An apology

[Invisible Man]

Ok then, I lose, you're the winner.

Petition the mods to delete a disinformation thread.

I think it would be best to wait until we have the final vote total before making any final claims about what the facts are on that one way or the other.

[Swordsmyth]

Maybe. Or maybe it's just a natural occurance. There is a way to actually check this instead of irresponsibly making accusations off of nothing.

It's not off nothing, and you know it because you edited out all the other indicators when you replied to my other post.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes it does, it sets the precedent that the feds have power over the states in a election.

If you give the feds the power you're going to regret it in the future. Remember when Bush passed the "Patriot Act"? You think it's mostly being used to catch terrorists?

A That's false.
B The feds have long taken power over how the states run elections already.
C The left doesn't need precedents.
D Stolen states helf by fraud will never fix themselves, so the left steals state after state and eventually they have them all.

[jmdrake]

Yeah, they took advantage with millions of fraudulent ballots.

It's not off nothing, and you know it because you edited out all the other indicators when you replied to my other post.

I didn't edit out a damn thing.

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't edit out a damn thing.

I posted this:

That's garbage and you know it.
Only a tiny minority was angry at Trump, and Biden was just as disliked or more, plus he didn't campaign at all.

Biden "won" with the least counties ever, including almost none of the bellwether counties.
He hid in his basement and didn't campaign against a guy filling stadiums who increased his vote count over the last time but somehow got more votes than ever before.

And all the people locking out the pollwatchers, losing track of the chain of custody of the ballots and all the other anomalies totally had nothing to do with the 2 AM discovery of batches of 100% Biden ballots that put him ahead in all the key states.

If your explanation was true Trump should have gotten less votes by enough to lose to Biden, not an impossible 10-20M extra for Biden.

You're lying about this and you know it, the question is why.

You cut it down to this:

That's garbage and you know it.
Only a tiny minority was angry at Trump, and Biden was just as disliked or more, plus he didn't campaign at all.

As anyone can see by going to your post:

1) You're full of shyt.

2) This could actually be checked. I explained to you how. But you don't want to wait for that because that's you M.O. Just go off on wild speculation when it supports your position.

3) The final voting numbers haven't been tallied yet.

Because you were trying to hide this:

Biden "won" with the least counties ever, including almost none of the bellwether counties.
He hid in his basement and didn't campaign against a guy filling stadiums who increased his vote count over the last time but somehow got more votes than ever before.

And all the people locking out the pollwatchers, losing track of the chain of custody of the ballots and all the other anomalies totally had nothing to do with the 2 AM discovery of batches of 100% Biden ballots that put him ahead in all the key states.

If your explanation was true Trump should have gotten less votes by enough to lose to Biden, not an impossible 10-20M extra for Biden.

You're lying about this and you know it, the question is why.

[jmdrake]

I posted this:


You cut it down to this:


As anyone can see by going to your post:




Because you were trying to hide this:

Your word salad doesn't mean shyt. But since you're such a narcisist let's go point by point.

Biden "won" with the least counties ever, including almost none of the bellwether counties.

Reference? (None) Relevance? (None). Have you gone back to all previous elections and going back to the 1700s and looked at this county by county? Nope. And using your theory that Biden won based by a 10 million vote dump, what does that even have to do with the number of counties? (It doesn't). Just a bunch of nonsense you're spewing out unverified for no particular reason.


He hid in his basement and didn't campaign against a guy filling stadiums who increased his vote count over the last time but somehow got more votes than ever before.


And....people were able to vote easier than ever before. You just ignore that like it didn't matter. But it's interesting that Trump managed to increase his vote count during a pandemic when he had trouble filling stadiums.



Of course you will just lie and pretend the half empty stadiums in 2020 didn't happen.


And all the people locking out the pollwatchers, losing track of the chain of custody of the ballots and all the other anomalies totally had nothing to do with the 2 AM discovery of batches of 100% Biden ballots that put him ahead in all the key states.


And I just showed you that MORE PEOPLE VOTED IN THE KEY STATE OF GEORGIA IN 2024 THAN THEY DID IN 2020! What's your explanation for that? You don't have one.


