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    An apology

    I want to apologize about something I was very wrong about.

    I dismissed many of the claims that the 2020 election was rigged, or at least rigged to the extent that many people were saying it was.

    I figured there was the usual "side" hanky panky, a little better organized and carried out, but not 10 millions worth.

    But now, that is appearing exactly what happened in 2020.

    10 million fraudulent ballots were injected into the system, through various means, to totally upset and manipulate the outcome.

    I still find it hard to believe and that it was carried out right before our eyes, but $#@!, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

    So, mea culpa, my apologies to the folks that were telling me what was the glaring truth.

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    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Why don't you go ask them?

    Let me know what you find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why don't you go ask them?

    Let me know what you find out.
    Okay, I'll do that and you go ask the people behind Trump's 5 million fraudulent ballots in 2020 what they did differently in 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    You can't cheat as easily when even the Deep State knows Kamala is bad.. bad ... bad.

    More reasons include Covid was organized to take down Trump and allow the steal to easily get through.

    In 2024, even Zukerberg stopped supporting democrats. Musk was behind Biden in 2020. Look today. Twitter is free again from the evil control freaks that the democrats are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
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    Okay, I'll do that and you go ask the people behind Trump's 5 million fraudulent ballots in 2020 what they did differently in 2024.
    Trump did not have 5 million fraudulent ballots.

    Trump's at 72,212,596 votes right now, with 58% of CA still to count, which at his current rate will net about 2 million more votes, and then whatever else may come in.

    That gets him to 74 million, +/- a half million either way.

    Which is roughly what he got in 2020, perhaps 500,000 more.

    74,223,975 in 2020

    Biden got 81 million in 2020. Harris is on track to get 70 million or so.

    The nation's population increased from what it was in 2020, and you're saying 10 to 11 million democrat votes just dried up?

    Bull$#@!.

    They "dried up" because they were never "there" to begin with.
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    The rigging happened in the rules changes in 2020. Rule changes that Democrats have been begging for for decades. Because they know that they get a MUCH higher share of the votes from the liberal rules.

    Some of those rules were pared back, but not all. It'll be curious when the deep analysis is done and we can compare and contrast the totals and check them against the rule changes (drop boxes, unsolicited mail-ins, early voting with no ID checks and masks, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Various talking points were made before the ballots were being counted that most states were expecting “normal” result report times this year because there were millions fewer mail in ballots than in 2020.
    I believe PA’s governor was even quoted saying there were 1.2 million FEWER mail-in ballots in PA this year than 2020. That’s just PA…

    It’s possible “they” (interpret however you want) didn’t or couldn’t pull off the same operation twice. There were dozens of major anomalies reported through 2020’s results, which were documented pretty heavily over the Internet.

    It’s possible there were some improved parameters that were put in place since 2020.

    If you really think 2020 was fully legit and fair, well, that’s par for the course for you.



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    The 2020 election being stolen is as certain as building 7 being a controlled demolition.

    That is the past now. I just would like to see thing change in a way that prevent that from ever happening again.

    Elections are the market speaking and we need to have free elections so the marketplace of ideas can correct as quickly as possible.

    Democrats rigged 2020 and now the correction will be bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The rigging happened in the rules changes in 2020. Rule changes that Democrats have been begging for for decades. Because they know that they get a MUCH higher share of the votes from the liberal rules.

    Some of those rules were pared back, but not all. It'll be curious when the deep analysis is done and we can compare and contrast the totals and check them against the rule changes (drop boxes, unsolicited mail-ins, early voting with no ID checks and masks, etc.)
    I have to figure that's where the bulk of those phantom votes came from, illegitimate mail in "ballots".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    The 2020 election being stolen is as certain as building 7 being a controlled demolition.

    That is the past now. I just would like to see thing change in a way that prevent that from ever happening again.

    Elections are the market speaking and we need to have free elections so the marketplace of ideas can correct as quickly as possible.

