Jimmy Dore - Donald Trump talks about bombs taking out twin towers!

[jmdrake]

Hmmm.......so Donald Trump went full truther? And then someone tried to kill him a couple of days later? I gotta admit. I didn't see that one coming.

Note that I still think Ron Paul made a tactical error running from 9/11 conspiracy theories in favor of the less palatable "blowback" theory. Most Republicans are loath to admit that our foreign policy causes the very problems we fight about. Look at the obvious connection between foreign poicy and mass immigration. You won't see a single major GOP politician connect the dots on that

Edit: Nevermind. It sounds like this was a video from back around when 9/11 happened. Before the official story came out it was okay to talk about bombs in the buildings.

[vita3]

& now the kushners & Silverstein real estate companies are partners in massive skyscrapers development in one of most corrupt city in America, Jersey City.


We ain’t all blind

[jmdrake]

& now the kushners & Silverstein real estate companies are partners in massive skyscrapers development in one of most corrupt city in America, Jersey City.


We ain’t all blind

Okay. I didn't know that.

https://www.norwichbulletin.com/stor...2/24430848007/

The next FBI headquarters, a $2 billion project, could be built by a Trump associate
Jonathan O'Connell The Washington Post








WASHINGTON - Two billionaire New York City developers bidding to build a new headquarters for the FBI -- maybe the largest government development since the CIA moved to Langley, Virginia, in 1961 -- have deep ties with President-elect Donald Trump, whose victory injects new intrigue into the jockeying for the more than $2 billion project.

One, Steven Roth, served as an economic adviser to Trump's presidential campaign and co-owns a building with him in Manhattan. Another, Larry Silverstein, has been referred to by Trump as a "friend of mine."

Roth and Silverstein have both known Trump for more than 30 years. They have been rivals on some projects and cheerleaders on others.
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Roth is founder and chairman of Vornado Realty Trust, which acquired a mutual stake with Trump in a 2 million-square-foot Manhattan building in 2007 and has partnered in multiple commercial properties with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner.

[vita3]

Never saw that, thanks for post

“Silverstein, who founded his development company in 1957, has developed, owned or managed 40 million square feet of commercial real estate.

Trump proposed building two office towers with Silverstein at the former World Trade Center site four years after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

At the time, Trump called Silverstein "a great guy, a good guy . . . a friend of mine" in an interview on MSNBC, though they have also feuded on occasion.”

[jmdrake]

Never saw that, thanks for post

“Silverstein, who founded his development company in 1957, has developed, owned or managed 40 million square feet of commercial real estate.

Trump proposed building two office towers with Silverstein at the former World Trade Center site four years after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

At the time, Trump called Silverstein "a great guy, a good guy . . . a friend of mine" in an interview on MSNBC, though they have also feuded on occasion.”

Once. Trump really is a great judge of character. Jefferey Epstein was a "terrific guy." Larry Silverstein is a "great guy, a good guy." The Clintons and the Trumps were friends until they (supposedly) were not. I posted this thread thinking that maybe Trump was a 9/11 truth hero only to find he was actually palling it up with the villians. Interesting. But not nearly as interesting as who's eating cats apparently @Swordsmyth or @Anti Federalist or @dannno. And yes, Trump speculating about bombs going off early on is proof positive that he was not in on whatever happened. But considering him going on Alex Jones in 2016 it seems that at some point he must have figured it out. Maybe not back in 2006 when he called Silverstein a "good guy." But then Trump's seen the entire JFK file by now and is mum about that too.

[Swordsmyth]

Once. Trump really is a great judge of character. Jefferey Epstein was a "terrific guy." Larry Silverstein is a "great guy, a good guy." The Clintons and the Trumps were friends until they (supposedly) were not. I posted this thread thinking that maybe Trump was a 9/11 truth hero only to find he was actually palling it up with the villians. Interesting. But not nearly as interesting as who's eating cats apparently @Swordsmyth or @Anti Federalist or @dannno. And yes, Trump speculating about bombs going off early on is proof positive that he was not in on whatever happened. But considering him going on Alex Jones in 2016 it seems that at some point he must have figured it out. Maybe not back in 2006 when he called Silverstein a "good guy." But then Trump's seen the entire JFK file by now and is mum about that too.

Trump had to do business in those circles, anything nice he said about any of them meant absolutely nothing, and the fact he had Epstein arrested both times speaks much louder.

And he said RFK would be in charge of releasing the JFK files this time.

[jmdrake]

Trump had to do business in those circles, anything nice he said about any of them meant absolutely nothing, and the fact he had Epstein arrested both times speaks much louder.

