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  1. #91

    https://x.com/1791joe/status/1843440779504824507
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  3. #92
    https://x.com/nicolew100/status/1843143756494832002

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  4. #93
    I saw this a couple days ago and didn't know what to make of it because the claim seems so outrageous. My younger brother the spy told me something I'd not considered: Biden has been shipping illegals all over the USA and there is no data available concerning who is where, or how many may be in a region. So when someone claims "thousands are dead" in the hills of TN and NC, it should not be dismissed out of hand.

    Get a load of this and see what you think: https://www.tiktok.com/@lakehouse_ho...83248241986858

    https://www.tiktok.com/@lakehouse_ho...83248241986858
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  5. #94

    Thousands Missing as People Dying in Mud in NC, Gen. Flynn Blasts Limited 82nd Airborne

    Media Ignores Thousands of People Missing, Possibly Still Alive in the Mud in NC. General Flynn Blasts Harris/Biden Withholding Full 82nd Airborne Response
    https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/...-be-unleashed/



    "Buncombe County, North Carolina Sheriff Quentin Miller has told the Daily Express that over 1,000 people have been reported missing in his county alone, making the likely number of missing across the state in the many thousands.

    It is now over eight days since the storm dissipated.

    General Michael Flynn, a former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency nominated by Barack Obama in 2012, said in an interview yesterday:

    “We need a full mobilization right now…if you put me in charge, we would have an entire active duty division, because the active duty division more than the National Guard..the 82nd Airborne has capabilities that can be there in two hours… with large packages of the full compliment of [supplies and equipment.”]

    “We have the full ability in this country to take care of them right now.”

    Thus far the Harris/Biden administration has activated only limited “elements” of the fabled Ft. Bragg based division.... "

    A Facebook page has been established for people to post information about missing loved ones.



    MORE.. https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/...-be-unleashed/

  6. #95
    If it were a beached whale, they would do something.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I saw this a couple days ago and didn't know what to make of it because the claim seems so outrageous. My younger brother the spy told me something I'd not considered: Biden has been shipping illegals all over the USA and there is no data available concerning who is where, or how many may be in a region. So when someone claims "thousands are dead" in the hills of TN and NC, it should not be dismissed out of hand.

    Get a load of this and see what you think: https://www.tiktok.com/@lakehouse_ho...83248241986858

    https://www.tiktok.com/@lakehouse_ho...83248241986858
    I think I am not swayed by hysterics. And her claims about this being a "unique" natural disaster are falling on deaf ears. Yes, people lose their homes in floods, mudslides and landslides, pretty much anywhere. She claims that storms near the ocean are just water coming in and going back out? Yeah, well houses and structures can go out with the water. Has she seen the aftermath of a wildfire? People come home to nothing but a cement foundation. Earthquakes can turn structures into a pile of rubble. Tornados can be devastating, and destroy homes down to the foundation.

    So yes, I believe that homes are destroyed and help is not coming from the government. It is no doubt the worst damage that she has ever seen in her lifetime. But body counts are often exaggerated in the heat of the disaster. We shall see over time where the truth lies.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    So when someone claims "thousands are dead" in the hills of TN and NC, it should not be dismissed out of hand.

    Get a load of this and see what you think:
    I think we have two long time members who live there and another running in and out constantly. We've heard from all three. If the treetops were full of bodies we'd very likely have heard...

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    https://x.com/hartgoat/status/1843158426509258957



    North Carolina National Guard has apologized...


    https://x.com/hartgoat/status/1843852558106013717
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I think I am not swayed by hysterics. And her claims about this being a "unique" natural disaster are falling on deaf ears. Yes, people lose their homes in floods, mudslides and landslides, pretty much anywhere. She claims that storms near the ocean are just water coming in and going back out? Yeah, well houses and structures can go out with the water. Has she seen the aftermath of a wildfire? People come home to nothing but a cement foundation. Earthquakes can turn structures into a pile of rubble. Tornados can be devastating, and destroy homes down to the foundation.

    So yes, I believe that homes are destroyed and help is not coming from the government. It is no doubt the worst damage that she has ever seen in her lifetime. But body counts are often exaggerated in the heat of the disaster. We shall see over time where the truth lies.
    Fair points, all. However, in a world gone mad I tend toward caution in not dismissing out of hand even what seems unlikely because... well, world gone mad. I posted the link in the hopes of getting reasonable opinions on the matter and I've gotten some.

    Now to all the claimed guardsmen and pilots who claim FEMA is sitting on their hands... it does raise the question of who these people might be, if not whom they claim. What's the payoff here? Raising confusion? A toddler's fascination with being able to move his hands? Something intentionally evil?

    World gone mad, indeed.
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  12. #100
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  13. #101
    Hurricanes Are Not Going Away; We Must Double Down on What’s Making Them More Survivable
    https://odysee.com/@mises:1/hurrican...away-we-must:a
    {Mises Media | 09 October 2024}

    Storms like Helene and Milton ought to drive us to recommit to and expand the very institutions that have made natural disasters more survivable for so many, not to abandon them out of some false hope that bad weather can be eliminated.