    Democrats rigged 2020 and now the correction will be bigger.
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.

    I'm going to also state that a good number of democrats probably did not flip for Trump, but rather, simply stayed home.

    As the leftists are re-examining 'what went wrong', I will urge us not to gloat.

    Sure, if it's the media talking heads, the pay-to-play pollsters, the establishment frauds . . . rub it in their faces—hold up the burning ashes of their credibility for all the world to see.

    But for a liberal on the verge of losing faith in what they currently believe, don't antagonize. We need that link to break. They cannot be reached unless that first step of disillusionment happens, and it must be theirs to experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.

    I'm going to also state that a good number of democrats probably did not flip for Trump, but rather, simply stayed home.

    As the leftists are re-examining 'what went wrong', I will urge us not to gloat.

    Sure, if it's the media talking heads, the pay-to-play pollsters, the establishment frauds, rub it in their faces—hold up the burning ashes of their credibility for all the world to see.

    But for a liberal on the verge of losing faith in what they currently believe, don't antagonize. We need that link to break. They cannot be reached unless that first step is taken, and it must be theirs to take.
    I agree. Many Democrat voters are good people that are victims of propaganda. I blame the source of the propaganda, not the victims.
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    Jake Tapper CNN

    CNN anchor Jake Tapper is going viral for his stunned reaction early Wednesday when told that Vice President Kamala Harris had failed to outperform President Biden’s 2020 results in a single state.

    Tapper asked CNN chief national correspondent John King to pull up a graphic showing in which states Harris had gotten at least 3% more votes than Biden had in the last election — just to be presented with a gray map reflecting her failure even in that.

    “Holy smokes!” Tapper gasped. “Literally nothing?”

    “Literally nothing,” King confirmed.
    The slide, which would have lit up states where Harris outperformed Biden by 3% or more, was instead completely gray.

    “Literally not one county?” Tapper asked again, still sounding shocked in the footage.

    CNN believing their own propaganda and then being surprised in real time, classic,



    The degree of just how massive the steal was in 2020 is now very evident, let this be catalyst for permeant change in how America counts it's votes, Trump can rally the cry and push this, never again. A 3 term President with one term stolen from him, historic.
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    No.

    No mercy.

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    The same point applies to the millions of additional votes Trump received in 2020 compared to 2024 and 2016, and compared to every candidate in every previous election.

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    At minimum, they need to push for voter ID.

    The Red states should have implemented after 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    At minimum, they need to push for voter ID.

    The Red states should have implemented after 2020.

    The WEF and U.N. are actually counting on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    Jake Tapper CNN

    CNN anchor Jake Tapper is going viral for his stunned reaction early Wednesday when told that Vice President Kamala Harris had failed to outperform President Biden’s 2020 results in a single state.

    Tapper asked CNN chief national correspondent John King to pull up a graphic showing in which states Harris had gotten at least 3% more votes than Biden had in the last election — just to be presented with a gray map reflecting her failure even in that.

    “Holy smokes!” Tapper gasped. “Literally nothing?”

    “Literally nothing,” King confirmed.
    The slide, which would have lit up states where Harris outperformed Biden by 3% or more, was instead completely gray.

    “Literally not one county?” Tapper asked again, still sounding shocked in the footage.

    CNN believing their own propaganda and then being surprised in real time, classic,



    The degree of just how massive the steal was in 2020 is now very evident, let this be catalyst for permeant change in how America counts it's votes, Trump can rally the cry and push this, never again. A 3 term President with one term stolen from him, historic.

    Well, in her defense, it's tough to outperform 15 million fake votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Well, in her defense, it's tough to outperform 15 million fake votes.

    I hope this wakes some people up, a political "Red Pill"
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    At minimum, they need to push for voter ID.