And he said RFK would be in charge of releasing the JFK files this time.

Whoever had Epstein arrested only did it so they could murder him in jail and call it a suicide. And it was the Miami Herald dredging the case up again in 2018 that led to the arrest.

https://apnews.com/article/epstein-m...1c71e94acf513e

November 2018: The Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta — who by this point is President Donald Trump’s labor secretary — in arranging his unusual plea deal. The coverage renews public interest in the case.

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July 6, 2019: Epstein is arrested on federal sex trafficking charges after federal prosecutors in New York conclude that they weren’t bound by the terms of the earlier non-prosecution deal. Days later, Acosta resigns as labor secretary amid public outrage over his role in the initial investigation.

Aug. 10, 2019: Guards find Epstein dead in his cell at a federal jail in New York City. Investigators conclude he killed himself.

So unless you're saying that Trump was involved in a conspiracy with the Miami Herald, New York federal prosecutors (whom who already said are controlled by the deep state which is why there are so few prosecutions of illegal voting) and whoever "suicided" Epstein, you can't give Trump credit for arresting Epstein.

[Swordsmyth]

Whoever had Epstein arrested only did it so they could murder him in jail and call it a suicide. And it was the Miami Herald dredging the case up again in 2018 that led to the arrest.

https://apnews.com/article/epstein-m...1c71e94acf513e

November 2018: The Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta — who by this point is President Donald Trump’s labor secretary — in arranging his unusual plea deal. The coverage renews public interest in the case.

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July 6, 2019: Epstein is arrested on federal sex trafficking charges after federal prosecutors in New York conclude that they weren’t bound by the terms of the earlier non-prosecution deal. Days later, Acosta resigns as labor secretary amid public outrage over his role in the initial investigation.

Aug. 10, 2019: Guards find Epstein dead in his cell at a federal jail in New York City. Investigators conclude he killed himself.

So unless you're saying that Trump was involved in a conspiracy with the Miami Herald, New York federal prosecutors (whom who already said are controlled by the deep state which is why there are so few prosecutions of illegal voting) and whoever "suicided" Epstein, you can't give Trump credit for arresting Epstein.

Pure hogwash, Trump had him arrested and shut down his operation, the people behind his operation reacted by killing him or faking his death to avoid having their involvement come out at the trial.

Trump had him arrested the first time before he was President and was the only one who tried to help the victims and their lawyers.

You've had all of this proven to you before but you just default to lying as if it never happened as you do about everything.

[jmdrake]

Pure hogwash, Trump had him arrested and shut down his operation, the people behind his operation reacted by killing him or faking his death to avoid having their involvement come out at the trial.

Byllshyt. I posted the actual facts from the actual timeline. You're just making up Trump fan fiction.

[acptulsa]

Trump had him arrested the first time before he was President and was the only one who tried to help the victims and their lawyers.

A New York landlord ordered a Palm Beach DA to make an arrest? Victims have lawyers in the prosecutions of the people who victimize them?

You've had all of this proven to you before but you just default to lying as if it never happened as you do about everything.

You think you proved something that preposterous?

[jmdrake]

A New York landlord ordered a Palm Beach DA to make an arrest? Victims have lawyers in the prosecutions of the people who victimize them?

LOL. More @Swordsmyth fan fiction. There is zero evidence Trump had Epstein arrested the first time. But this is what we DO know. Epstein and Trump were friends until they fell over a property they both wanted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3da_story.html

Apparently someone tipped of the police some months after that. In "Trump is a hero" land that must of been Trump making the tip! Only problem is that Epstein was allowed to come party at Mar-a-largo after charges were filed against him and Trump only banned him from coming to Mar-A-lago some 2 years later because Epstein hit on one of the members' daughter.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trum...g-on-girl.html

[Swordsmyth]

Byllshyt. I posted the actual facts from the actual timeline. You're just making up Trump fan fiction.

A New York landlord ordered a Palm Beach DA to make an arrest? Victims have lawyers in the prosecutions of the people who victimize them?


You think you proved something that preposterous?

Daily Mail: 'Trump blew whistle on Jeffrey Epstein'

Nothing happened until Trump was elected, there was no reason for anything to happen, but Trump was going to have him arrested and expose his customers so Berman had him arrested and undercharged and then had him killed or faked his death to help him escape.


There is simply no explanation why Epstein was arrested other than Trump's election and there is no explanation for Ghislane's after Berman was gone other than that he had been protecting her.

The cabal was quite happy with Epstein as he was and Trump has continuously disrupted the status quo they were happy with, that is not the action of a guilty man but possibly the action of a man deliberately investigating and taking down the cabal.

