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    Lightbulb Why Musk wants Trump to win:

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    So-called lowering of taxes, these giant Conglomerates are still sucking up to government [both sides of it] in favor of protectionist policies. Deregulation is good, lowering taxes is good, but when they start pushing Tariffs, all that does is push small/medium companies out of the way.

    If you want true reform and a true free market, there needs to be a complete separation of BIG all business and government.


    After Six Years of Tariffs, Small-Business Owners Aren't Eager for More


    The Billionaires Club strikes again.
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    He wants to play “a significant role in making government more efficient”?

    No thanks.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    I suppose I’m the only one who sees a serious danger of arising fascism from all this “cooperation” between large corporations and government?

    Carry on. By the time the whole thing comes to a head I’ll probably be too dead to care anyway.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I suppose I’m the only one who sees a serious danger of arising fascism from all this “cooperation” between large corporations and government?
    I didn't pay any attention to Musk for the first month he's been talking about this because my initial reaction was "Yeah ok if you don't know the only thing government has ever been efficient at is ending human life, I really don't want you near such an effort".
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Well i dont like Trump on some issues but if Harris wins, that means 4 years of Harris/Biden 2.0 will be likely worse for free speech if not the left will push heavily to regulate it.


    Not saying the right is any better.

    Look at how Harris/Walz threaten Musk that they will work with the Britain to force advertising companies to stop working Elon Musk X.


    Harris will work hard to make sure the Mainstream News Media stays relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    I didn't pay any attention to Musk for the first month he's been talking about this because my initial reaction was "Yeah ok if you don't know the only thing government has ever been efficient at is ending human life, I really don't want you near such an effort".
    LOL yeah I had that same thought. And there is serious risk of him becoming an technocrat.

    While Trump and Musk can cut quite a bit at the Executive Branch, they have to get Congress to go along with the rest of it, which won't happen. It's hard to do anything with government, which is the way it's designed to be. They can't just wave a magic wand and abolish entire departments (unfortunately)...for better or worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    He wants to play “a significant role in making government more efficient”?

    No thanks.
    He comes from a line of technocracy advocates. His grandfather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I think the FAA making it almost impossible for SpaceX to test launch it's new booster rocket at a time when Boeing's obvious failures have astronauts trapped the space station waiting for a SpaceX rescue.

    See:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ghlight=SpaceX
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Dude is worried about the white birth rate. Dudes problem with trans people is the sterilization of white kids. Like, trans-people have kids, and if they don't choose to that's not actually a crime against their parents.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

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    The outcome is questionable but I like the menu. I think it the most hopeful, realistic, rhetoric for real change that I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. It is not just a theory or one person, there is a coalition of people with ideologies that seem to be on the same page.

    Only time will tell. I am more hopeful today than ever before.

    Let's not forget that a huge portion of society is excited about this. This is not some fringe candidate. If they wanted to cut waste, and make positive change they could.

    Let's not forget that Trump was always in the news. The publicity and or statements would bring the issues into the daylight. The left hate him and many like him. The left cannot help themselves and will continue every attempt to make him look bad but that actually draws more attention to what is actually going on.

    Positive change has never been more possible. If you don't get on this ship and can only find skepticism and fault, then you don't wan't change all you want to do is complain.

    There is plenty of time to complain in the future. One thing is for sure is the current path is not sustainable.

    God Bless America!
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    https://rumble.com/embed/v5gatzo/?pub=4



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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post

    He said it right there and it couldn't be more clear:

    CEO's and Big Tech = Technocratic Society

    What happened to "For the People By the People" and getting "interests" out of politics? Now we are supporting "Big Billionaire Bankers" and "Big Tech Billionaires"?


    It's long, but it's a must listen and packed with information:

    https://rumble.com/v5o2szb-555-how-t...k-goodwin.html
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  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    He wants to play “a significant role in making government more efficient”?

    No thanks.
    Musk fired 80% of twitter employees and it is better than ever.

    Musk wants to fire a significant portion of the government workers to make the ECONOMY more efficient.

    If you don't think it is at least worth giving it a shot, you're on the wrong forum.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Dude is worried about the white birth rate. Dudes problem with trans people is the sterilization of white kids. Like, trans-people have kids, and if they don't choose to that's not actually a crime against their parents.
    So you are pro-sterilizing children?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Musk fired 80% of twitter employees and it is better than ever.

    Musk wants to fire a significant portion of the government workers to make the ECONOMY more efficient.

    If you don't think it is at least worth giving it a shot, you're on the wrong forum.
    I linked to an informative discussion in Post #14. BlackRock and Technocrats no longer need the numbers of people that it once did. What the Bankers and the Technocrats have planned can/will be done with fewer people controlling all of the resources. Instead of counting on "hopium", why don't you give the video a listen so that you can understand their plan and perhaps use that knowledge to push back?
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Musk fired 80% of twitter employees and it is better than ever.

    Musk wants to fire a significant portion of the government workers to make the ECONOMY more efficient.

    If you don't think it is at least worth giving it a shot, you're on the wrong forum.
    Mwhatever.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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