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    Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris BACKFIRES!

    LOL.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/taylor-sw...235647265.html

    Taylor Swift’s endorsement backfires on Kamala Harris
    Telegraph reporters
    Sat, September 14, 2024 at 6:56 PM CDT·2 min read
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    Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris appears to have backfired, according to a poll.

    A new poll from YouGov released Saturday found that only 8 per cent of voters said the superstar’s approval would see them “somewhat” or “much more likely” to vote for Ms Harris.

    But the same poll, which ran on Sep 11 and 12, found one in five (20 per cent) of those surveyed would be less likely to vote for her after the endorsement.

    Immediately after the Trump-Harris TV debate on Tuesday, Swift posted on Instagram: “I’m voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them,” to her 284 million Instagram followers, urging them to register to vote and make their own choice.

    Her post drew 10.4 million likes and the vote.gov website received 405,999 visitors in the 24 hours after Swift shared a custom URL with followers.

    Ms Harris aides say they would love for Swift to actively campaign, such as by appearing at a rally in her native Pennsylvania, a battleground state that could well decide the election.

    But the polling might suggest this wouldn’t be in her best interests.

    The Harris campaign itself was not involved in Swift’s decision to back Harris.

    The vice president’s aides said they learned of Swift’s support only when the entertainer, 34, posted minutes after the vice president stepped off the debate stage in Philadelphia on Tuesday night.

    What difference does a celebrity endorsement make?
    Celebrity endorsements have shaped recent elections.

    A 2008 Northwestern University report found Oprah Winfrey’s endorsement added a million votes to Barack Obama’s tally.

    But a 2010 North Carolina State University report found celebrity endorsements by George Clooney and Angelina Jolie did little to move the political needle.

    Margaretha Bentley, a professor at Arizona State University whose class studies Swift’s social importance, is unsure whether the pop singer will have an impact. She asked her students earlier this year whether a Swift endorsement would matter. Some said they would follow Swift’s lead and others said it would prompt them to do more research.

    And the poll appears to back Ms Bentley’s view - with 66 per cent saying the celebrity nod of approval would make no difference to how they vote on Nov 5.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    I remember when Taylor Swift refused to ever talk about politics on account that she didn't want to alienate her fan base. Must be deeply regretting that now.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    A new poll from YouGov released Saturday found that only 8 per cent of voters said the superstar’s approval would see them “somewhat” or “much more likely” to vote for Ms Harris.
    I've been trying to find details on that particular poll; with no success. All the right-wing news outlets are heralding it. But I haven't found anything about methodology: sample size, how the sample was selected, characteristics of the sample (age, sex, registered vs unregistered voters) ... all that kind of stuff.

    On another note, though - One of the many reasons I have against democratic voting is how stupid the electorate is and how easily they are manipulated ... celebrity endorsements being just one example. Cue Larry David's "Even The Stupid Ones" crypto ad (at the applicable moment).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    I've been trying to find details on that particular poll; with no success. All the right-wing news outlets are heralding it. But I haven't found anything about methodology: sample size, how the sample was selected, characteristics of the sample (age, sex, registered vs unregistered voters) ... all that kind of stuff.

    On another note, though - One of the many reasons I have against democratic voting is how stupid the electorate is and how easily they are manipulated ... celebrity endorsements being just one example. Cue Larry David's "Even The Stupid Ones" crypto ad (at the applicable moment).
    I question it as well.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Swifts young fans follow her blindly.

    They are politicaly active & have voter registration @ concerts

    Really Wish it didn’t matter but it does.

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    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    I've been trying to find details on that particular poll; with no success. All the right-wing news outlets are heralding it. But I haven't found anything about methodology: sample size, how the sample was selected, characteristics of the sample (age, sex, registered vs unregistered voters) ... all that kind of stuff.

    On another note, though - One of the many reasons I have against democratic voting is how stupid the electorate is and how easily they are manipulated ... celebrity endorsements being just one example. Cue Larry David's "Even The Stupid Ones" crypto ad (at the applicable moment).
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I question it as well.
    I didn't find the YouGov poll but I did find an Ipsos poll that came to the same conclusion.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/4881812...little-impact/

    https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-co...rumpDebate.pdf
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I didn't find the YouGov poll but I did find an Ipsos poll that came to the same conclusion.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/4881812...little-impact/

    https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-co...rumpDebate.pdf
    Well, the more likely percentages are in the same range but the less likely aren't (8% more likely for Harris, 20% less likely ... versus 6% more likely for Harris, 13% less likely). The ratios between the two numbers are off, but the general flow that more people became less inclined to favor Harris is there in both. There are an awful lot of male football fans that think of Taylor as Yoko Swiftie, so maybe that plays into it. And I certainly don't know what to think of the 405K visits to vote.gov in the 24 hours after Taylor provided the URL.