[acptulsa]

Trump had him arrested the first time before he was President...

Nothing happened until Trump was elected, there was no reason for anything to happen, but Trump was going to have him arrested and expose his customers so Berman had him arrested and undercharged and then had him killed or faked his death to help him escape.


There is simply no explanation why Epstein was arrested other than Trump's election and there is no explanation for Ghislane's after Berman was gone other than that he had been protecting her.

The cabal was quite happy with Epstein as he was and Trump has continuously disrupted the status quo they were happy with, that is not the action of a guilty man but possibly the action of a man deliberately investigating and taking down the cabal.

Trump had him arrested before he was president but nothing happened until he was president though he forced the Palm Beach prosecutor to arrest him before he was president because it was obvious he was going to force someone to arrest him when he became president which was already obviously inevitable -- in two thousand freaking six.

Comedy gold.

[jmdrake]

Daily Mail: 'Trump blew whistle on Jeffrey Epstein'

Nothing happened until Trump was elected, there was no reason for anything to happen, but Trump was going to have him arrested and expose his customers so Berman had him arrested and undercharged and then had him killed or faked his death to help him escape.


There is simply no explanation why Epstein was arrested other than Trump's election and there is no explanation for Ghislane's after Berman was gone other than that he had been protecting her.

The cabal was quite happy with Epstein as he was and Trump has continuously disrupted the status quo they were happy with, that is not the action of a guilty man but possibly the action of a man deliberately investigating and taking down the cabal.

Did you read your own article? According to your article, which sources the book "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump Whitehouse" by Michael Wolff for the claim that Trump is the one who turned Epstein in, Trump only did it because Epstein was going to expose Trump as a "financial fraud." But...okay let's go with that. Trump still let Epstein come to Mar-A-Lago for two years after the initial arrest. (See: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trum...g-on-girl.html) Now maybe you have a source that says Epstein was banned before 2004. If so please share it. And then Trump let's a deal stand where Epstein got off with a slap on the wrist until 2019? Okay.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump had him arrested before he was president but nothing happened until he was president though he forced the Palm Beach prosecutor to arrest him before he was president because it was obvious he was going to force someone to arrest him when he became president which was already obviously inevitable -- in two thousand freaking six.

Comedy gold.

Trump had him arrested the first time, the cabal got him off easy and his operation continued without interruption.
When Trump got in office he was going to have him arrested again, so the cabal tried to preempt Trump and killed him or faked his death to limit the damage of shutting down his operation.

Don't play dumb.

[jmdrake]

Trump had him arrested the first time, the cabal got him off easy and his operation continued without interruption.
When Trump got in office he was going to have him arrested again, so the cabal tried to preempt Trump and killed him or faked his death to limit the damage of shutting down his operation.

Don't play dumb.

Have you read your own article yet?

President Donald Trump played a central role in launching the 2005 criminal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein by the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.

Michael Wolff, who was close with both men in the early aughts, writes in Fire and Fury that Epstein was outed to authorities soon after he threatened to expose Trump as a financial fraud.

It all started in 2004 when Epstein, who was still friends with Trump at the time, invited the real estate scion to see a foreclosed property in the tony enclave that he planned to purchase and then flip.

[Swordsmyth]

Did you read your own article? According to your article, which sources the book "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump Whitehouse" by Michael Wolff for the claim that Trump is the one who turned Epstein in, Trump only did it because Epstein was going to expose Trump as a "financial fraud." But...okay let's go with that. Trump still let Epstein come to Mar-A-Lago for two years after the initial arrest. (See: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trum...g-on-girl.html) Now maybe you have a source that says Epstein was banned before 2004. If so please share it. And then Trump let's a deal stand where Epstein got off with a slap on the wrist until 2019? Okay.

Right, they had to admit something good about Trump so they tried to twist it into something bad with unsubstantiated lies.

Trump tried to help the lawyers of the victims and they said he was the only one who did.

Why he didn't ban him sooner is something I can only speculate about, but everything being covered up and a slap on the wrist combined with Epstein's big connections probably had something to do with it, Trump still had to do business in those circles in NYC real estate etc.

Trump had lots of other things to deal with and to try to accomplish, but he did finally get around to Epstein in 2019, that is something your theory can't explain at all.
Epstein's connections were quite happy with his operation and had no reason to shut it down ever, except that Trump was going to do it and expose them all.

[acptulsa]

Don't play dumb.

But if I don't play dumb I can't play with you at all.

[jmdrake]

Right, they had to admit something good about Trump so they tried to twist it into something bad with unsubstantiated lies.

