for Trump to make a deal on the Ukraine/Russia conflict.

    Dream scenario by some neocons.. pushing everyone into ww3
    A dream scenario which will become nightmare for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Proof or evidence? What are you, some kind of conspiracy nut?
    Right? I mean, who said you need evidence? Hasn't the Iraq War taught you anything?

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    "The Patriarch"

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    So what is going on really?

    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia With Long-Range U.S. Missiles
    How is it that the presidency came to hold that power? Is this something that's being done via "Executive Order"? Perhaps the Republicans, who will control the legislative and executive branches, ought to pull back some of that power from the presidency. But I'm not holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    How is it that the presidency came to hold that power? Is this something that's being done via "Executive Order"? Perhaps the Republicans, who will control the legislative and executive branches, ought to pull back some of that power from the presidency. But I'm not holding my breath.
    The President doesn't have that power. The Congress does. Yet the only recourse is an impeachment and removal from office, which will never happen. Check and mate, MIC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So what is going on really?

    Well, ask yourself this question first:

    Do you really think Biden "decided" anything at all?

    And then ask:

    Who, more than anybody else, wants another world war in Europe?
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    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858321645238182189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, ask yourself this question first:

    Do you really think Biden "decided" anything at all?

    And then ask:

    Who, more than anybody else, wants another world war in Europe?
    Macron is a Rothchild Banker what you expected?

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    I suspect Putin will just take it or allow for a very limited response. He is smart enough to know not to escalate it just before Trump gets into office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I suspect Putin will just take it or allow for a very limited response. He is smart enough to know not to escalate it just before Trump gets into office.
    You're probably right.

    That's why this is being pushed so hard: to force Putin to respond in a heavy handed manner.

    Were the situation reversed, how many Russian missiles would we be expected to tolerate dropping us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    The DeepState and Israel Foolish believe that Russia wont do anything.

    Germany told Russia to Withdraw from Ukraine, for peace.
    How is that Peace?
    TOTAL Inversion

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    EVIL IS GOOD.

    True EVIL is a TOTAL INVERSION, not like insane lunatics going rawr in movies.

    This is PURE EVIL. They are now attempting to END ALL LIFE ON EARTH.

    The finger is on the END OF THE WORLD BUTTON.

    My fear is the insane unelected warmongers currently in control of the White House are insane enough to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You're probably right.

    That's why this is being pushed so hard: to force Putin to respond in a heavy handed manner.

    Were the situation reversed, how many Russian missiles would we be expected to tolerate dropping us?
    It's almost like we're the aggressors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The President doesn't have that power. The Congress does. Yet the only recourse is an impeachment and removal from office, which will never happen. Check and mate, MIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I suspect Putin will just take it or allow for a very limited response. He is smart enough to know not to escalate it just before Trump gets into office.
    Well, I do believe this is the American calculus of escalation. They want Putin to attack Europe. But Putin is on to this. He might take the shot here (and not attack Europe), but support the efforts to attack Israel and draw the U.S. into middle eastern war, where we can be more easily weakened. Hurting the Empire by attacking Europe hurts Russia. Hurting the Empire by supporting Arab's hurts U.S.

    I don't think the warmongers care either way. War is coming.

    EDIT: Ultimately, I think the U.S./Israelia axis is willing to sacrifice Europe, and I believe Europe is on to this as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the "betrayal" (or appearance of betrayal, perhaps already planned) of U.S./Israeli is on the agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, ask yourself this question first:

    Do you really think Biden "decided" anything at all?

    And then ask:

    Who, more than anybody else, wants another world war in Europe?
    One has to be extremely cautious getting their news from twitter.

    That is false news.

    The native press in UK and France do NOT say today that either has approved long-range strikes against Russia.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...till-an-option

    https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...siles-12593360
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    Has Iran given Russia permission to strike Ukraine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Has Iran given Russia permission to strike Ukraine?
    Im guessing yes
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    https://x.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1858242971373637784
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    Why wouldn't the over the line Biden admin take some gloves off AFTER they have gone to major, criminal, killing million of souls war w/ Russkies for 4 years?

    Did you expect a honest, peace agreement?
    Last edited by vita3; 11-18-2024 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Has Iran given Russia permission to strike Ukraine?


    Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It's almost like we're the aggressors.

    That's crazy talk.

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    So if Trump calls up Zelinksy and says "You know I'll be installed on January 20th. You do this and I promise you I'll cut off all aid." would that be a violation of the (unconstitutional) Logan Act?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So if Trump calls up Zelinksy and says "You know I'll be installed on January 20th. You do this and I promise you I'll cut off all aid." would that be a violation of the (unconstitutional) Logan Act?
    Yea almost certainly

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