Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 235

Thread: An apology

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1

    An apology

    I want to apologize about something I was very wrong about.

    I dismissed many of the claims that the 2020 election was rigged, or at least rigged to the extent that many people were saying it was.

    I figured there was the usual "side" hanky panky, a little better organized and carried out, but not 10 millions worth.

    But now, that is appearing exactly what happened in 2020.

    10 million fraudulent ballots were injected into the system, through various means, to totally upset and manipulate the outcome.

    I still find it hard to believe and that it was carried out right before our eyes, but $#@!, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

    So, mea culpa, my apologies to the folks that were telling me what was the glaring truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/USAB4L/status/1854201214235558341
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/JRMajewski/status/1854105483923112343

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-06-2024 at 01:47 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".



  2. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  3. #2
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Why don't you go ask them?

    Let me know what you find out.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why don't you go ask them?

    Let me know what you find out.
    Okay, I'll do that and you go ask the people behind Trump's 5 million fraudulent ballots in 2020 what they did differently in 2024.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Okay, I'll do that and you go ask the people behind Trump's 5 million fraudulent ballots in 2020 what they did differently in 2024.
    Trump ballots were destroyed or "adjudicated" to be Biden votes.
    Thanks for telling us it was 5M.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    You can't cheat as easily when even the Deep State knows Kamala is bad.. bad ... bad.

    More reasons include Covid was organized to take down Trump and allow the steal to easily get through.

    In 2024, even Zukerberg stopped supporting democrats. Musk was behind Biden in 2020. Look today. Twitter is free again from the evil control freaks that the democrats are.

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Okay, I'll do that and you go ask the people behind Trump's 5 million fraudulent ballots in 2020 what they did differently in 2024.
    Trump did not have 5 million fraudulent ballots.

    Trump's at 72,212,596 votes right now, with 58% of CA still to count, which at his current rate will net about 2 million more votes, and then whatever else may come in.

    That gets him to 74 million, +/- a half million either way.

    Which is roughly what he got in 2020, perhaps 500,000 more.

    74,223,975 in 2020

    Biden got 81 million in 2020. Harris is on track to get 70 million or so.

    The nation's population increased from what it was in 2020, and you're saying 10 to 11 million democrat votes just dried up?

    Bull$#@!.

    They "dried up" because they were never "there" to begin with.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-06-2024 at 01:35 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

  9. #8
    The rigging happened in the rules changes in 2020. Rule changes that Democrats have been begging for for decades. Because they know that they get a MUCH higher share of the votes from the liberal rules.

    Some of those rules were pared back, but not all. It'll be curious when the deep analysis is done and we can compare and contrast the totals and check them against the rule changes (drop boxes, unsolicited mail-ins, early voting with no ID checks and masks, etc.)
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire



  10. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The rigging happened in the rules changes in 2020. Rule changes that Democrats have been begging for for decades. Because they know that they get a MUCH higher share of the votes from the liberal rules.

    Some of those rules were pared back, but not all. It'll be curious when the deep analysis is done and we can compare and contrast the totals and check them against the rule changes (drop boxes, unsolicited mail-ins, early voting with no ID checks and masks, etc.)
    I have to figure that's where the bulk of those phantom votes came from, illegitimate mail in "ballots".
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Various talking points were made before the ballots were being counted that most states were expecting “normal” result report times this year because there were millions fewer mail in ballots than in 2020.
    I believe PA’s governor was even quoted saying there were 1.2 million FEWER mail-in ballots in PA this year than 2020. That’s just PA…

    It’s possible “they” (interpret however you want) didn’t or couldn’t pull off the same operation twice. There were dozens of major anomalies reported through 2020’s results, which were documented pretty heavily over the Internet.

    It’s possible there were some improved parameters that were put in place since 2020.

    If you really think 2020 was fully legit and fair, well, that’s par for the course for you.

  13. #11
    Supporting Member
    Phoenix, AZ
    Cleaner44's Avatar


    Blog Entries
    4
    Posts
    9,298
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    The 2020 election being stolen is as certain as building 7 being a controlled demolition.

    That is the past now. I just would like to see thing change in a way that prevent that from ever happening again.

    Elections are the market speaking and we need to have free elections so the marketplace of ideas can correct as quickly as possible.