If your explanation was true Trump should have gotten less votes by enough to lose to Biden, not an impossible 10-20M extra for Biden.


What's your explanation for why more people voted in the key state of Georgia, including for the democrat (Kamala Harris) and the republican (Donald Trump) than voted in 2020 if the reason Biden lost in 2020 was because votes were being dumped in for Biden causing an overall increase of votes? So they dumped extra votes in Georgia in 2020 but the vote count went up in 2024?

You're lying about this and you know it, the question is why.

You're the one lying and I just laid out the reasons why.

[Swordsmyth]

Your word salad doesn't mean shyt. But since you're such a narcisist let's go point by point.

Biden "won" with the least counties ever, including almost none of the bellwether counties.

Reference? (None) Relevance? (None). Have you gone back to all previous elections and going back to the 1700s and looked at this county by county? Nope. And using your theory that Biden won based by a 10 million vote dump, what does that even have to do with the number of counties? (It doesn't). Just a bunch of nonsense you're spewing out unverified for no particular reason.

The number of counties shows that Biden didn't win outside of a few deep blue cities where the fraud machine was concentrated that manufactured enough "votes" to overturn the will of the rest of their state after waiting for the other counties to report so they knew how many ballots to manufacture for their impossible middle of the night 100% Biden dumps.

He hid in his basement and didn't campaign against a guy filling stadiums who increased his vote count over the last time but somehow got more votes than ever before.

And....people were able to vote easier than ever before. You just ignore that like it didn't matter. But it's interesting that Trump managed to increase his vote count during a pandemic when he had trouble filling stadiums.



Of course you will just lie and pretend the half empty stadiums in 2020 didn't happen.

People were able to cheat easier than ever before, that's the point.
Bidne couldn't get anyone but the press to show up when he did have a rally.
Trump filled stadiums and nearly filled others during the middle of the pandemic panic and increased his vote count over his first election.
Biden did nothing but activate the vote fraud organization he bragged about having in a fit of senility, this time he turned it off to get revenge for being forced out.

And all the people locking out the pollwatchers, losing track of the chain of custody of the ballots and all the other anomalies totally had nothing to do with the 2 AM discovery of batches of 100% Biden ballots that put him ahead in all the key states.

And I just showed you that MORE PEOPLE VOTED IN THE KEY STATE OF GEORGIA IN 2024 THAN THEY DID IN 2020! What's your explanation for that? You don't have one.

Trump turned out enough people there this time to make it too big to rig.
You're the one who has no explanation for any of the anomalies in 2020 and tries to pretend they didn't happen.

If your explanation was true Trump should have gotten less votes by enough to lose to Biden, not an impossible 10-20M extra for Biden.

What's your explanation for why more people voted in the key state of Georgia, including for the democrat (Kamala Harris) and the republican (Donald Trump) than voted in 2020 if the reason Biden lost in 2020 was because votes were being dumped in for Biden causing an overall increase of votes? So they dumped extra votes in Georgia in 2020 but the vote count went up in 2024?

You're lying about this and you know it, the question is why.

You're the one lying and I just laid out the reasons why.

Trump turned out enough people there this time to make it too big to rig.
What you are showing is that in Georgia they still tried to rig it and failed.

[Anti Federalist]

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1856001875864093069

[Swordsmyth]

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1856001875864093069

And they did cheat some amount this time.

[Anti Globalist]

Kamala's currently sitting at 71.7 million and even that's suspicious. How did a woman who ran a 4 month campaign, didn't win a single primary in either 2020 or 2024, polls at less than 1% within her own party, had the most astroturfed voter base, somehow do better than 08 Obama?

[nobody's_hero]

Kamala's currently sitting at 71.7 million and even that's suspicious. How did a woman who ran a 4 month campaign, didn't win a single primary in either 2020 or 2024, polls at less than 1% within her own party, had the most astroturfed voter base, somehow do better than 08 Obama?

I would love to see an audit of her campaign finances. I'm just not sure who should do it.

She spends one billion dollars, 3x the amount Trump does, and ends up in $20 million worth of debt at the end of the race.