    The Red states should have implemented after 2020.
    Red states already do have voter ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    The same point applies to the millions of additional votes Trump received in 2020 compared to 2024 and 2016, and compared to every candidate in every previous election.
    I agree, although I tend to think mail in ballots should not be used. It seems way to easy to cheat compared to having to vote in person. How would you catch someone mailing in a bunch of fake ballots?

    Also I think if there's fraud it should be handled at the state level, not the federal level. Otherwise you're basically federalizing the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    At minimum, they need to push for voter ID.

    The Red states should have implemented after 2020.
    I agree but be careful. The "push" for voter id should come at the state level, not the federal level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    To truly 'put it in the past' as far as 2020 goes, pardons should be issued.
    ...
    Oh, don't you worry. The pardons will flow like wine before the fall of Rome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I want to apologize about something I was very wrong about.

    I dismissed many of the claims that the 2020 election was rigged, or at least rigged to the extent that many people were saying it was.

    I figured there was the usual "side" hanky panky, a little better organized and carried out, but not 10 millions worth.

    But now, that is appearing exactly what happened in 2020.

    10 million fraudulent ballots were injected into the system, through various means, to totally upset and manipulate the outcome.

    I still find it hard to believe and that it was carried out right before our eyes, but $#@!, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

    So, mea culpa, my apologies to the folks that were telling me what was the glaring truth.


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    This thread matches the first thing I thought about when I looked at the popular vote total.

    The 2020 election was fraudulent, and it is even more obvious now than it was in the years leading up to this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I want to apologize about something I was very wrong about.

    I dismissed many of the claims that the 2020 election was rigged, or at least rigged to the extent that many people were saying it was.

    I figured there was the usual "side" hanky panky, a little better organized and carried out, but not 10 millions worth.

    But now, that is appearing exactly what happened in 2020.

    10 million fraudulent ballots were injected into the system, through various means, to totally upset and manipulate the outcome.

    I still find it hard to believe and that it was carried out right before our eyes, but $#@!, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

    So, mea culpa, my apologies to the folks that were telling me what was the glaring truth.
    Well, shame on you!

    I hope you've learned your lesson.

    But ... I suppose it'll be alright ...

    ... just as long as you don't let it happen again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BSWPaulsen View Post
    This thread matches the first thing I thought about when I looked at the popular vote total.

    The 2020 election was fraudulent, and it is even more obvious now than it was in the years leading up to this election.
    Everybody knew but like every other inside job, they try to prevent any discussion on the topic.
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    Really stupid question...

    This time we had RECORD turn out.

    2020 we did not?

    I dont have a specific number but how is it that we had 10 MILLION more voters in 2020 than we did when we had our RECORD TURN OUT?

    Winning this election by a landslide with record turn out now in and of itself is evidence that the 2020 election WAS RIGGED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I want to apologize about something I was very wrong about.

    I dismissed many of the claims that the 2020 election was rigged, or at least rigged to the extent that many people were saying it was.

    I figured there was the usual "side" hanky panky, a little better organized and carried out, but not 10 millions worth.

    But now, that is appearing exactly what happened in 2020.

    10 million fraudulent ballots were injected into the system, through various means, to totally upset and manipulate the outcome.

    I still find it hard to believe and that it was carried out right before our eyes, but $#@!, there is no other conclusion to be reached.

    So, mea culpa, my apologies to the folks that were telling me what was the glaring truth.
    It's hard to say how many were fraudulent, but it was the injecting of fraudulent ballots in key swing state metro areas that made the difference. It's a simple strategy, known to all, even bragged about by some on the left.

    But to continue...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The unstoppable rig machine decided not to rig? They were tired? Took the day off?
    Bingo! The final piece of the puzzle falls into place.

    There have been ideas that I have pondered for years now, and the fact that they didn't go to the trouble of rigging this election crystalized them.

    "They took the day off" is accurate. The con-job was over. This was the grand finale of an intentional 8 year plot.

