[DOGE] What if Elon Musk is put in charge of government efficiency?

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfRpzlRsP9Y

[PAF]

Or we'll "never get to Mars"?

[Occam's Banana]

God save us from "efficient" government!

[Occam's Banana]

"Government efficiency" is an oxymoron.

Unlike private actors, government has little to no incentive to be "efficient", because it suffers little or no serious or significant consequences for being "inefficient" (none, at least, that can't be fobbed off onto someone else - such as tax payers, et al.).

Even if genuinely dedicated reformers manage to somehow reduce wastefulness, etc., it can't and won't last - the system will inevitably revert to form and the status quo ante will reassert itself. (But in the meantime, it would be fun watching a bunch of outraged pundits and parasitic bureaucrats squeal like stuck pigs - so there's that, I guess ...)

[PAF]

"Government efficiency" is an oxymoron.

Unlike private actors, government has little to no incentive to be "efficient", because it suffers little or no serious or significant consequences for being "inefficient" (none, at least, that can't be fobbed off onto someone else - such as tax payers, et al.).

Even if genuinely dedicated reformers manage to somehow reduce wastefulness, etc., it can't and won't last - the system will inevitably revert to form and the status quo ante will reassert itself. (But in the meantime, it would be fun watching a bunch of outraged pundits and parasitic bureaucrats squeal like stuck pigs - so there's that, I guess ...)

... they will create even more inefficient agencies in the attempt to make it more "efficient", while rolling out AI and digital crypto so that no matter where on earth one may be there will be no escape

As long as government is involved there is one thing for absolute certain: it ends up costing everybody more except for the 1% who profit.

[Anti Globalist]

As if the government is capable of being efficient.

[TheTexan]

Or we'll "never get to Mars"?

He has good reason to say that. The Starship test program was slowed down dramatically during the Biden administration compared to the much looser Trump years.

[TheTexan]

"Government efficiency" is an oxymoron.

Unlike private actors, government has little to no incentive to be "efficient", because it suffers little or no serious or significant consequences for being "inefficient" (none, at least, that can't be fobbed off onto someone else - such as tax payers, et al.).

This is why it's so genius to put Elon in charge of government efficiency. Because Elon does have an incentive for the government to be efficient, at least in terms of how it affects his businesses.

Once Elon is doing removing the regulations that affect his business, put someone else in charge that also has stake in the game, for other industries.

As long as the role is limited to removing regulation, vs creating new regulations, seems like it can only be a good thing.

[Occam's Banana]

This is why it's so genius to put Elon in charge of government efficiency. [...]

Given Elon's status as a Randian "Public Enemy Number Two" ('coz Trump is "Public Enemy Number One", don'cha know), it would certainly amp up the volume on the squealing ... (hell, it might even "go to eleven" ...)

(But in the meantime, it would be fun watching a bunch of outraged pundits and parasitic bureaucrats squeal like stuck pigs - so there's that, I guess ...)

... so I'm all for it. It would be worth it for that reason alone. Anything else would just be gravy.

[CaptUSA]

Yeah, I'm all for cutting waste and fraud, but the words "efficient government" scare the hell outta me.

[PAF]

He has good reason to say that. The Starship test program was slowed down dramatically during the Biden administration compared to the much looser Trump years.

TBH, I've always wanted to see a manned mission to Mars before I kick. Doubly more so, how cool would it be to drill through the ice of Europa to see if any lifeforms are under it.

[TheTexan]

TBH, I've always wanted to see a manned mission to Mars before I kick. Doubly more so, how cool would it be to drill through the ice of Europa to see if any lifeforms are under it.

Yea space $#@! is cool. I'm pretty much OK if they want to steal my money for that.

What I'd love to be around to see, but won't barring some kind of scientific miracle, is when human kind gets to the point where it's colonizing the asteroid belt and beyond, it's gonna be a giant leap for freedom. Our ancestors had an ocean they could use to escape tyranny, we will eventually have the entire unexplored universe.

That is, of course, if an authoritarian race of aliens hasn't already colonized all the good spots and we just don't know about it yet.