    Democrats rigged 2020 and now the correction will be bigger.
    Citizen of Arizona
    @cleaner4d4

    I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    The 2020 election being stolen is as certain as building 7 being a controlled demolition.

    That is the past now. I just would like to see thing change in a way that prevent that from ever happening again.

    Elections are the market speaking and we need to have free elections so the marketplace of ideas can correct as quickly as possible.

    Democrats rigged 2020 and now the correction will be bigger.
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.

    I'm going to also state that a good number of democrats probably did not flip for Trump, but rather, simply stayed home.

    As the leftists are re-examining 'what went wrong', I will urge us not to gloat.

    Sure, if it's the media talking heads, the pay-to-play pollsters, the establishment frauds . . . rub it in their faces—hold up the burning ashes of their credibility for all the world to see.

    But for a liberal on the verge of losing faith in what they currently believe, don't antagonize. We need that link to break. They cannot be reached unless that first step of disillusionment happens, and it must be theirs to experience.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 11-06-2024 at 01:49 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  15. #13
    Supporting Member
    Phoenix, AZ
    Cleaner44's Avatar


    Blog Entries
    4
    Posts
    9,298
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.

    I'm going to also state that a good number of democrats probably did not flip for Trump, but rather, simply stayed home.

    As the leftists are re-examining 'what went wrong', I will urge us not to gloat.

    Sure, if it's the media talking heads, the pay-to-play pollsters, the establishment frauds, rub it in their faces—hold up the burning ashes of their credibility for all the world to see.

    But for a liberal on the verge of losing faith in what they currently believe, don't antagonize. We need that link to break. They cannot be reached unless that first step is taken, and it must be theirs to take.
    I agree. Many Democrat voters are good people that are victims of propaganda. I blame the source of the propaganda, not the victims.
    Citizen of Arizona
    @cleaner4d4

    I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.
    ...
    Oh, don't you worry. The pardons will flow like wine before the fall of Rome.


    https://x.com/USAB4L/status/1854203252688228775
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.

    I'm going to also state that a good number of democrats probably did not flip for Trump, but rather, simply stayed home.

    As the leftists are re-examining 'what went wrong', I will urge us not to gloat.

    Sure, if it's the media talking heads, the pay-to-play pollsters, the establishment frauds . . . rub it in their faces—hold up the burning ashes of their credibility for all the world to see.

    But for a liberal on the verge of losing faith in what they currently believe, don't antagonize. We need that link to break. They cannot be reached unless that first step of disillusionment happens, and it must be theirs to experience.
    To truly put it in the past RICO prosecutions need to take place.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  18. #16
    Jake Tapper CNN

    CNN anchor Jake Tapper is going viral for his stunned reaction early Wednesday when told that Vice President Kamala Harris had failed to outperform President Biden’s 2020 results in a single state.

    Tapper asked CNN chief national correspondent John King to pull up a graphic showing in which states Harris had gotten at least 3% more votes than Biden had in the last election — just to be presented with a gray map reflecting her failure even in that.

    “Holy smokes!” Tapper gasped. “Literally nothing?”

    “Literally nothing,” King confirmed.
    The slide, which would have lit up states where Harris outperformed Biden by 3% or more, was instead completely gray.

    “Literally not one county?” Tapper asked again, still sounding shocked in the footage.

    CNN believing their own propaganda and then being surprised in real time, classic,



    The degree of just how massive the steal was in 2020 is now very evident, let this be catalyst for permeant change in how America counts it's votes, Trump can rally the cry and push this, never again. A 3 term President with one term stolen from him, historic.
    Et cognoscetis veritatem et veritas liberabit vos



  19. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    Jake Tapper CNN

    CNN anchor Jake Tapper is going viral for his stunned reaction early Wednesday when told that Vice President Kamala Harris had failed to outperform President Biden’s 2020 results in a single state.

    Tapper asked CNN chief national correspondent John King to pull up a graphic showing in which states Harris had gotten at least 3% more votes than Biden had in the last election — just to be presented with a gray map reflecting her failure even in that.

    “Holy smokes!” Tapper gasped. “Literally nothing?”

    “Literally nothing,” King confirmed.
    The slide, which would have lit up states where Harris outperformed Biden by 3% or more, was instead completely gray.

    “Literally not one county?” Tapper asked again, still sounding shocked in the footage.

