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Thread: With wokeness dying, what will marxists use as their next dishonest tactic?

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    With wokeness dying, what will marxists use as their next dishonest tactic?

    Marxism disguised itself as an economic philosophy. When American workers rejected that, the Marxists abandoned them as the uneducated. This is one of the reasons why they wanted open borders, to get a new underclass.

    To protect the new underclass they went into wokeness. You've seen it everywhere, including on this forum. Basically they can't win an argument so they distract by name calling to avoid a good and needed discussion. With immigration, they called people who weren't racists, "racists" to shut them up. They called peaceful people "neocons" because they had the sense to want a secure border. If you were against chopping off children's genitals, you were "transphobic." If you're against war, you are a "Russian agent." Women against abortion were "misogynists." Conservative black men were the new face of "white supremacy." Etc.

    They did anything to change the subject and put others on the defensive. And it actually worked. Discussion was ended. People were banned from social media. A lot of time good people just didn't want to deal with the insanity of crazy people. It's one of the reason why things are screwed up and absurdities were accepted as truth. People were afraid to speak up because of corporations and woke mobs. We've all seen it, even on this forum and didn't realize the scope of the destruction until now.

    So we are at another crossroads. As they turned on the working class, I see the marxists blaming their defeat and cursing Hispanics, black males, white females, and other groups. People finally see (or at least are willing to speak up about) the hypocrisy.

    So if the marxists have turned on the American worker and now are cursing the formerly protected minority classes, what other deception is up their sleeves? The wicked never rest.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 11-07-2024 at 08:21 PM. Reason: copied text of original OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I'm cautiously optimistic. Musk didn't have to reach out to Ron Paul, but he did. RFk Jr and Tulsi came to Trump and Darth Cheney ran to the Democrats-- I never thought something like that would happen. I would have been happy with going back to the 1980s or 1990s. The death of wokeness/Marxism alone was a win.

    I'm happy Trump got elected, but now is not the time to be a fanboy. Now is the time to demand results.
    Ok, I still don't know what "wokeness" is, I honestly don't pay attention to any of that - I'm strictly by the policy and money guy. But just for purposes of this exercise, are you implying that overnight, just now, all of a sudden, because Trump was "elected", and before he even takes office not until the middle of January, wokeness/Marxism/gays/q-u-eers/sex-change-operations/etc/etc.... SUDDENLY STOPPED???




    But, whatever that [wokeness] is, if it suddenly stopped, wouldn't that lead one to believe that it was just one big psyop, just to get him elected???
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Ok, I still don't know what "wokeness" is, I honestly don't pay attention to any of that - I'm strictly by the policy and money guy. But just for purposes of this exercise, are you implying that overnight, just now, all of a sudden, because Trump was "elected", and before he even takes office not until the middle of January, wokeness/Marxism/gays/q-u-eers/sex-change-operations/etc/etc.... SUDDENLY STOPPED???




    But, whatever that [wokeness] is, if it suddenly stopped, wouldn't that lead one to believe that it was just one big psyop, just to get him elected???
    Quit pretending. You embody it. You use it to distract from debate. I will post a thread about it, because I wonder what you will use next time, now that your tactic is useless.
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    They're most likely going to just double down even harder on wokeness. It might take them a couple more election cycles before they realize they have to drop it.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Quit pretending. You embody it. You use it to distract from debate. I will post a thread about it, because I wonder what you will use next time, now that your tactic is useless.
    I just asked a simple question. You said "The death of wokeness/Marxism", I simply wanted to know how that can be done all of a sudden.

    Btw, if I "embody it", care to give an example? I legitimately don't know what "wokeness" is. As a fiscally conservative anarchist who embraces natural rights, I guess I can be many things, but q-u-eer//Marxist/trans/sex-operation/gay, I can't see myself being the embodiment of any of those things.

    Maybe give me a financial chart or a record of something so that I can understand.
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    I think I see what you mean[?]

    Government created problems require "freedom for me but not for thee". And when they are called out on it, the typical response is: "Don't let the facts hurt my feelings."

    And yet, wokeness is dead overnight
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I think I see what you mean[?]