[TheCount]

The percentage of Musk's businesses which are subsidized by the federal government will increase from 90% to 100%.

[TheTexan]

The percentage of Musk's businesses which are subsidized by the federal government will increase from 90% to 100%.

I wonder if Elon can get them to subsidize any of my businesses, y'know, for "efficiency"

[TheCount]

I wonder if Elon can get them to subsidize any of my businesses, y'know, for "efficiency"

Donate a few million dollars each election and you too can receive the benefits of the patronage system.

[TheTexan]

Donate a few million dollars each election and you too can receive the benefits of the patronage system.

Can I borrow some money

[Invisible Man]

To paraphrase Musk:
“The government strangles us with regulations, and I will help make it do what it does more efficiently.”

[Matt Collins]

Yeah, I'm all for cutting waste and fraud, but the words "efficient government" scare the hell outta me.

Yeah exactly.

[Snowball]

To paraphrase Musk:
“The government strangles us with regulations, and I will help make it do what it does more efficiently.”

Regulations meant to restrain global oligarchs like himself, from stealing the people's sovereignty.

Our Consitution doesn't guarantee or even demand an "efficient" government.

It guarantees and demands a government OTPBTPFTP.

[Invisible Man]

Our Consitution ...
guarantees and demands a government OTPBTPFTP.

It says that it does that. And all regimes make that same claim essentially (e.g. the People's Republic of so-and-so). But none of them really do, and neither does the US Constitution.

[Madison320]

it can't and won't last - the system will inevitably revert to form and the status quo ante will reassert itself.

Exactly. The only way to reduce government is to get rid of entire functions. You're always going to have waste, fraud and abuse. That's a constant we just have to live with.

Of course we're never going to reduce government on our own as long as we can print and borrow. But the printing and borrowing is going to come to an end soon. High to hyper-inflation will end it.

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1850676693465206962

https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1851041631459270785

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1851041631459270785

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1851097005499826363
& https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1851108654235467870

[ClaytonB]

https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1850676693465206962

https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1851041631459270785

@elonmusk replied:





He cut Twitter staff by 80% and it kept working fine. Shoot for 90% cuts this time?

[PAF]

He cut Twitter staff by 80% and it kept working fine. Shoot for 90% cuts this time?

Just make it 95%, or even 98%. With the way technology is advancing and the push for digital money, all that will be needed are algorithms to track and collect no matter where on earth you may go. Skip/manipulate a payment they simply shut off your account.

Unlike a privately run business, if I had a choice between efficient and non-efficient government, I'd opt for non-efficient government every single time.

[TheCount]

he cut Twitter staff by 80% and it kept working fine. Shoot for 90% cuts this time?

Specifically, he cut all the Americans and kept the H-1B workers.

[ClaytonB]

Specifically, he cut all the Americans and kept the H-1B workers.

I have no issues with legal immigrants. I work in tech and most of my coworkers are H-1B or naturalized former H-1Bs.

Here's a shocker for you: a lot of H-1Bs are pro-Trump/Republican due to they immigrated legally and they consider it a slap in the face for other foreigners to just walk over the border and then get "amnesty", aka breaking the law and being rewarded for it. So, who cares if Musk fired a bunch of blue-haired, grande-latte-toting Wokies -- being a citizen and opposing everything that America stands for doesn't make you higher value than an immigrant, it just makes you a traitor. And a lot of H-1Bs understand that basic fact precisely because they're playing by the rules...

[ClaytonB]

Just make it 95%, or even 98%. With the way technology is advancing and the push for digital money, all that will be needed are algorithms to track and collect no matter where on earth you may go. Skip/manipulate a payment they simply shut off your account.

Unlike a privately run business, if I had a choice between efficient and non-efficient government, I'd opt for non-efficient government every single time.

As they say, you can lead a horse to water...

[PAF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPtoc1cHoBM

Donald Trump and Elon Musk want to make the federal government more efficient. But if the true aim of our political system is not to solve the problems facing Americans but to transfer wealth to the government and the politically-connected, the government is already very efficient.

Read the article here.

[Voluntarist]

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