    CNN believing their own propaganda and then being surprised in real time, classic,



    The degree of just how massive the steal was in 2020 is now very evident, let this be catalyst for permeant change in how America counts it's votes, Trump can rally the cry and push this, never again. A 3 term President with one term stolen from him, historic.

    Well, in her defense, it's tough to outperform 15 million fake votes.

    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Well, in her defense, it's tough to outperform 15 million fake votes.

    I hope this wakes some people up, a political "Red Pill"
    Et cognoscetis veritatem et veritas liberabit vos

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    CNN anchor Jake Tapper is going viral for his stunned reaction early Wednesday when told that Vice President Kamala Harris had failed to outperform President Biden’s 2020 results in a single state.

    Tapper asked CNN chief national correspondent John King to pull up a graphic showing in which states Harris had gotten at least 3% more votes than Biden had in the last election — just to be presented with a gray map reflecting her failure even in that.

    “Holy smokes!” Tapper gasped. “Literally nothing?”

    “Literally nothing,” King confirmed.
    The slide, which would have lit up states where Harris outperformed Biden by 3% or more, was instead completely gray.
    What's the 3% all about? Inflation? How much of the board lights up if she simply does better than Biden? Maybe it's not much better, but "doing better" means anything above what Biden received, not anything above 3% more than Biden received.
    My choice of third person pronouns for myself is generally irrelevant. I'm not typically involved in the conversations that use them. It's other people referring to me in the third person, usually from a distance. I'm not a conversational partner in those exchanges. Those people could be referring to me as "That A$$hole" or "That Motherfukker" for all I know.

  23. #20
    No.

    No mercy.

    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1854253196790710321

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    "Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..." Jean Raspail "Camp of the Saints".

  24. #21
    The same point applies to the millions of additional votes Trump received in 2020 compared to 2024 and 2016, and compared to every candidate in every previous election.

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    The same point applies to the millions of additional votes Trump received in 2020 compared to 2024 and 2016, and compared to every candidate in every previous election.
    I agree, although I tend to think mail in ballots should not be used. It seems way to easy to cheat compared to having to vote in person. How would you catch someone mailing in a bunch of fake ballots?

    Also I think if there's fraud it should be handled at the state level, not the federal level. Otherwise you're basically federalizing the election.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I agree, although I tend to think mail in ballots should not be used. It seems way to easy to cheat compared to having to vote in person. How would you catch someone mailing in a bunch of fake ballots?

    Also I think if there's fraud it should be handled at the state level, not the federal level. Otherwise you're basically federalizing the election.
    Mail in needs to go.

    But do you really think the frauds will put a stop to their own fraud in the states they have stolen? Really?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Mail in needs to go.
    I don't think it needs to go. We've had absentee mail-in ballots for decades. But you used to have to make a special effort to request an absentee ballot and provide a documented, valid reason by a certain date.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire



  28. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I don't think it needs to go. We've had absentee mail-in ballots for decades. But you used to have to make a special effort to request an absentee ballot and provide a documented, valid reason by a certain date.
    Yeah, that makes the most sense. As long as it's not on an industrial scale like in 2020 it should be ok.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Mail in needs to go.

    But do you really think the frauds will put a stop to their own fraud in the states they have stolen? Really?
    Don't you agree it's better than the feds doing it?

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Don't you agree it's better than the feds doing it?
    Not when it won't get done.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  32. #28
    At minimum, they need to push for voter ID.

    The Red states should have implemented after 2020.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    At minimum, they need to push for voter ID.

    The Red states should have implemented after 2020.

    The WEF and U.N. are actually counting on that.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...17#post7263517
    ____________


    Mises Institute

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    The WEF and U.N. are actually counting on that.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...17#post7263517
    LOL

    You really have no shame about supporting the leftist tyrants and their fraud.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast


Similar Threads

  1. A Veteran's Apology.
    By Icymudpuppy in forum U.S. Constitution
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 02-05-2013, 08:00 AM
  2. Replies: 28
    Last Post: 01-24-2012, 08:12 PM
  3. Fox's Apology
    By ShaneEnochs in forum Ron Paul Forum
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 01-10-2012, 10:17 AM
  4. Petition for Apology
    By iznourbaby in forum Reagan Library Debate
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 01-31-2008, 04:11 PM
  5. An apology...
    By dreicher in forum Bad Media Reporting on Ron Paul
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-10-2008, 10:59 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •