Donald Trump is NOT a 'threat to the deep state'. Here is his warmongering record.

[PAF]

https://youtu.be/5wwm4OiYY5M


Jul 15, 2024
Following a shooting at a rally in Pennsylvania, Donald Trump's supporters have portrayed him as a so-called "threat to the US deep state". But in reality, Trump was a warmonger as president, and appointed top CIA officials and neoconservatives to run his foreign policy. Ben Norton reviews Trump's support for Israel and Ukraine and his aggressive policies against China, Russia, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Bolivia, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba.


Topics
0:00 (Clips) Trump on Syria, Venezuela, Ukraine
0:32 US politics & bipartisan war crimes
3:29 Alleged assassination attempt against Trump
7:13 Trump's warmongering foreign policy: a summary
11:35 Israel - Palestine
16:56 Trump proposed bombing Russia & China
17:27 Russiagate
18:01 Trump tore up 2 arms treaties with Russia
18:55 Ukraine
20:33 (Clip) Trump boasts of arming Ukraine
20:56 Trump vs Obama on Ukraine weapons
23:02 NATO
24:24 "We're at war with China"
26:24 Trade war & new cold war on China
28:44 Democrats vs Republicans on Russia & China
29:48 Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA)
30:44 Assassination of Qasem Soleimani
31:20 Trump's war on Iraq
32:48 US hypocrisy on "political violence"
34:31 Syria
35:00 (Clip) Trump brags of taking Syria's oil
35:27 Afghanistan war & minerals
37:06 Trump wanted to take oil from Libya & Iraq too
38:15 Yemen
39:24 Trump plans to attack Mexico
41:06 Bolivia coup
41:54 Elon Musk & Bolivia's lithium
43:24 Venezuela
44:06 (Clip) Trump on "taking over" Venezuela
44:18 Venezuela coup attempt
46:00 Nicaragua coup attempt
46:37 Elliott Abrams
47:53 Cuba blockade & sanctions
50:09 Tax cuts for the rich
51:54 Billionaires for fellow billionaire Trump
53:16 Outro

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[Swordsmyth]

Pure garbage.

Trump may not be perfect, but he was and is a distinct improvement and an opponent of the MIC agenda.

[acptulsa]

Pure garbage.

You denounce every second of a fifty-three minute vid in fifteen minutes flat, during which time you were throwing "Leave Trump alone!!" temper tantrums in three different threads, and we're supposed to believe you did that for any reason except blind faith?

[jmdrake]

Pure garbage.

Trump may not be perfect, but he was and is a distinct improvement and an opponent of the MIC agenda.

Obama : "Blow up Libya and Syria for democracy."

Trump : "Make sure you get the oil or don't do it."

That's about the extent of the improvement.

[PAF]

Pure garbage.

Trump may not be perfect, but he was and is a distinct improvement and an opponent of the MIC agenda.

Improvement??? Tell ya what, I supplied the minute marks for the entire video. Listen to the entire video, and let's see if you can dispute any one of the On the Record and then get back to me.

By Caitlin Johnstone
September 17, 2024

"Trump supporters say Trump is anti-establishment, when in reality he’s done more to advance the interests of the establishment than any individual Democrat ever has. In addition to all the longstanding agendas of the US war machine he advanced while president, he also moves US politics in the exact direction the powerful want it to move."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/09/...ation-attempt/

[Todd]

Improvement??? Tell ya what, I supplied the minute marks for the entire video. Listen to the entire video, and let's see if you can dispute any one of the On the Record and then get back to me.

By Caitlin Johnstone
September 17, 2024

"Trump supporters say Trump is anti-establishment, when in reality he’s done more to advance the interests of the establishment than any individual Democrat ever has. In addition to all the longstanding agendas of the US war machine he advanced while president, he also moves US politics in the exact direction the powerful want it to move."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/09/...ation-attempt/

He can't
He didn't listen to it.

He knows this by proclaiming out of the gate that "Trump isn't perfect" as if he has to defend whatever crap is in the video that goes against liberty.

[asurfaholic]

Oh man. Guess I’ll just stay home and hope Kamala wins.

Because when faced with a choice between terrible and imperfect the only reasonable option is …. Neither?

You do you, but my limited knowledge of politics, someone is going to win the White House. One is clearly far and beyond better than the other.