    Read the Article Here: https://mises.org/mises-wire/hurrica...ore-survivable [see below - OB]





    Hurricanes Are Not Going Away; We Must Double Down on What’s Making Them More Survivable
    https://mises.org/mises-wire/hurrica...ore-survivable
    {Connor O'Keeffe | 09 October 2024}

    Two weeks ago, Hurricane Helene slammed into the Deep South and parts of Appalachia, bringing devastating floods to a region often spared from strong hurricanes. A variety of factors combined to make Helene an especially dangerous storm. First, it formed over the Gulf of Mexico, where waters tend to be warmer than the Atlantic. Second, the globe is currently experiencing a transition to La Niña conditions where unusually cold ocean temperatures in the Pacific bring about all sorts of effects on the weather.

    Specifically, as it relates to hurricanes, La Niñas decrease what’s known as vertical wind shear over the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico. Think of vertical wind shear as the difference in wind between the surface and higher altitudes. The reduced vertical wind shear we’re experiencing right now made it easier for Helene to grow into a large, coherent, vertical structure and for the warm, moist air fueling it to rise undisturbed.

    The third factor that made Helene especially dangerous for areas far inland was the fact that it followed closely behind another rainstorm. While far less dramatic than Helene, the first storm dumped a lot of rain on the region that oversaturated the ground. After Helene made landfall, instead of being drained of energy, the wet surface continued to fuel the storm as it moved up through Georgia into the Appalachian mountains.

    Finally, the Appalachian mountains themselves drove the storm upward to a higher altitude—which cooled the storm quickly. Colder air cannot hold as much water as warmer air, so the result was even more torrential precipitation in the mountainous western Carolina region.

    Together, all these factors combined to bring about a storm that dumped six months’ worth of rain on the towns and villages of western North Carolina in a matter of hours. The buildings, roads, and ground itself were unable to handle it. Flash floods and landslides devastated the region and so far 115 are confirmed dead in North Carolina alone, with many more missing.

    The death toll across all states stands at 235 but is expected to climb. And with another major storm—Hurricane Milton—expected to hit Florida late Wednesday, we may soon see even more communities devastated by extreme weather.

    But because all this destruction is happening with only a few weeks to go before election day, national politicians are clearly focused most on how to use these disasters to benefit politically.

    Besides burdensome visits to affected areas, cheap photo ops pretending to do hands-on work, and staged briefings that are clearly more about optics than substance, the political establishment and its preferred candidate, Kamala Harris, have predictably used the storms to try and terrify us about climate change.

    The main talking point that’s being disseminated through establishment-friendly outlets like The New York Times is that Hurricane Helene’s impact on areas far from the coast demonstrates that none of us can “hide from climate change.” That nowhere in the country is safe unless we finally wake up and give the government more control over energy production.

    The false assumption that is heavily implied in articles like these and most rhetoric you’ll see from politicians acting concerned about the climate is that dangerous weather can and will go away if we only listen to the establishment-approved experts and fall in line.

    A world without dangerous weather is an imaginary ideal. Press even the most ardent climate activists, and they’ll admit as much. The actual claim of most establishment-approved climate scientists is that human activity has generated a marginal increase in the frequency and intensity of extreme weather and that a total elimination of emissions could eventually bring global trends back in line with the natural frequency and intensity of such events.

    But a world with marginally better weather would still have hurricanes, wildfires, heat waves, and all the other maladies we’re so often led to believe only plague us because we burn fossil fuels. So, if we’re serious about tackling the problems caused by dangerous storms and other natural disasters, the solution lies in better adapting to bad weather, not pretending we can eliminate it.

    Fortunately, humans are very good at adapting to bad weather. And, while we have been for most of our history, we have become incredibly good at it in the last two hundred years thanks primarily to one thing—the economic growth that resulted from the Industrial Revolution.

    Economic growth is not just some metric for measuring business activity. It reflects the creation of the wealth that has allowed humans to not only survive but live comfortably in nearly every region on earth. Thanks to a robust energy industry and modern HVAC systems, there are bustling cities all the way from arid deserts to the frigid taiga. Industrial-grade concrete and steel, along with our lack of reliance on window ventilation, also allow us to build durable buildings that make extreme weather much more survivable. Wealthy areas are even able to adapt well to rapid changes in the climate. For instance, New York City—a coastal city—has been adding land mass as the sea level rises.

    This is all to say that the problems often ascribed to climate change are fundamentally problems of poverty.

    Fortunately, we already know what solves poverty: market institutions grounded in a private property norm. Unfortunately, those are the very institutions the so-called environmentalist movement has set its sights on.

    Most people around the world, including many in our own country, do not yet enjoy the safe, comfortable, stable living conditions I laid out above. And that needs to change. But when disasters like Hurricane Helene ravage areas these people live in, that ought to drive us to recommit to the institutions and practices that have made so many of us safer from natural disasters. Not to follow the siren call to reject those institutions out of some false hope that extreme weather will disappear.

  14. #102
    For some of the above theories to be true, there would have to be a couple of key elements.

    1. Do we have the ability to modify the weather.

    2. Would our own government use this tech/weapon against us.





    Last edited by unknown; 10-12-2024 at 08:03 AM.

  15. #103
    THREAD: The economics of "prepping"

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    Why do people prep? The mainstream media demeans preppers as irrational and out of touch with reality. From a scientific point of view, however, prepping is rational, efficient, and very normal.

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  16. #104
    Just thought I'd randomly cross-post this here for no particular reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And it's dead. No elected representatives were required to kill it.

    https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1845891252056621081



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Nah, something's wrong.

    There's too much white male supremacy there...this post must be fake.
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