I mean, WTF did she spend all the money on? Endorsements? Rent-a-rally-crowds? Ballot harvesters?

I don't really feel like we witnessed a $1 billion campaign. It was just as pathetic as Biden's in 2020 if not more so.

[Swordsmyth]

Rasmussen Polling Says Evidence Shows Dems Tried To Steal the election

https://rumble.com/v5ob5iw-rasmussen...-election.html

[susano]

2012
65,915,795 Obama
60,933,504 Romney

2016
65,853,514 Clinton
62,984,828 Trump

2020
81,283,501 Biden
74,223,975 Trump

2024 (so far)
75,563,011 Trump
72,412,421 Harris

Dem votes '08-'24
69,498,516
65,915,795
65,853,514
81,283,501
72,412,421

Rep votes '08-'24
59,948,323
60,933,504
62,984,828
74,223,975
75,563,011

[susano]

Rasmussen Polling Says Evidence Shows Dems Tried To Steal the election

https://rumble.com/v5ob5iw-rasmussen...-election.html

Wow. Looks familiar.

[Swordsmyth]

And the vast majority of those they actually did mail out were used for fraud too.

[TheTexan]

And the vast majority of those they actually did mail out were used for fraud too.

And the whole system is designed so that its impossible to prove they were used for fraud. But given the intentional lack of controls against fraud, it's pretty obvious that fraud would occur. But we can't prove exactly how many so people are just like haha you can't prove it so therefore it didn't happen.

Of course it happened. And any reasonable person would suspect, it happened to a significant degree.

[DamianTV]

And the vast majority of those they actually did mail out were used for fraud too.

Guns and Money have serial numbers. Yet it they want to PROHIBIT serial numbers for MAIL IN BALLOTS. Evidence of INTENT TO COMMIT FRAUD.

[Invisible Man]

And the vast majority of those they actually did mail out were used for fraud too.

Do you actually believe the claim in that meme is true?

[jmdrake]

Do you actually believe the claim in that meme is true?

Of course he does. He never fact checks anything that supports his position.

https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN28B5NM/

[Swordsmyth]

Of course he does. He never fact checks anything that supports his position.

https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN28B5NM/

Internet sleuth reveals over 23,000 Pennsylvania ballots were filled out and returned – even before being mailed out

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-...e-mailing.html

[jmdrake]

Internet sleuth reveals over 23,000 Pennsylvania ballots were filled out and returned – even before being mailed out

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-...e-mailing.html

And....that's the next thing you do. When you get fact checked, rather than acknowleding the fact check, you move on to the next "fact' and sometimes those facts can't be verified. I went to the link in the "Natural News" article which brought me to this link with an embedded TikTok video. So I actually went to the PA.gov website referenced in the TikTok video, downloaded the data set (445 megabytes), did the analysis myself and come up with 7,781 mail in ballots that had the same "Ballot Mailed Date" and "Ballot Return Date" and found a whopping 9 mail in ballots that had an earlier "Ballot Mailed Date" than "Ballot Return Date."

https://ibb.co/9npw1LK
https://ibb.co/mtKJjhS

Here is the link for yourself so you can download it for yourself.

https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effic...mcba-yywm/data

The TikTok video referenced a "web archive" link and I tried to go there first and while I could see some of the data, the "Export" button doesn't work from the web archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201108...wm/data#Export

So...there you go. Another "source" from you that can't actually be verified. I'm sure you'll argue that someone went back and cleaned up the PA data, but since it's impossible to download the data from the web archive there's no way to verify that.

To put all of this into context, Biden "won" Pennsylvania by 80,555 votes. Going by your unverified TikTok video the 23,000 votes aren't enough to sway the election. But the 9 to at most 7,781 ballots from an actual analysis that can be verified is nowhere even close to 80,555 votes. Yes there were anomalies in 2020. There always are. Yes there likely was cheating. There always is. But was there enough to swing a single state? So far that hasn't been proven. With all of the billions of dollars that Donald Trump and Elon Musk and others have to throw at thisi problem, they haven't come up with a solution (proof the election was stolen). Trump just makes the blanket claim and leaves it up to "internet sleuths" to keep the conspiracy going without ever putting forward the evidence himself even to his allies like Tucker Carlson. Sydney Powell refused to bring forward the "Kraken." Well when Trump went on Tucker Carlson this election cycle and later Joe Rogan he could have brought forward this so called "evidence" if it was actually verifiable (which it isn't). Why doesn't he do that? (Rhetorical question).