    Bill Maher had mentioned another poll (though I don't have any details) on his "Real Time With Bill Maher" show last Friday (13SEP):
    Maher then attempted to unpack a “surprising” statistic about Swift’s fanbase following her post-debate endorsement of Harris.

    “This was the most surprising part of it, was who she influenced,” he said. “Swift, it says, would have more influence over male voters — 27% of male voters said they’d be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Swift. I must have this phenomenon gauged all wrong. I thought it would be women.”

    Perhaps Maher should invest in a gay friend? They probably would have advised him against making the next joke he did about Swift.

    “Now that Taylor Swift has saved democracy by endorsing Kamala Harris, she has one more mission: stop making Travis Kelce dress like a douche,” said Maher in his ‘New Rules’ segment. “I don’t own a cat but I know what it smells like when they mark their turf.”
    You can see, from that joke, the amount of condescension a lot of people have about the Swift/Kelce relationship (he's done his research about jokes that play well).



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    Again, these polls are bull$#@!.

    She 100% moves the needle on 25yr old & younger voters

    I’ve recently talked to an 18 year old girl who makes minimum wage @ breakfast shop I go to who shelled out $500 for one of her concerts.

    These kids can’t think for themselves & whomever runs swiftly managment successfully preys on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Well, the more likely percentages are in the same range but the less likely aren't (8% more likely for Harris, 20% less likely ... versus 6% more likely for Harris, 13% less likely). The ratios between the two numbers are off, but the general flow that more people became less inclined to favor Harris is there in both. There are an awful lot of male football fans that think of Taylor as Yoko Swiftie, so maybe that plays into it. And I certainly don't know what to think of the 405K visits to vote.gov in the 24 hours after Taylor provided the URL.

    Bill Maher had mentioned another poll (though I don't have any details) on his "Real Time With Bill Maher" show last Friday (13SEP):


    You can see, from that joke, the amount of condescension a lot of people have about the Swift/Kelce relationship (he's done his research about jokes that play well).
    WIth 284 million followers on social media, a mere 450K clicking on a link she shared really isn't that much.

    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Again, these polls are bull$#@!.

    She 100% moves the needle on 25yr old & younger voters

    I’ve recently talked to an 18 year old girl who makes minimum wage @ breakfast shop I go to who shelled out $500 for one of her concerts.

    These kids can’t think for themselves & whomever runs swiftly managment successfully preys on them
    And how many of these 18 year old girls weren't already planning to vote for Kamala Harris? I sincerely doubt there is a strong overlap between impressionable Taylor Swift fans and independet / undecided voters.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Again, they have voter registration @ concerts for these kids @ every concert.

    Plus sending them voting registration link directly to their phone

    It’s a significant political organization

    I don’t like it, but it’s a fact

    Republican party seems to be incredibly week with young female voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Again, they have voter registration @ concerts for these kids @ every concert.

    Plus sending them voting registration link directly to their phone

    It’s a significant political organization

    I don’t like it, but it’s a fact
    Swing states are all that matters. Like Pennsylvania.

    https://www.newsweek.com/voter-regis...ection-1938624

    GOP Voter Registration Four Times Higher Than Democrats in Pennsylvania

    Voter registration among Republicans is four times higher than it is among Democrats in Pennsylvania, according to new data.

    Decision Desk data shows that GOP voter registration surged in July, with more than 21,000 Republicans signing up to vote. In contrast, only 5,000 Democrats registered to vote in July 2024.

    The data also shows that since November 2020, the number of Democrats registered to vote in the state has decreased by more than 320,000. Meanwhile, the number of Republicans registered to vote has also dropped, but by a much smaller margin, with 1,400 fewer voters since 2020.


    Pennsylvania is among the 30 states, including the swing states of North Carolina, Nevada, and Arizona, which register voters by requiring a political party designation. If voters refuse to choose a party, they will remain unaffiliated.

    Republican party seems to be incredibly week with young female voters
    Well that's what happens when you have stupid Republicans in states like Alabama (yes I live there) go so far as to ban all abortions post conception and end up accidentally destorying the IVF industry as well as banning birth control devices like IUDs. Sorry but equating a zygote to a 24 week old fetus is stupid. But now you have women afraid that their state abortion laws will be so draconian that if they get raped they don't even have the option of the morning after pill. (And yes I know that it typically prevents ovulation but it can also prevent implantation.) Trump has verbally distanced himself from that lunacy but the damage is already done.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm going to be straight up honest. I don't get her mega popularity. Her music is meh. If there was ever proof that some musicians sell their soul to the devil for fame, Taylor Swift is it.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I'm going to be straight up honest. I don't get her mega popularity. Her music is meh. If there was ever proof that some musicians sell their soul to the devil for fame, Taylor Swift is it.
    Speaking of meh...



    Teens are definitely herd animals, by and large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Speaking of meh...



    Teens are definitely herd animals, by and large.
    BIte your tongue! That was one of my favorite TV shows as a 6 year old!
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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