However, my life experience seals the deal. Everything was better under trump than this terrible last 4 years of bidenomics. My business was flourishing, I was making good good money. Bought waterfront property and all the toys I wanted. Under the democrats I watched my profit get decimated and my standard of living has had to be downgraded multiple times to keep me afloat. I had to lay off most of my workers. I’m back to the grind of not just running the business, but being the primary source of billable work hours.

So $#@! your little list of foreign policy debatable questions. I’m stuck here in real life where one option is far superior to the other.

You talk a lot of smack about Trump but you have provided no realistic alternatives for people looking to improve

[acptulsa]

You talk a lot of smack about Trump but you have provided no realistic alternatives for people looking to improve

I only see one. I'm well positioned for it.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...erritory-Again

They're toasting the USA. Time to stop trying to kick the can down the road, there is no more road.

[Valli6]

If he weren't something of a threat, they wouldn't keep trying to kill him.

[acptulsa]

If he weren't something of a threat, they wouldn't keep trying to kill him.

If he was, they'd try harder.

[jmdrake]

Oh man. Guess I’ll just stay home and hope Kamala wins.

Because when faced with a choice between terrible and imperfect the only reasonable option is …. Neither?

You do you, but my limited knowledge of politics, someone is going to win the White House. One is clearly far and beyond better than the other.

However, my life experience seals the deal. Everything was better under trump than this terrible last 4 years of bidenomics. My business was flourishing, I was making good good money. Bought waterfront property and all the toys I wanted. Under the democrats I watched my profit get decimated and my standard of living has had to be downgraded multiple times to keep me afloat. I had to lay off most of my workers. I’m back to the grind of not just running the business, but being the primary source of billable work hours.

So $#@! your little list of foreign policy debatable questions. I’m stuck here in real life where one option is far superior to the other.

You talk a lot of smack about Trump but you have provided no realistic alternatives for people looking to improve

*sigh* I remember happier times on this forum. Like when someone posted the awesome animated commercial of the polar bear asking the lemmings "Why are you voting for McCain?" with their response "Because he can beat Obamaaaaaa." as they run of the cliff with their "McCain 2008" signs only for the same dialog to be repeated for Romney 2012. (Sadly I can't find that video now.) So some of us have now become what we used to mock. By all means vote for your "lesser of two evils." But that doesn't mean the evil itself can't be discussed. As Whitney Webb put it, vote for Trump or Harris or whoever you want but don't think that's going to actually fix anything. What happens between elections is the most important. And hopefully Rand will run in 2028. I'm seeing all the signs of that happening. He's running at least 3 commercials on YouTube right now. (Holding Fauci accountable. Stopping wasteful spending. Do something for real about immigration.)

[Valli6]

If he was, they'd try harder.

I guess in this case, it's a good thing they're stuck with all those DEI hires.

[jmdrake]

I guess in this case, it's a good thing they're stuck with all those DEI hires.

And yet both assassins were white men. Maybe they were secretely gay or something?

[acptulsa]

Secretly?

[CCTelander]

If he was, they'd try harder.

If he was, they’d already have succeeded, the autopsy would have been done (by an incompetent coroner) and the evidence “lost”/suppressed.

[TheTexan]

He's at best a minor nuisance to the deep state

[PAF]

However, my life experience seals the deal. Everything was better under trump than this terrible last 4 years of bidenomics.

So $#@! your little list of foreign policy debatable questions. I’m stuck here in real life where one option is far superior to the other.

You talk a lot of smack about Trump but you have provided no realistic alternatives for people looking to improve

What you are feeling today is the result of Trumpnomics [$8.2+ Trillion spending spree, along with everything in the OP video] which takes a couple of years before they are realized.

Ron Paul: "Those tempted to blame the increases on President Biden, the Democratic Congress, or the Covid-related spending spree should consider the debt increase by around $1 Trillion a year in 2017, and 2018, years when the Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress."

There is nobody to support. Well, unless you want to keep the corrupt system intact.

[Valli6]

And yet both assassins were white men. Maybe they were secretely gay or something?

I wasn't really thinking of the shooters who I consider just pawns, but now that you bring it up, white people can be DEI hires, too. For example, there are plenty of white cops who are too fat or too short for the job, to say nothing of their level of aptitude or skills. In the past, such people were weeded out immediately. Now, the lowered standards mean they are just as likely as anyone else, to be given a position they can't perform well.

I was actually thinking of people in leadership roles though - the ones that do the planning, like Cheatle and her 30% women plan. Hire people based on some meaningless characteristic that has nothing to do with their ability, and you end up with a lot of incompetent people running things.

[CaptUSA]

He's at best a minor nuisance to the deep state

Agreed. At best.