What's unsubstantiated is the part about Trump being the one who fed the "anonymous tip" to the police to arrest Epstein. Trump has never publicly said that. The police have never publicly said that. But the same book author who said Trump gave the tip gave the reason why. Are you saying Michael Wolff couldn't write a book without exposing who was the "anonymous tipper?" Because that makes no sense.

Trump tried to help the lawyers of the victims and they said he was the only one who did.

Source?

Why he didn't ban him sooner is something I can only speculate about, but everything being covered up and a slap on the wrist combined with Epstein's big connections probably had something to do with it, Trump still had to do business in those circles in NYC real estate etc.

So....on the one hand you admit that Trump was into financial dealings with shady people through his connection with Jefferey Epstein, yet on the other hand you deny the statement by the same Michael Wolff that you're relying on to say that Trump had Epstein arrested when Wolff says Epstein was going to expouse Trump as a financial fraud? You didn't think this through did you? Yes. Trump dealt with shady people. I agree. That's not the only way to make money, but that's how he chose to make his money. One of those shady people threatened to expose Trump's shadyness and, according to Michael Wolff, Trump tipped off the authorities. Okay.

Trump had lots of other things to deal with and to try to accomplish, but he did finally get around to Epstein in 2019, that is something your theory can't explain at all.
Epstein's connections were quite happy with his operation and had no reason to shut it down ever, except that Trump was going to do it and expose them all.

Okay. For the record I haven't put forward a "theory." I've put forward facts which, at this point, you've pretty much conceded. Trump was doing business with shady people. Epstein threatened to expose the shadiness. Trump (maybe) called in the anonymous tip to have Epstein arrested. And thank you for your source because I didn't even know about this part of the scandal. It's looking less and less like Trump was some "hero" working to "shut it down" and more like Trump was a grifter trying to make a quick buck with some shady people and looked the other way when it suited him and turned Epstein in when it didn't then ultimately allowed Epstein's sucide to be covered up for....reasons.

[vita3]

Grifter

[dannno]

Whoever had Epstein arrested only did it so they could murder him in jail and call it a suicide. And it was the Miami Herald dredging the case up again in 2018 that led to the arrest.

The Miami Herald???

Mike Cernovich is the one who dredged up the case, the Miami Herald eventually joined in on the suit.

Trump was responsible for his 2004 arrest.

[jmdrake]

The Miami Herald???

Mike Cernovich is the one who dredged up the case, the Miami Herald eventually joined in on the suit.

Trump was responsible for his 2004 arrest.

Okay. Either way it wasn't Trump. And the 2004 arrest was based on an anonymous tip, unless you believe the book that said Trump was the anonymous tipper and only did it because he was concerned Epstein would expose him as a financial fraud. All of that has already been discussed in the thread. But thanks for your contribution!

[dannno]

Okay. Either way it wasn't Trump. And the 2004 arrest was based on an anonymous tip, unless you believe the book that said Trump was the anonymous tipper and only did it because he was concerned Epstein would expose him as a financial fraud. All of that has already been discussed in the thread. But thanks for your contribution!

No what happened was Epstein called up Trump and said hey, I got a hot tip on this nice property in Florida.. I'm thinking of buying it, upgrading it and making millions, do you have any advice? Trump then went out and out-bid him on the property, Epstein got pissed and said he would ruin him financially. So Trump put in the tip to the FBI. Some ask why Trump didn't do it before.. well, because Trump didn't have direct evidence. He just knew something was fishy. So when Epstein threatened him, he said ok, let's see how you like the FBI sniffing around your op...

[Swordsmyth]

Source?

Remember when the lawyer for Epstein’s victim said Trump was the only “powerful figure” who helped with investigation?

https://revolver.news/2024/01/rememb...investigation/

[jmdrake]

No what happened was Epstein called up Trump and said hey, I got a hot tip on this nice property in Florida.. I'm thinking of buying it, upgrading it and making millions, do you have any advice? Trump then went out and out-bid him on the property, Epstein got pissed and said he would ruin him financially. So Trump put in the tip to the FBI. Some ask why Trump didn't do it before.. well, because Trump didn't have direct evidence. He just knew something was fishy. So when Epstein threatened him, he said ok, let's see how you like the FBI sniffing around your op...

According to the only source that's actually been submitted in this thread, by @Swordsmyth of all people, Epstein was going to expose Trump as a "financial fraud." I'm sure that might "ruin" Trump financially. Regardless, Trump allowed Epstein to continue to come to Mar-A-Largo and didn't ban him until two years after his first arrest because Epstein hit on the daughter of one of Mar-A-Largo's actual club members. Prior to that Epstein and recruited one of Trump's employees into his prostitution ring.