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    Ukrainians Were The Top Group Of Resettled Refugees Under Trump

    Wow! This was before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Interesting. So I guess Trump should be deported for wanting to allow foreigners to come to the United States.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/immig...92f_story.html

    Ukrainians are now one of the top groups resettled as refugees in the U.S. under Trump administratio

    An attendee signs in at a government-required cultural orientation class in Kent, Wash. Many newly arrived Ukrainians have ended up in Washington state. (Jovelle Tamayo/for The Washington Post)

    By Abigail Hauslohner
    January 30, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. EST
    EVERETT, Wash. — As President Trump has significantly reduced the number of refugees allowed to settle in the country and specifically pushed to keep Muslims out, an unlikely nationality has come to represent a disproportionate share of the refugees who have been entering the United States in recent years: Ukrainians.

    The United States last year resettled more nationals from Ukraine, a country that barely registers in the United Nations’ assessments of the global refu*gee crisis, than it did almost any other nationality. Only people fleeing widespread violence and unrest in Congo and Myanmar outnumber the flow of Ukrainian refugees to the United States.

    There is no indication that Trump’s relationship with Ukraine — which is at the center of his impeachment saga and an alleged quid pro quo involving military aid in exchange for pressure on a domestic political foe — has played a role in the rise in Ukrainian refugees admitted into the United States. But the demographic shift does appear to be the byproduct of Trump administration policies that have restricted access to the U.S. refu*gee program, experts said.

    Trump has repeatedly stated his desire to block Muslim refugees and to prioritize persecuted Christians from around the world. And his administration has successfully implemented a travel ban and expanded vetting scrutiny for the nationals of several predominantly Muslim nationalities — a program that officials said could expand to bar people from additional countries this year.

    The impact is clear: Though Syria, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Myanmar and Somalia drive more than two-thirds of the international refu*gee crisis, now numbering more than 26 million according to the United Nations, Ukrainians in 2019 outnumbered Syrian refu*gee arrivals in the United States 8 to 1. They outnumbered Afghans nearly 4 to 1, Sudanese 12 to 1 and Somalis 19 to 1.

    “This is unprecedented, and it represents a shift away from the refu*gee program’s historical foundation, which is a needs-based, vulnerability-based program,” said Nazanin Ash, vice president of public policy and advocacy for the International Rescue Committee. “There has been a reordering of the nationalities, and not on the basis of need. The administration’s policies lock out many of the most vulnerable refu*gee populations.”

    The 4,451 Ukrainians who arrived in the United States during fiscal 2019 made up 15 percent of the 30,000 total refugees who resettled in the country. In 2016, Ukrainians accounted for just 3 percent.

    Ukraine has been engaged in a simmering conflict with Russia and Russian-backed proxies in a limited part of the country’s eastern region since 2014, but most Ukrainian refugees to the United States are not fleeing violence. Instead, they are coming to the United States for the opportunities it provides, taking advantage of a decades-old program that created a special pathway for nationals of the former Soviet Union.

    Many of the newly arrived Ukrainians have ended up here in Washington state, near Seattle along Puget Sound. The area already is home to one of the largest Ukrainian immigrant communities in the country.

    Ukrainian and Russian-speaking churches, grocery stores, construction companies and real estate agents have proliferated as the refugees have streamed here, sometimes arriving as 20-member extended families all at once. The Ukrainian Association of Washington has seen membership in its youth dance troupe swell to 30, and the University of Washington is offering Ukrainian language courses for its third year in a row.

    Many decry the endemic corruption and lingering Communist-era bureaucracy back home. The poor pay, the shady politicians, the inertia. Their reasons for coming to the United States sound a lot like the reasons most people want to immigrate: Opportunity. But few say they experienced severe oppression or needed to flee death and devastation, as refugees from other countries often do.

    “The Soviet Union has not existed for a long time, but the influence of the Soviet Union is still there, especially when we talk about free will for the people and opportunity for everybody,” explained Valentyna Ostapets, 36, who worked as a prosecutor in Ukraine and arrived in Washington as a refu*gee three years ago.

    Vitaliy Tsinkevich, 51, who left behind a business in Ukraine to move to Washington with his family in 2003, said it plainly: “I wanted a better life for my kids.”