[Swordsmyth]

And....that's the next thing you do. When you get fact checked, rather than acknowleding the fact check, you move on to the next "fact' and sometimes those facts can't be verified. I went to the link in the "Natural News" article which brought me to this link with an embedded TikTok video. So I actually went to the PA.gov website referenced in the TikTok video, downloaded the data set (445 megabytes), did the analysis myself and come up with 7,781 mail in ballots that had the same "Ballot Mailed Date" and "Ballot Return Date" and found a whopping 9 mail in ballots that had an earlier "Ballot Mailed Date" than "Ballot Return Date."

https://ibb.co/9npw1LK
https://ibb.co/mtKJjhS

Here is the link for yourself so you can download it for yourself.

https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effic...mcba-yywm/data

The TikTok video referenced a "web archive" link and I tried to go there first and while I could see some of the data, the "Export" button doesn't work from the web archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201108...wm/data#Export

So...there you go. Another "source" from you that can't actually be verified. I'm sure you'll argue that someone went back and cleaned up the PA data, but since it's impossible to download the data from the web archive there's no way to verify that.

To put all of this into context, Biden "won" Pennsylvania by 80,555 votes. Going by your unverified TikTok video the 23,000 votes aren't enough to sway the election. But the 9 to at most 7,781 ballots from an actual analysis that can be verified is nowhere even close to 80,555 votes. Yes there were anomalies in 2020. There always are. Yes there likely was cheating. There always is. But was there enough to swing a single state? So far that hasn't been proven. With all of the billions of dollars that Donald Trump and Elon Musk and others have to throw at thisi problem, they haven't come up with a solution (proof the election was stolen). Trump just makes the blanket claim and leaves it up to "internet sleuths" to keep the conspiracy going without ever putting forward the evidence himself even to his allies like Tucker Carlson. Sydney Powell refused to bring forward the "Kraken." Well when Trump went on Tucker Carlson this election cycle and later Joe Rogan he could have brought forward this so called "evidence" if it was actually verifiable (which it isn't). Why doesn't he do that? (Rhetorical question).

They've been diligently cooking the books for 4 years now to cover things up.
The 23,000 were just the ones they messed up and did impossible things with the dates, and just from part of the data set.
When they got caught they hid the numbers for a period of time.

[jmdrake]

They've been diligently cooking the books for 4 years now to cover things up.
The 23,000 were just the ones they messed up and did impossible things with the dates, and just from part of the data set.
When they got caught they hid the numbers for a period of time.

Ummmm.....THERE IS NO PROOF FOR YOUR FREAKING 23,000 NUMBER! None whatsover. It's made up out of thin air. I gave you the links. You can do the analysis yourself. Or you can just keep spreading a lie someone none of us know put up on TikTok.

[Swordsmyth]

Ummmm.....THERE IS NO PROOF FOR YOUR FREAKING 23,000 NUMBER! None whatsover. It's made up out of thin air. I gave you the links. You can do the analysis yourself. Or you can just keep spreading a lie someone none of us know put up on TikTok.

