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    Port Workers (Longshoremen) Strike

    Massive port strike begins across America’s East Coast, threatening shortages and rising prices

    Nearly 50,000 members of the International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA) are on strike Tuesday against the nation’s East and Gulf Coast ports, choking off the flow of many of America’s imports and exports in what could become the country’s most disruptive work stoppage in decades.

    The strike, which began at midnight, will stop the flow of a wide variety of goods over the docks of almost all cargo ports from Maine to Texas. This includes bananas, European beer, wine and liquor, along with furniture, clothing, household goods and European autos, as well as parts needed to keep US factories operating and American workers in those plants on the job, among many other goods. It could also stop US exports now flowing through those ports, hurting sales for American companies.

    A wide gap remained between the union’s demands and the contract offer from the United States Maritime Alliance, which uses the acronym USMX. The maritime alliance represents the major shipping lines, all of which are foreign owned; as well as terminal operators and port authorities.
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    Depending on the length of the strike, it could result in shortages of consumer and industrial goods, which could then lead to price hikes. It could also mark a setback to the economy, which has shown signs of recovery from pandemic-induced supply chain disruptions that resulted in a spike in inflation.
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    More: https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/01/busin...day/index.html
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    https://x.com/TRHLofficial/status/1841137580366069801
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    I heard Biden is going to have a sit down with them and iron out the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I heard Biden is going to have a sit down with them and iron out the issues.


    Meanwhile, the Union boss collects his salary of almost $1 million per year.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    It would be such sweet justice if these lazy commies got fired and replaced with illegal immigrants.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    time to increase minimum wages again.

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    Good.

    Hope they bring the system to a grinding halt.

    Maybe then people will realize that it is better to make and produce here, instead of importing communist slave labor $#@! from China for every little thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    It would be such sweet justice if these lazy commies got fired and replaced with illegal immigrants.
    They will be replaced in due time no matter what. Automation will make many of their jobs obsolete. It was one of the reasons that there was a work slowdown at the LA port, when ships were stacked up in the Pacific.
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    https://x.com/USAB4L/status/1841215805796577561
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 10-01-2024 at 02:37 PM.
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    IMHO, the Union is making this move while the Biden Admin is still in the Whitehouse.

    Who else has made moves because of the weak Biden Admin?

    - Russia.
    - Israel and Netanyahu.
    - Hamas.
    - Iran.
    - China.
    - Taliban.
    - ?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    IMHO, the Union is making this move while the Biden Admin is still in the Whitehouse.

    Who else has made moves because of the weak Biden Admin?

    - Russia.
    - Israel and Netanyahu.
    - Hamas.
    - Iran.
    - China.
    - Taliban.
    - ?
    Can't forget NGOs...and WEF.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    It would be such sweet justice if these lazy commies got fired and replaced with illegal immigrants.
    I agree.

    But, people complain about wages not being high enough [including some on this site] and won't be happy until milk is $29.99/gal.

    More government intervention/restrictions/tariffs/bans on people and product are needed.
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    What is a Longshoremans Association?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    What is a Longshoremans Association?
    ILA union , largest maritime union in US ( dock workers) Luctor would probably refer to them as stevedores.
    Last edited by oyarde; 10-02-2024 at 07:58 AM.
    Do something Danke

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    If I understand it correctly they currently make $39 an hour and are asking for $69 an hour.

    I think they are risking the shipping companies just telling them all to $#@! off and hiring cheaper non-union labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    If I understand it correctly they currently make $39 an hour and are asking for $69 an hour.

    I think they are risking the shipping companies just telling them all to $#@! off and hiring cheaper non-union labor.
    Or just automating it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    Or just automating it.
    There's a lot of 'just automate it' going on here.
    It's a lot more complicated than that.
    I mean even in the IT sphere where there isn't anything physical in the mix, it can still take years to automate one process. And if something doesn't work you can usually just put it aside and not worry about it - it's not a ship that's in the way of everything else happening.

    We're talking about ships that have been built all over the world in various configurations to various standards, that have to interface with docks all over the world. The entire world has figured out the most efficient way to do this and the rest of the world doesn't have US unions to deal with: so far it hasn't resulted in "just automate it". And I think that's a pretty big indicator that if they could have, they would have.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    I've always despised these tuff-talkin union turds.
    They'll be fired and replaced by illegal alien "scabs" (that's what they used to call 'em) and no one will care.
    Then they'll be replaced by automation.
    (This big jerk will still own his yacht though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    ILA union , largest maritime union in US ( dock workers) Luctor would probably refer to them as stevedores.
    In New England we call them "lumpers" or, rather, "lumpahs".
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    I may miss my bananas but Ill be ok , Ive got any cinesium I need
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    Or just automating it.
    Someday probably, but that is far in the future. The job these guys do can't really be done totally by machines yet. Most likely scenario is it goes the way it is on the coean going ships now, most crew members are from low income third world countries. They will just import them to the US and have them unload the ships here.

    The wages the longshoremen get aren't that bad IMO, they are being too greedy.

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    I gots my bottled water and unsweetened vanilla almond milk.

    F yous.

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    Worst strike EVARRR
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Worst strike EVARRR
    Yah, that fizzled fast.

    Calls were made.

    Back in the 70s these guys knew how to strike.

    Why is everything today so fake, phoney and gay?
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-03-2024 at 10:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yah, that fizzled fast.

    Calls were made.

    Back in the 70s these guys knew how to strike.

    Why is everything today so fake, phoney and gay?
    Yet management stood strong.

    Yea, 'murika.

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    Society has their priorities skewed when they rush to buy paper towel and toilet paper when they fear supply disruption.
    I can certainly get by without paper products.



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