    Now Tsinkevich owns a senior care home for elderly Ukrainians, is active in a Ukrainian church, and runs an outlet called the Diaspora Slavic Center that provides resources to new arrivals. The center is in an office block of other Ukrainian-owned businesses, including a free newspaper that supplies an ever-expanding index of Ukrainian and Russian-language medical assistance, lawyers and other services. A recent article explained the concept of the American Dream.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 09-17-2024 at 07:09 AM.
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    Trump was not purposely letting them in, even the article you quoted admits that:

    "There is no indication that Trump’s relationship with Ukraine — which is at the center of his impeachment saga and an alleged quid pro quo involving military aid in exchange for pressure on a domestic political foe — has played a role in the rise in Ukrainian refugees admitted into the United States. But the demographic shift does appear to be the byproduct of Trump administration policies that have restricted access to the U.S. refu*gee program, experts said."

    Trump couldn't just shut down the entire immigration system and was being fought tooth and nail about the restrictions he was trying to implement:

    "As President Trump has significantly reduced the number of refugees allowed to settle in the country and specifically pushed to keep Muslims out, an unlikely nationality has come to represent a disproportionate share of the refugees who have been entering the United States in recent years: Ukrainians."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump was not purposely letting them in, even the article you quoted admits that:

    "There is no indication that Trump’s relationship with Ukraine — which is at the center of his impeachment saga and an alleged quid pro quo involving military aid in exchange for pressure on a domestic political foe — has played a role in the rise in Ukrainian refugees admitted into the United States. But the demographic shift does appear to be the byproduct of Trump administration policies that have restricted access to the U.S. refu*gee program, experts said."

    Trump couldn't just shut down the entire immigration system and was being fought tooth and nail about the restrictions he was trying to implement:

    "As President Trump has significantly reduced the number of refugees allowed to settle in the country and specifically pushed to keep Muslims out, an unlikely nationality has come to represent a disproportionate share of the refugees who have been entering the United States in recent years: Ukrainians."
    Work on your reading comprehension. Important parts in bold:

    There is no indication that Trump’s relationship with Ukraine — which is at the center of his impeachment saga and an alleged quid pro quo involving military aid in exchange for pressure on a domestic political foe — has played a role in the rise in Ukrainian refugees admitted into the United States. But the demographic shift does appear to be the byproduct of Trump administration policies that have restricted access to the U.S. refu*gee program, experts said.

    Trump has repeatedly stated his desire to block Muslim refugees and to prioritize persecuted Christians from around the world. And his administration has successfully implemented a travel ban and expanded vetting scrutiny for the nationals of several predominantly Muslim nationalities — a program that officials said could expand to bar people from additional countries this year.

    The impact is clear: Though Syria, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Myanmar and Somalia drive more than two-thirds of the international refu*gee crisis, now numbering more than 26 million according to the United Nations, Ukrainians in 2019 outnumbered Syrian refu*gee arrivals in the United States 8 to 1. They outnumbered Afghans nearly 4 to 1, Sudanese 12 to 1 and Somalis 19 to 1.


    “This is unprecedented, and it represents a shift away from the refu*gee program’s historical foundation, which is a needs-based, vulnerability-based program,” said Nazanin Ash, vice president of public policy and advocacy for the International Rescue Committee. “There has been a reordering of the nationalities, and not on the basis of need. The administration’s policies lock out many of the most vulnerable refu*gee populations.”

    The 4,451 Ukrainians who arrived in the United States during fiscal 2019 made up 15 percent of the 30,000 total refugees who resettled in the country. In 2016, Ukrainians accounted for just 3 percent.

    The article said there was no reason to believe that Trump pressuring Zelinsky to investigate Biden (something I agree with Trump on) had anything to do with the large number of Ukrainians coming in and that's true. But the large number of Ukrianians coming if fits with Trumps stated demographic preferences.
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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Something else to consider @Swordsmyth. The article pointed out Trump's preference for "Christian refugees." However Ukraine wasn't in a refugee crisis while Trump was president. But the immigration of Chritains who were being persecuted, like in Syria and Iran, was cut under Trump. Trump even went after Iraqi Christian refugees who had been here for decades.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...-enter-n908501



    At the 2017 conference where Pence made his speech about Christianity being under siege, including in Syria and Iraq, two Christians from Syria were scheduled to take part in a panel. But the two men were denied U.S. visas, according conference organizers, and could not attend after all.

    While Christian refugees face difficulties securing U.S. visas, hundreds of Iraqi Christians already in the U.S., many of whom fled their home country years ago, are now facing the threat of deportation.