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    You can't cheat as easily when even the Deep State knows Kamala is bad.. bad ... bad.
    ...
    Why yes, Kamala is bad. They knew it. She was intended to lose.

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    In 2024, even Zukerberg stopped supporting democrats. Musk was behind Biden in 2020. Look today. Twitter is free again from the evil control freaks that the democrats are.
    Yes, very interesting how Zuckerberg ceased his efforts.


    And now, the unified hypotheses of the biggest con in history:

    TPTB, mainly of the leftist, global, kleptocratic, plutocracy type, were shocked by the first election of Trump. What would he do? He threatened to jail Hillary. Would he do the same with others? How far down the rabbit hole would Trump go? What about Epstein?

    So the plan was hatched. Hinder and distract Trump as much as possible. Use every lever of power available to them. Unleash chaos and anarchy. Unleash lawfare. Unleash censorship.

    Now what to do if the walls were truly closing in? They still don't know what Trump will do. What if Trump gets elected again, and he has nothing to lose by going scorched earth? What to do about Epstein? The answer was likely agreed upon at that time. Implement the symbolic nuclear option. What I will call "The Fall of Rome" plan.

    If America the nation is to bankrupted, ruined and dissolved anyway, it was time to beat everyone to the punch for the riches. A last ditch effort. It was time to loot like there was no tomorrow. Like vampires draining almost all of the blood from their victim, it was time to feed and leave that victim to die. Burn the place down, retreat, relax in luxury, and wait for the next opportunity in the future.

    How to achieve this? There was no better candidate for the job than compromised, corrupted, immoral criminal Joe Biden. He fit the bill perfectly. Fix the primaries. Fix the election. Put Joe in power, and then start the process of draining the treasury before fleeing Rome. Let the money flow to the cronies like wine. Let the wars rage, everyone gets a cut! Spend like there is no tomorrow.

    Good old Joe and family were happy to oblige. Let the looting and destruction begin! The Biden's could wet their beaks as much as they want. Just do the bidding of the western global kleptocratic plutocracy.

    So, the victim is now almost bled dry. Joe has served his purpose. The next election is coming up. The cheating and the manipulation of the general election was audacious last time. It can't be repeated again. It is known and obvious. Who will be the captain of this Titanic Democrat campaign? Should they let Joe do it again? The pending loss to Trump is conceded now. No way to avoid it. So let Joe be the sacrificial lamb. But it's almost too obvious. He is senile and getting worse by the day? How could they pretend to be trying?

    How about fix the primary for Joe, and switch him at the last minute with Kamala? She is an imbecile, and of no use to anyone. As a matter of fact, she is in the way of the future. She is an annoyance to all. If Joe loses a second time, she would be first in line in 2028. Nobody wants that distraction.

    Thus Kamala was inserted with the purpose of losing. There would no master coordinated cheating for her. Good riddance was probably the consensus.

    Now even wealthier than before, and closer to their global central government, TPTB will draw back. They expanded the idea of government power and control, which will be leveraged for the global new world order to come.

    What about Trump's second term? Trump proved in his first term to be just as naďve and brainwashed as the average Fox News viewer. He was clueless about what they were up to, and what he was up against. No reason to believe it will be any different this time, and the same stymie, hinder and distract tactics can be used again to prevent any meaningful prosecutions. If worse comes to worse, there is always the escape of a long run vacation in Europe. That is the worse case scenario.

    The best case scenario? Trump makes some headway reviving the victim. Let him perform a business miracle, while likely keeping the Fed money presses rolling. Bring America back to health, at least enough for the vampires to descend again for another feeding.

    Rome is bankrupted and the barbarians are in control. Time for “champagne wishes and caviar dreams".
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    Great thread. And humble post.
    I for one just never had enough evidence to argue with people about it. I still say I don’t know but it sure looks like shenanigans. I just have a hard time believing one group is so much better at it than the other group…..which is why I’ve remained skeptical

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