But, his appointments can cause some heartache to them and that's about as good as you can hope for.

There are basically two strategies:
1. Use the political process to slow the State until enough people can wake up, or
2. Hasten its demise and hope for the green shoots of liberty to sprout from the ashes

For the sake of my grandchildren, I'm hoping for option 1. The propaganda machine is losing influence - there is some reason for optimism.

[PAF]

But, his appointments can cause some heartache to them and that's about as good as you can hope for.

There are basically two strategies:

Gary D. Barnett
September 11, 2024

"As I have eluded to on very many occasions, nothing in politics is organic or coincidence, it is always staged and intentional. Everything going on today is planned, as nothing is what it seems. So-called enemies are suddenly partners, and so-called partners are now claiming to be enemies. Party members are switching teams, in direct contradiction of things they have always claimed in the past. Supposed vehement disagreement is suddenly morphing into unanimity. Pretend opposing forces are now endorsing each other. Do any of you think this is real? If so, consider that you are either completely deluded or have simply lost your mind."

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...nd-Imagination

[Occam's Banana]

[...] white people can be DEI hires, too. For example, there are plenty of white cops who are too fat or too short for the job, to say nothing of their level of aptitude or skills. In the past, such people were weeded out immediately. Now, the lowered standards mean they are just as likely as anyone else, to be given a position they can't perform well.

IIRC, NYPD (and other police departments, too?) had - and may still have - an upper limit for the IQ for new recruits.

That's an upper limit, not a lower limit (though I suppose they might have one of those, too).

[spudea]

I watched the 50min bull$#@! video and it has hundreds of lies and misrepresentations. I have a day job and don't have the time nor the interest in explaining it to you for the hundredth time. What I know is I was much better off during the Trump years, we had more peace, prosperity, and freedom than any President during my lifetime, and the deep state was in opposition to his actions every step of the way and have used every type of assassination against him. Character assassination, legal assassination, political assassination. And when none of that worked, they tried death by assassination. They do this to people that are a threat to the deep state. If he was no threat, they wouldn't bother with all this.

https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ate_trump.html

[acptulsa]

They do this to people that are a threat to the deep state. If he was no threat, they wouldn't bother with all this.

They might. There are reasons why they might, whether you believe it or not.

[devil21]

I can't believe that after nearly 10 years of Donald being forced into our faces 24/7/365 by the Mockingbird media and tech elites that whether he's a "threat to the Deep State" is still a question worth even considering. It's ridiculous.

[Anti Globalist]

If Trump was a threat to the deep state, they would have killed him decades ago.

[spudea]

I can't believe that after nearly 10 years of Donald being forced into our faces 24/7/365 by the Mockingbird media and tech elites that whether he's a "thread to the Deep State" is still a question worth even considering. It's ridiculous.

Then why impeach him and try to kill him? If he was beneficial to the deep state he wouldn't even need SS protection. The bushs, Clintons, and the Cheneys have all been embarrassed and practically kicked out of political power. Thank you Trump!

[spudea]

If Trump was a threat to the deep state, they would have killed him decades ago.

Butler PA was a kill shot, he would be dead if he didn't turn his head at the last second. Maybe you would prefer if he didn't survive?

[Swordsmyth]

You denounce every second of a fifty-three minute vid in fifteen minutes flat, during which time you were throwing "Leave Trump alone!!" temper tantrums in three different threads, and we're supposed to believe you did that for any reason except blind faith?

All of the things in this video have been dealt with many times over, it's old and debunked.
It a bunch of misrepresentation and exaggeration that cherry picks and ignores all the good he did.

[Swordsmyth]

Butler PA was a kill shot, he would be dead if he didn't turn his head at the last second. Maybe you would prefer if he didn't survive?

Many make it clear that is their preference.
Marking them as either enemy moles, or compulsive losers who are only happy when they get to complain about losing.

[Swordsmyth]

Obama : "Blow up Libya and Syria for democracy."

Trump : "Make sure you get the oil or don't do it."

That's about the extent of the improvement.

We left Afghanistan and Somalia because of him, we didn't get into a war with Iran in spite of the deepstate's desperate attempts and Iran's attempts to provoke it, he tried to get us out of Syria but the Pentagon lied and defied him about it, he reduced the troop levels many other places and would have done more but Congress passed budgets requiring him to get permission from the deepstate to reduce troop levels in places like S. Korea, and he deescalated in many places like N. Korea, etc. etc. etc.