    About a month after the vice president’s speech on Christians on May 11, 2017, U.S. authorities began arresting hundreds of Iraqi immigrants in Michigan and elsewhere. The Iraqis were told they had violated immigration laws and were threatened with immediate deportation. Many of the Iraqis were Chaldean Christians and had been living in the U.S. for years, even decades.

    https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-has-...im-refugees-93

    In a campaign address, Donald Trump told his supporters that “if you are Syrian and you’re Christian, it’s almost impossible to come into the United States… it’s all going to change.” After his inauguration, he reiterated the promise. “They’re chopping off the heads of everyone, but more so, the Christians,” he told CBN News. “I thought it was very, very unfair, so we’re going to help them.”

    But he hasn’t. Refugee resettlement has changed, but not for the better. While his administration has reduced Muslim refugee arrivals 93 percent compared to the final months of the Obama administration, it has still slashed Christian refugees 64 percent. He has also cut Syrian Christian refugee arrivals by 94 percent and those from Iraq by 99 percent. He has admitted just 20 Syrian Christians in all of Fiscal Year 2018.

    One of the things I had against the Obama administration is that it didn't do anything to protect the Christians put at risk by his own foreign policy. Apparently Trump didn't care about them either...unless they were from Ukraine.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 09-17-2024 at 08:57 AM.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    One of the things I had against the Obama administration is that it didn't do anything to protect the Christians put at risk by its own foreign policy. Apparently Trump didn't care about them either...unless they were from Ukraine.
    So he left Christians in situations where they were hopelessly outnumbered and, thanks to U.S. foreign policy, unwelcome. But he drained them from a traditionally Orthodox Catholic country being run by a bisexual actor installed for Burisma's benefit?

    Sounds like...

    Just what the CIA ordered.

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    The 4,451 Ukrainians who arrived in the United States during fiscal 2019 made up 15 percent of the 30,000 total refugees who resettled in the country. In 2016, Ukrainians accounted for just 3 percent.
    Not for nothing, but these numbers are insignificant when compared to the millions of invaders over the last four years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not for nothing, but these numbers are insignificant when compared to the millions of invaders over the last four years.
    The U.N. hadn't fully primed the world to expect white refugees back then. But they were working on it. Look at this commercial from 8 years ago.



    I remember when ^that commercial came out thinking "What are they prepping us for?" Now I know.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So I guess Trump should be deported for wanting to allow foreigners to come to the United States.
    In general Trump is far from consistent.

    But as far as I have seen, when it comes to the question of whether or not Trump wanted to allow foreigners to come to the US in large numbers, he has been quite consistent in saying that he does want that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Work on your reading comprehension. Important parts in bold:
    There is no indication that Trump’s relationship with Ukraine — which is at the center of his impeachment saga and an alleged quid pro quo involving military aid in exchange for pressure on a domestic political foe — has played a role in the rise in Ukrainian refugees admitted into the United States. But the demographic shift does appear to be the byproduct of Trump administration policies that have restricted access to the U.S. refu*gee program, experts said.

    Trump has repeatedly stated his desire to block Muslim refugees and to prioritize persecuted Christians from around the world. And his administration has successfully implemented a travel ban and expanded vetting scrutiny for the nationals of several predominantly Muslim nationalities — a program that officials said could expand to bar people from additional countries this year.

    The impact is clear: Though Syria, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Myanmar and Somalia drive more than two-thirds of the international refu*gee crisis, now numbering more than 26 million according to the United Nations, Ukrainians in 2019 outnumbered Syrian refu*gee arrivals in the United States 8 to 1. They outnumbered Afghans nearly 4 to 1, Sudanese 12 to 1 and Somalis 19 to 1.


    “This is unprecedented, and it represents a shift away from the refu*gee program’s historical foundation, which is a needs-based, vulnerability-based program,” said Nazanin Ash, vice president of public policy and advocacy for the International Rescue Committee. “There has been a reordering of the nationalities, and not on the basis of need. The administration’s policies lock out many of the most vulnerable refu*gee populations.”

    The 4,451 Ukrainians who arrived in the United States during fiscal 2019 made up 15 percent of the 30,000 total refugees who resettled in the country. In 2016, Ukrainians accounted for just 3 percent.

