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    Elon: 'Let's Cut Two TRILLION From The Budget!'

    Elon: 'Let's Cut Two TRILLION From The Budget!'



    At a recent Trump campaign rally, entrepreneur Elon Musk announced that the US budget should be cut by at least two trillion dollars over last year's budget. Ron Paul has some suggestions on where to start. Also today, WaPo owner Jeff Bezos reveals why the paper decided not to endorse anyone for president.

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    Would be nice, but there is no way they can put this into effect without Congress. And Congress will never agree to that because that's how they buy votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Would be nice, but there is no way they can put this into effect without Congress. And Congress will never agree to that because that's how they buy votes.
    And they will still raise protectionist tariffs. That much was promised.
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    If it was 2008 and Ron Paul said he would do it would you believe him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    If it was 2008 and Ron Paul said he would do it would you believe him?
    I'd certainly believe he'd try with all his might. After all, he had two decades in the House trying to cut and/or kill every bloated budget that came his way.

    Trump, meanwhile, had veto power over the budgets and in four years used it exactly once. Musk, meanwhile, isn't running for any elected office, and I haven't even heard what specific unelected office he might or might not be offered.

    So, why do you ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'd certainly believe he'd try with all his might. After all, he had two decades in the House trying to cut and/or kill every bloated budget that came his way.

    Trump, meanwhile, had veto power over the budgets and in four years used it exactly once. Musk, meanwhile, isn't running for any elected office, and I haven't even heard what specific unelected office he might or might not be offered.

    So, why do you ask?
    And you can't count that one time because he was already on his way out.

    Not that Trump is any different than all the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Elon: 'Let's Cut Two TRILLION From The Budget!'

    Trump: "Yeah, we're not doing that"



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    Something tells me two trillion is going to be added to the budget instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Would be nice, but there is no way they can put this into effect without Congress. And Congress will never agree to that because that's how they buy votes.
    Impoundment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    And they will still raise protectionist tariffs. That much was promised.
    Trump will cut spending and replace the income tax with tariffs.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    If it was 2008 and Ron Paul said he would do it would you believe him?
    Yah, but thats Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    That was 12 years ago. So add in inflation and 2 Trillion with a "T" should be doable today.
    Reality is that Ron Paul would have had no more ability to get it thru Congress than Trump.
    Using the same analogy they use on Harris, if he could have done it, why didn't he do it already, he had been in Congress for years already and failed to get support for his concepts from other members of Congress.
    It seems to me that the Trump Movement is much greater in numbers/support than the Ron Paul movement ever was.

    If people want income tax gone, and Education gone, and budget cuts, Trump has the rhetoric and he is campaigning with others that could help effectuate change.

    Whether it happens or not will remain to be seen.

    The point is people believed it was possible when Ron said it.

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    If Elon just fires all the people who spend the money in the budget, then they should end up with the money at the end of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If Elon just fires all the people who spend the money in the budget, then they should end up with the money at the end of the year.
    I tried to mention you yesterday and I don't think it worked.
    I have a question for you. You live in California a Leftist Utopia. There is zero chance for Trump to win CA. Are you going to vote? If so why?

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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    There was a super early video in 2008, which is probably memory holed at this point, where Ron was talking to a mere handful of supporters in NH.
    It was the one time I heard anyone say what the president can do - he can take out his pen and veto bills.

    And I don't know why nobody else has pointed out that the President absolutely can refuse to sign every single thing that lands on his desk.

    'Anything you want me to sign is to be done on MY terms, and if you're not willing to work together to do that, enjoy your weeks of bickering and failing to get a supermajority.'

    The resulting paralysis would be the second best outcome we could hope for.

    There would be a month of pearl clutching and videos of people chaining up the entrances to national parks. But the thing about budget arguments is they always end.
    Eventually both sides realize "hey if this goes on much longer people are going to start to figure out they don't need any of this $#@!" and they both drop their 'principles' and start to collude to keep the scam going.

    A real president would point out that it's a scam at that moment.

    Ron Paul is one of two people who I believe are aware the entire thing is a scam.

    Yes, I would have trusted Ron Paul to do that.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    If it was 2008 and Ron Paul said he would do it would you believe him?
    Would I believe he could succeed? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    There was a super early video in 2008, which is probably memory holed at this point, where Ron was talking to a mere handful of supporters in NH.
    It was the one time I heard anyone say what the president can do - he can take out his pen and veto bills.

    And I don't know why nobody else has pointed out that the President absolutely can refuse to sign every single thing that lands on his desk.

    'Anything you want me to sign is to be done on MY terms, and if you're not willing to work together to do that, enjoy your weeks of bickering and failing to get a supermajority.'

    The resulting paralysis would be the second best outcome we could hope for.

    There would be a month of pearl clutching and videos of people chaining up the entrances to national parks. But the thing about budget arguments is they always end.
    Eventually both sides realize "hey if this goes on much longer people are going to start to figure out they don't need any of this $#@!" and they both drop their 'principles' and start to collude to keep the scam going.

    A real president would point out that it's a scam at that moment.

    Ron Paul is one of two people who I believe are aware the entire thing is a scam.

    Yes, I would have trusted Ron Paul to do that.

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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If Elon just fires all the people who spend the money in the budget, then they should end up with the money at the end of the year.
    Correct , you fire everyone at agencies and lock out buiding
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Would I believe he could succeed? No.
    maybe 16 years ago you might have thought it were possible for him to succeed.
    If Ron thought he could succeed I guess that says something about his awareness of reality.
    I do think that times have changed. Decorum seems to have been evicted from the left and replaced with vitriol.

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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post


    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1852546748956225833
    I cannot believe what I am seeing!
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