RFK Jr. says Trump asked him to reorganize health agencies

[Cleaner44]

I am looking forward to RFK doing anything he can to make America healthy again. Our population needs it.

[PAF]

I am looking forward to RFK doing anything he can to make America healthy again. Our population needs it.

The only way to do that is to get government completely out of healthcare and eliminate the agencies.

Everything else is just Bait and Switch Repeal and Replace.

[TheTexan]

The only way to do that is to get government completely out of healthcare and eliminate the agencies.

Everything else is just Bait and Switch Repeal and Replace.

What you describe is the best and most reliable way, but it's not the only way.

There are ways to improve the government besides just getting rid of it. The opportunities to do so just tend to be rare and unreliable for all the reasons that you would expect.

Considering that the government is not going to get out of healthcare, and the agencies are not going to be eliminated, we have to make do with what we've got.

And RFK might actually make some meaningful improvements. And he very well may not.

Either way, I'm glad he's at least trying to fix it.

If you want government out of healthcare, there are ways to do that, but those ways require sacrifice -- and none of us are willing to do that.

[Matt4Liberty]

What you describe is the best and most reliable way, but it's not the only way.

There are ways to improve the government besides just getting rid of it. The opportunities to do so just tend to be rare and unreliable for all the reasons that you would expect.

Considering that the government is not going to get out of healthcare, and the agencies are not going to be eliminated, we have to make do with what we've got.

And RFK might actually make some meaningful improvements. And he very well may not.

Either way, I'm glad he's at least trying to fix it.

If you want government out of healthcare, there are ways to do that, but those ways require sacrifice -- and none of us are willing to do that.

Exactly. The lack of ability of conservatives and libertarians to accept small steps in the right direction instead of instant perfection is how we got here. The left in the meantime takes us to leftist authoritarianism one small step at a time.

[PAF]

What you describe is the best and most reliable way, but it's not the only way.

There are ways to improve the government besides just getting rid of it. The opportunities to do so just tend to be rare and unreliable for all the reasons that you would expect.

Considering that the government is not going to get out of healthcare, and the agencies are not going to be eliminated, we have to make do with what we've got.

And RFK might actually make some meaningful improvements. And he very well may not.

Either way, I'm glad he's at least trying to fix it.

If you want government out of healthcare, there are ways to do that, but those ways require sacrifice -- and none of us are willing to do that.

If "republicans" can rally really, really hard to support Tariffs and Federally Funded Militarized LEO with complete Immunity, why can't they rally half as hard to get rid of Government-Has-No-Business-In-Healthcare agencies?

...if Trump wins, every “true patriot”—or at least every true progressive—will be honor-bound to join The Resistance™

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[TheTexan]

If "republicans" can rally really, really hard to support Tariffs and Federally Funded Militarized LEO with complete Immunity, why can't they rally half as hard to get rid of Government-Has-No-Business-In-Healthcare agencies?

The short answer is because 90-99.9% of them are statist $#@!s

[PAF]

The short answer is because 90-99.9% of them are statist $#@!s

FIF @Matt4Liberty :

The left AND the right in the meantime takes us to leftist authoritarianism one small step at a time.

[TheTexan]

How do you guys live with a $#@!ing profanity filter turned on? You guys do know you can turn that off right

[PAF]

How do you guys live with a $#@!ing profanity filter turned on? You guys do know you can turn that off right

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to @TheTexan again.

F&cking filters!

[vita3]

I hope he can make it much better.

no doubt

[PAF]

I hope he can make it much better.

no doubt

lol no offense @vita3 , but that sounds something like "Change and Hope" er, "Hope and Change".... er, however it goes lol

[vita3]

paf you are too negative sometimes

[PAF]

paf you are too negative sometimes

I'm trying to use the Overton Window!

Life is legitimately good, I really have no complaints. Stay *out* of the doctors, blow some bubbles down in Mexico, ride an Injun out West and I'm golden ;-)

[Occam's Banana]

The only way to do that is to get government completely out of healthcare and eliminate the agencies.

What you describe is the best and most reliable way, but it's not the only way.

"Urge immediate abolition as earnestly as we may, it will, alas! be gradual abolition in the end. We have never said that slavery would be overthrown by a single blow; that it ought to be, we shall always contend." -- William Lloyd Garrison

[PAF]

"Urge immediate abolition as earnestly as we may, it will, alas! be gradual abolition in the end. We have never said that slavery would be overthrown by a single blow; that it ought to be, we shall always contend." -- William Lloyd Garrison

That was a good read, thanks Long, but good :-)

“Toward a Strategy for Libertarian Social Change”

[fisharmor]

paf you are too negative sometimes

Sometimes, but not here.
All I see here is a $#@!ing good point.