    The article said there was no reason to believe that Trump pressuring Zelinsky to investigate Biden (something I agree with Trump on) had anything to do with the large number of Ukrainians coming in and that's true. But the large number of Ukrianians coming if fits with Trumps stated demographic preferences.
    Trump said he didn't want muslims, he didn't say he wanted Ukrainians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump said he didn't want muslims, he didn't say he wanted Ukrainians.
    And yet he deported Iraqi Christians. They aren't Muslims.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And yet he deported Iraqi Christians. They aren't Muslims.
    The deepstate, not Trump:

    President Trump heard on a flight to Michigan for a speech Thursday about the resurgent auto industry that his administration is deporting hundreds of the state’s Iraqi Christians who face persecution abroad — many of whom voted for him in his narrow victory there in 2016.
    By the time Air Force One landed in the battleground state, Mr. Trump had decided to take steps to allow the Chaldeans — Iraqi Catholics — to stay in the U.S.

    More at: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...n-chaldeans-i/
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The deepstate, not Trump:

    President Trump heard on a flight to Michigan for a speech Thursday about the resurgent auto industry that his administration is deporting hundreds of the state’s Iraqi Christians who face persecution abroad — many of whom voted for him in his narrow victory there in 2016.
    By the time Air Force One landed in the battleground state, Mr. Trump had decided to take steps to allow the Chaldeans — Iraqi Catholics — to stay in the U.S.

    More at: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...n-chaldeans-i/
    LOL. Did you read the date on your article? It's freaking 2020! So after four years of betrayal Trump decided to go back and make another promise to those people when he was trying to get re-elected and you blame the "deep state" for a broken promise. Got it. The numbers don't lie. During the Trump presidency there was a massive increase in the number of Ukrainians and a dramatic decrease in Christians who were actually being persecuted.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. Did you read the date on your article? It's freaking 2020! So after four years of betrayal Trump decided to go back and make another promise to those people when he was trying to get re-elected and you blame the "deep state" for a broken promise. Got it. The numbers don't lie. During the Trump presidency there was a massive increase in the number of Ukrainians and a dramatic decrease in Christians who were actually being persecuted.
    Yeah, because Trump had nothing else to deal with while trying to accomplish all the good things he did, he totally knew all along and wasn't being told by ICE that they were just deporting foreign criminals.

    Sure.

    When he found out he did something about it.
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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. Did you read the date on your article? It's freaking 2020! So after four years of betrayal Trump decided to go back and make another promise to those people when he was trying to get re-elected and you blame the "deep state" for a broken promise.
    Like a naughty puppy, he needs his nose rubbed in it or he'll just make the baseless claim that you're a liar yet again.

    https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-imm...orted-michigan

    Published August 19, 2019 at 7:06 AM PDT
    Roland Lizarondo

    Earlier this month, Jimmy Aldaoud, a Chaldean man from Michigan, died shortly after being deported to Iraq. His family says it was because he lacked access to insulin there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not for nothing, but these numbers are insignificant when compared to the millions of invaders over the last four years.

    As I have stated before in other threads, wars were "put on hold" and the whole world was put on global compliance lockdown during that time. Otherwise, Operation Warp Speed, the PharmIndComplex and the largest transfer of wealth never would have worked. You also have to look at the timelines when you Follow the Money. It was all carefully coordinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The U.N. hadn't fully primed the world to expect white refugees back then. But they were working on it. Look at this commercial from 8 years ago.



    I remember when ^that commercial came out thinking "What are they prepping us for?" Now I know.
    There are some African/Arab migrants that had bypassed this by using fake passports and documents claiming they are Ukrainians when they are not.

    This is the length that these human traffickers will go at.


    This happened in Europe as well.When no longer they can convince that they are Syrian they now lie.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    There are some African/Arab migrants that had bypassed this by using fake passports and documents claiming they are Ukrainians when they are not.

    This is the length that these human traffickers will go at.


    This happened in Europe as well.When no longer they can convince that they are Syrian they now lie.
    I sincerely doubt there are any documented cases of African immigrants passing for Ukranian. Arabs? Maybe. Africans? No. If you have a verifiable source please share. But the point I was making with the video is that the U.N. was pushing the idea of white European refugees at a time when there was no (to my knowledge) European refugee crisis going on. We were LONG pass the Balkan wars and the Ukraine war was just some skrimishes in the Donbass. So...did the U.N. know something the rest of us didn't?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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