More than 20,000 absentee ballots in Pennsylvania have impossible return dates and another more than 80,000 have return dates that raise questions, according to a researcher’s analysis of the state’s voter database.
Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out—an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.
The state’s voter records are being scrutinized as President Donald Trump is challenging the results of the presidential election in Pennsylvania and other states where his opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, holds a tight lead. The Trump campaign is alleging that invalid ballots have been counted for Democrats and valid ballots for Republicans were thrown away.
The analysis of the publicly available data was conducted by a data researcher who submitted it first to the Chinese-language edition of The Epoch Times. The researcher, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he consulted about the matter with several USPS field engineers, who said the return dates shown in the database are “impossible.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/pen...-dates-3572942

[jmdrake]

More than 20,000 absentee ballots in Pennsylvania have impossible return dates and another more than 80,000 have return dates that raise questions, according to a researcher’s analysis of the state’s voter database.
Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out—an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.
The state’s voter records are being scrutinized as President Donald Trump is challenging the results of the presidential election in Pennsylvania and other states where his opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, holds a tight lead. The Trump campaign is alleging that invalid ballots have been counted for Democrats and valid ballots for Republicans were thrown away.
The analysis of the publicly available data was conducted by a data researcher who submitted it first to the Chinese-language edition of The Epoch Times. The researcher, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he consulted about the matter with several USPS field engineers, who said the return dates shown in the database are “impossible.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/pen...-dates-3572942

You keep quoting liars who are quoting the same liar. I went back and downloaded the data. Until you download the data for yourself as I did, you will keep searching and repeating lies. It doesn't matter how many websites you find that repeat the same lie. I went back to the ORIGINAL SOURCE and proved it was a lie. I gave you the links. You won't to the analysis yourself because you are either 1) too lazy, 2) too incompetent, or 3) you would rather believe a lie than the truth. I think it's the answer is 3.

[Swordsmyth]

You keep quoting liars who are quoting the same liar. I went back and downloaded the data. Until you download the data for yourself as I did, you will keep searching and repeating lies. It doesn't matter how many websites you find that repeat the same lie. I went back to the ORIGINAL SOURCE and proved it was a lie. I gave you the links. You won't to the analysis yourself because you are either 1) too lazy, 2) too incompetent, or 3) you would rather believe a lie than the truth. I think it's the answer is 3.

You keep quoting liars who have cooked the books for 4 years, and it's a separate source for the Epoch Times.

[Swordsmyth]

In addition to the ballots described above, there were more than 43,000 ballots returned two days after being sent out, which is still remarkably fast, although still possible if the voter quickly delivered the ballot to an election office or a ballot drop box in person. The flagged ballots comprise almost 4 percent of all those issued by the state.

...

[jmdrake]

You keep quoting liars who have cooked the books for 4 years, and it's a separate source for the Epoch Times.

Wrong! It's the same damn source! Go to the link you just posted, download the dataset, do the analysis and post a screenshot like I did.

The link you posted:

https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effic...artm/mcba-yywm

The link I posted:

https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effic...mcba-yywm/data

It's the SAME LINK! Now go download the data from YOUR link, do the analysis, post a screenshot, and you're prove me right...yet again.

[Swordsmyth]

Wrong! It's the same damn source! Go to the link you just posted, download the dataset, do the analysis and post a screenshot like I did.

The link you posted:

https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effic...artm/mcba-yywm

The link I posted:

https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effic...mcba-yywm/data

It's the SAME LINK! Now go download the data from YOUR link, do the analysis, post a screenshot, and you're prove me right...yet again.

The two different sources were two different people who looked at the data before they had 4 years to cook the books.
You just want us to take the embezzler's word and look at his current set of books while ignoring him doing things like locking the poll watchers out during the counting.

[Swordsmyth]

What Binney points out is that according to the Washington Post, 2020 had the highest voter turnout in over a century:



Of course this on its face value implies fraud since no one was excited about voting for Joe Biden, but the WaPo wouldn’t consider going there – not with their far-left extreme bias.

Binney attaches a link to the number of registered voters in the US. We made a copy as of today and added these voters up. When we add up the number of registered voters we obtain 213.8 million registered voters in the US as of this morning.



Using the numbers as of today, which are materially similar to Binney’s, we find a huge issue. If we have 213.8 million registered voters in the US and 66.2% of all voters voted in the 2020 election, that equals 141.5 voters who voted in the 2020 election (Binney shows 140 million which is materially the same).

If President Trump won 74 million votes, then that leaves only 67.5 million votes remaining for Biden. This means 13 million duplicate or made up ballots were created and counted for Biden!

https://wethepeopleconvention.org/ar...es-than-Voters