NYT - Do not expect election results on election night

[Anti Federalist]

New York Times Says to Expect Election Results to Take a While

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...ts-take-while/

14 Sept 2024

Expect election results in November to take a while, the New York Times told its readers Friday, a warning that appears to preempt an expectation that Americans should know who wins the presidential election on Election Night.

Before modern technology, close presidential elections often were decided in the early morning of the next day, such as the 1960 presidential election between Robert F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon, which some political experts believe was stolen from Nixon.

Now, in the 21st century, close election results still take a similar amount of time or even longer, depending on the state in question. In 2020, election results were not determined until four days after Election Day.

Americans should not expect to know who won the 2024 presidential election on the night of the election because of “intense security measures required for counting mail-in ballots,” the Times reported:

If a winner is not declared on election night, it will not necessarily point to failures in the process. More likely, it will be a result of the intense security measures required for counting mail-in ballots.

Election officials across the country are trying to telegraph to voters that waiting long hours or even days for a result is not unexpected in a close election. They are eager to counter conspiracy theorists who may seize on the uncertainty as evidence of fraud or malfeasance.

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Counting mail ballots takes more time because there are more steps involved. A variety of security measures, including signature verification and ensuring that voters did not also try to vote in person, are required. Election officials must open the ballots and flatten them out before they can be put in a tabulator to be counted.

The Times, however, reassured readers the 2024 results are not expected to take as long as 2020 because “states have improved their procedures for tabulating mail ballots, and election officials across the country have more experience with the process.”

[sparebulb]

Seem legit.

Followed by:

Don't expect 24/7 electricity.

Don't expect stable prices or availability of necessary food and goods.

Don't expect same-day emergency medical services.

Don't expect Articles 1-8 of the Bill of Rights to be available due to the continuing state of emergency.

The People will grow accustomed to the new realities in time.

Abortions, gambling, booze, illegal drugs, and college/pro sports will still be made available.

[ClaytonB]

[CCTelander]

Election Results = you’re $#@!ed either way.

Just about everyone here knows this, and knows that they’re not going to vote their way out of this mess.

And yet they still devote an inordinate amount of time, energy (both physical and emotional) and other resources to following, attempting to influence and then bitching and moaning about the “outcome.”

Seems an incredible waste to me.

[Anti Federalist]

Election Results = you’re $#@!ed either way.

Just about everyone here knows this, and knows that they’re not going to vote their way out of this mess.

And yet they still devote an inordinate amount of time, energy (both physical andvemotional) and other resources to following, attempting toinfluence and the bitching and moaning about the “outcome.”

Seems an incredible waste to me.

Maybe the great awakening will happen when yet another rigged election goes by.

"Yeah, we rigged it. Why? $#@! you, that's why! And what do you think you're going to do about it?"

A whole nation of Billy Bob Thortons...

[WarriorLiberty]

Trump could still win though.
Even though if he does.

I doubt they will show the results.

[Occam's Banana]

Americans should not expect to know who won the 2024 presidential election on the night of the election because of “intense security measures required for counting mail-in ballots,” the Times reported:

If a winner is not declared on election night, it will not necessarily point to failures in the process. More likely, it will be a result of the intense security measures required for counting mail-in ballots.

Our elections are the most secure in history, even with mail-in-voting.

Also, mail-in-voting is so insecure that "intense security measures" are required - measure which are so "intense", in fact, that they will significantly delay the counting and reporting of results.

The Times, however, reassured readers the 2024 results are not expected to take as long as 2020 because “states have improved their procedures for tabulating mail ballots, and election officials across the country have more experience with the process.”

IOW: Any cheating will go more smoothly and quickly this time.

Election officials [...] are eager to counter conspiracy theorists who may seize on the uncertainty as evidence of fraud or malfeasance.

Then maybe they shouldn't have introduced multiple points-of-failure:

Counting mail ballots takes more time because there are more steps involved. A variety of security measures, including signature verification and ensuring that voters did not also try to vote in person, are required. Election officials must open the ballots and flatten them out before they can be put in a tabulator to be counted.

I will never cease to be bemused at how they conduct themselves in such a way as to prompt and invite "conspiracy theories" - and then express outraged disapproval when, inevitably, those prompts are answered and those invitations are accepted.

I also love how, in the end, their rebuttals of those "conspiracy theories" always ultimately resolve down to just some variation on "trust us, bro!".

They earn and deserve every accusation of "conspiracy" that is thrown at them, no matter how flimsy it might be.

[Anti Federalist]

Our elections are the most secure in history, even with mail-in-voting.

Also, mail-in-voting is so insecure that "intense security measures" are required - measures which are so "intense", in fact, that they will significantly delay the counting and reporting of results.

Thus making them less secure. - AF

Don't you see the logic in that, comrade?

Besides, why worry about something that will never happen?

Keep your mind on your labors, comrade, and leave matters of the state, to the state.

[Anti Globalist]

Something tells me if Trump was not the GOP nominee we would get election results on election night.

[nobody's_hero]

Something tells me if Trump was not the GOP nominee we would get election results on election night.

We have a few districts here in Georgia (namely US-2, Southwest GA, Sanford Bishop's district) where democrats always manage to win by the miracle of mail-in ballots, and it's always late at night when you go to bed looking like you're winning.

I say there's a very easy way to drastically reduce the odds of it happening. Every precinct should hold their results and report simultaneously when the last district to finish counting is ready to report. It should not be hard to do with modern technology.

Everyone says they're ready, everyone shows their cards at the same time, no one gets a chance to say 'oh wait I found another card here in my coat-pocket.'

[Occam's Banana]

Don't you see the logic in that, comrade?

Besides, why worry about something that will never happen?

Keep your mind on your labors, comrade, and leave matters of the state, to the state.

Always wise advice, comrade.

I'm sure the commissariat will let us know what our opinion should be if and when they need it.