    Government created problems require "freedom for me but not for thee". And when they are called out on it, the typical response is: "Don't let the facts hurt my feelings."
    What are you talking about? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    What are you talking about? LOL
    lol I don't know, you said you were going to make a thread so that I could figure out what wokeness is?

    Joking aside, I really don't pay attention to all of that social media stuff and what the kids put out today. All I care about are records, charts and financials, and ways to reduce/eliminate the federal government, and even at the state level for that matter.

    Am I way off base with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    What are you talking about? LOL
    This is what I found:

    The African-American English synonym for the General American English word awake. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to be used to refer to a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and reparations for slavery in the United States.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I just asked a simple question. You said "The death of wokeness/Marxism", I simply wanted to know how that can be done all of a sudden.

    Btw, if I "embody it", care to give an example? I legitimately don't know what "wokeness" is. As a fiscally conservative anarchist who embraces natural rights, I guess I can be many things, but q-u-eer//Marxist/trans/sex-operation/gay, I can't see myself being the embodiment of any of those things.

    Maybe give me a financial chart or a record of something so that I can understand.
    Quit playin. You aren't a fiscal conservative anarchist. Here you are posting an article saying we need more immigrants to pay taxes to support government programs. Did you forget what sock puppet you were using?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7212066

    I don't respect you. I don't believe a word you EVER say. I know you are being dishonest right now. I said what I said. I know that you know what I am saying, and I won't say anything more. I wouldn't associate with you in real life, and I am not going to play your game.

    At times like this I turn to the spiritual words of the Rev X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This is what I found:

    This misdirection is exactly what I am talking about and for me to answer would only make me a chump for the game I'm pointing out. You know exactly what I am saying. Go troll someone else. I ain't playing your game.

    At times like this I turn to the spiritual words of the Rev X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    This misdirection is exactly what I am talking about and for me to answer would only make me a chump for the game I'm pointing out. You know exactly what I am saying. Go troll someone else. I ain't playing your game.

    At times like this I turn to the spiritual words of the Rev X.
    Yeah, best we stay clear of each other. I'll do my record/financials thing, you do whatever it is that you do/don't do.

    It's one thing to have a little fun on the board to lighten things up, it's another to purposely instigate trouble/problems when there wasn't any to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Yeah, best we stay clear of each other. I'll do my record/financials thing, you do whatever it is that you do/don't do.

    It's one thing to have a little fun on the board to lighten things up, it's another to purposely instigate trouble/problems when there wasn't any to begin with.
    That's fine. You aren't instigating me. I'm just not playing along with your game. It's exactly what this thread is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Quit playin. You aren't a fiscal conservative anarchist. Here you are posting an article saying we need more immigrants to pay taxes to support government programs. Did you forget what sock puppet you were using?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7212066

    I don't respect you. I don't believe a word you EVER say. I know you are being dishonest right now. I said what I said. I know that you know what I am saying, and I won't say anything more. I wouldn't associate with you in real life, and I am not going to play your game.

    At times like this I turn to the spiritual words of the Rev X.

    LOL I never said a word about "paying taxes to support government programs", you got the wrong guy, buddy LOL

    Perhaps you took issue with the article Stockman wrote,,, go take it up with him. I merely posted it to show some numbers and graphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    LOL I never said a word about "paying taxes to support government programs", you got the wrong guy, buddy LOL

    Perhaps you took issue with the article Stockman wrote,,, go take it up with him. I merely posted it to show some numbers and graphs.
    As I said, I am not playing your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    So if the marxists have turned on the American worker and now are cursing the formerly protected minority classes, what other deception is up their sleeves? The wicked never rest.
    After two days of NPR, MSM, and forum diving, I've found they can't blame themselves. They blame the American people. So to regain power, they'll nominate a white man. Enter Gavin Newsom. The neo-liberals and Bernie Bros will unite to compact a "new deal" for the American people, while distancing themselves from SJWs. And they'll be praying for economic collapse in the meantime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    As I said, I am not playing your game.
    LOL We'll end here, I'm still dying from laughter over here LOL

    To accuse me of saying or promoting "paying taxes to support government programs"????????