If "republicans" can rally really, really hard to support Tariffs and Federally Funded Militarized LEO with complete Immunity, why can't they rally half as hard to get rid of Government-Has-No-Business-In-Healthcare agencies?

A long, looooong time ago, a guy at work showed me an email he got explaining how a Nigerian prince was trying to move his fortune into the US and needed assistance doing it.
It was so long ago that nobody had heard of that.
And I could see the guy's look of panicked excitement as he was asking me if I thought he should follow up on it.
He really wanted to believe.

I looked him dead in the eye and said "Come on man, this is obvious bull$#@!."

I could literally watch his heart sink as he snapped out of the dream and realized there were a million ways I was probably right and the only way the email was right was in his hopes.

[TheTexan]

"Urge immediate abolition as earnestly as we may, it will, alas! be gradual abolition in the end. We have never said that slavery would be overthrown by a single blow; that it ought to be, we shall always contend." -- William Lloyd Garrison

Alas, such action, as earnestly as we may so desire to take,

we have naught the cajones, to undertake

If you want government out of healthcare, there are ways to do that, but those ways require sacrifice -- and none of us are willing to do that.

[Occam's Banana]

Alas, such action, as earnestly as we may so desire to take,

we have naught the cajones, to undertake

Sadly so.

That is why it will likely be "gradual abolition in the end" - if it ever even happens at all.

Unless, perchance, we get a Lexington/Concord - or a Fort Sumter? - that no one expected.

(Things happen gradually ... right up until they happen suddenly ...)

[unknown]

RFK Jr running roughshod over the CDC/FDA/NIH may be the highlight of a Trump Presidency.

[unknown]

The only way to do that is to get government completely out of healthcare and eliminate the agencies.

Everything else is just Bait and Switch Repeal and Replace.

True but it would be a legit step in the right direction.

[unknown]

Would almost be like making Ron Paul the head of the Federal Reserve, the Treasury or IRS.

[PAF]

True but it would be a legit step in the right direction.

Complacency/gaining trust in government is not what we need.

Radio Rothbard: What Will You Do When Kamala (or Trump) Wins?

[Swordsmyth]

"Urge immediate abolition as earnestly as we may, it will, alas! be gradual abolition in the end. We have never said that slavery would be overthrown by a single blow; that it ought to be, we shall always contend." -- William Lloyd Garrison

When it was done in a single blow it was a disaster for the very slaves it was supposed to benefit, not to mention the countless men killed on both sides who never owned a slave.

[Swordsmyth]

Complacency/gaining trust in government is not what we need.

Radio Rothbard: What Will You Do When Kamala (or Trump) Wins?

If Trump wins we have a chance to go the right direction fast or slow in the future, if Camela wins it's over for at least a century, and you know it.

[TheCount]

Oh boy, a reorganization.

Maybe they'll also reorganize the fed!

Reorganize our overseas military presence!

Reorganize DHS!

Wooo!

[Occam's Banana]

When it was done in a single blow it was a disaster for the very slaves it was supposed to benefit, not to mention the countless men killed on both sides who never owned a slave.

But it wasn't done "in a single blow". (That was Garrison's point.)

It was done gradually ... and then suddenly.

Abolitionism was a many-decades-old movement when slavery was finally abolished.

(They even managed to do it 30 years earlier in Britain without "countless men killed on both sides".)

[TheCount]

When it was done in a single blow it was a disaster for the very slaves it was supposed to benefit, not to mention the countless men killed on both sides who never owned a slave.

Obviously the correct choice was to continue slavery to avoid inconveniencing anyone.

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

I had this dream last night about someone I know that was providing a cot and a hot plus $20 to people to work for him. At first I thought it was ludicrous. In reality, many people don't have $20 after basic expenses. Basically we are all slaves and the rewards for being a good slave are vanishing.

[Swordsmyth]

Obviously the correct choice was to continue slavery to avoid inconveniencing anyone.

For the good of all involved it should have been phased out.
Children of slaves should have been declared to be born free.
Then some percentage of slaves should have been freed each year with compensation to the owners.
Both the freed slaves and the Southern economy would be able to adjust without all the chaos, crime, death, and destruction.

[vita3]

RFK jr had some health care position in Trumps first Presidency, didn’t amount to much.

Paint me as super interested to see what he can do here.