    Stop it I'm dying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    LOL We'll end here, I'm still dying from laughter over here LOL

    To accuse me of saying or promoting "paying taxes to support government programs"????????

    Stop it I'm dying!
    LOL. You posted it to back up your position. Lol. You just forgot what account you were posting under. It happens to the best of 'em. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    After two days of NPR, MSM, and forum diving, I've found they can't blame themselves. They blame the American people. So to regain power, they'll nominate a white man. Enter Gavin Newsom. The neo-liberals and Bernie Bros will unite to compact a "new deal" for the American people, while distancing themselves from SJWs. And they'll be praying for economic collapse in the meantime.
    Correct
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    LOL. You posted it to back up your position. Lol. You just forgot what account you were posting under. It happens to the best of 'em. Lol
    So that we don't derail this thread, if you want to discuss it rationally in the other thread, you can go ahead and bump it and we can continue there. Fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    So that we don't derail this thread, if you want to discuss it rationally in the other thread, you can go ahead and bump it and we can continue there. Fair?
    Meh. I spoke my mind. You spoke yours and even if you say anything else, I'm still not going to believe you. So if you wanna talk, talk. I don't care. In the meantime, I'm signing off to read a book on HAM radios and I also don't care if you are into HAMs, but you can talk about that too. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Meh. I spoke my mind. You spoke yours and even if you say anything else, I'm still not going to believe you. So if you wanna talk, talk. I don't care. In the meantime, I'm signing off to read a book on HAM radios and I also don't care if you are into HAMs, but you can talk about that too. lol

    I used to be, but not anymore Nowadays I'm into HAMs as in meat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This is what I found:
    Yeah, that's what it started out as. And then White Women ... (the segment starting at about 3:10)

    My choice of third person pronouns for myself is generally irrelevant. I'm not typically involved in the conversations that use them. It's other people referring to me in the third person, usually from a distance. I'm not a conversational partner in those exchanges. Those people could be referring to me as "That A$$hole" or "That Motherfukker" for all I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Yeah, that's what it started out as. And then White Women ... (the segment starting at about 3:10)

    LOL funny skit LOL

    Ok I think I understand more of what's going on, to me it's still welfare lol A simple term that I understand lol
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    What will Marxists use next?

    Simple...

    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1854720253961327102

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    LOL funny skit LOL

    Ok I think I understand more of what's going on, to me it's still welfare lol A simple term that I understand lol
    It's more than that though. I'm not very good at definitions, so maybe another example is in order. When you go to a gathering of people (social, professional, political, whatever) and it consists of people of diversified backgrounds (ethnic, religious, racial, and on rare occasions, principles) - you have to look around for where you check your coat, or hat, or maybe car keys, because there's probably also a place to check your privilege and you'll have to leave your privilege there. Now this is important - be sure to get your ticket when you check your privilege, because you want to be able to go back and pick up your privilege when you leave the gathering and return to the real world.

    I keep hearing about "checking your privilege", and I'm pretty sure that's the way it works.

    I met this girl
    And she looked like she might have been a privilege check clerk at an ice rink
    Which, in fact, she turned out to be
    And I said: "Oh boy, right again"

    Last edited by Voluntarist; 11-07-2024 at 09:46 PM.
    My choice of third person pronouns for myself is generally irrelevant. I'm not typically involved in the conversations that use them. It's other people referring to me in the third person, usually from a distance. I'm not a conversational partner in those exchanges. Those people could be referring to me as "That A$$hole" or "That Motherfukker" for all I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    It's more than that though. I'm not very good at definitions, so maybe another example is in order. When you go to a gathering of people (social, professional, political, whatever) and it consists of people of diversified backgrounds (ethnic, religious, racial, and on rare occasions, principles) - you have to look around for where you check your coat, or hat, or maybe car keys, because there's probably also a place to check your privilege and you'll have to leave your privilege there. Now this is important - be sure to get your ticket when you check your privilege, because you want to be able to go back and pick up your privilege when you leave the gathering and return to the real world.
    That makes a little better sense. I travel a lot and tune out noise and focus on fun so I never really noticed that before. I'm too "old school" maybe? lol
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