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    Lily Tang Williams for U.S. House (NH-02)

    Goodlander and Tang Williams to face off in 2nd Congressional District
    https://www.sentinelsource.com/state...f14c98690.html
    {Claire Sullivan | 11 September 2024}

    Maggie Goodlander, a former Biden administration official, rode her national political connections to victory Tuesday in a bitter battle for the Democratic nomination in the 2nd Congressional District.

    Goodlander will face Republican Lily Tang Williams, a rental property manager, in the first open race for the 2nd District seat in more than a decade.

    [...]

    In a crowded field of Republican competitors, Tang Williams captured 34 percent of the vote with 56 percent of votes counted. The Associated Press called the race at 10:28 p.m. The next top vote-getter was Vikram Mansharamani, with 27 percent, followed by Bill Hamlen, with 17 percent.

    Tang Williams emigrated to the United States from China in 1988 for graduate school. “I grew up under Mao’s cultural revolution in China and fled communism for the freedom of the United States,” she said on her campaign website. “Now, I fear the country I love is becoming the country I left.”

    She highlights a number of issues on her website: getting “special interests, corporations, and the Federal government out of managing the economy,” upholding the First and Second Amendments, securing the border, and eliminating the federal Department of Education.

    [...]



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    New Hampshire, huh?

    What do you think, @Anti Federalist ? Who would you want on your side? Lily the Immigrant or David the White Red-Blooded-Amerikan?

    Let's barter: I'll take 10 Lily's and give you the David
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    New Hampshire, huh?

    What do you think, @Anti Federalist ? Who would you want on your side? Lily the Immigrant or David the White Red-Blooded-Amerikan?

    Let's barter: I'll take 10 Lily's and give you the David
    I happen to have met her briefly at a campaign function.

    Her story is very similar to the stories I heard from Cubans that had escaped communist terror there.

    Very admirable and of course she has the proper view of the people vs government in a free society.

    How does one smart legal Chinese immigrant have anything to do with tens of millions of invaders overrunning the country?

    Sadly, she will not likely unseat Kustler in NH2 any more than Prescott will defeat Pappas in NH1
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I happen to have met her briefly at a campaign function.

    Her story is very similar to the stories I heard from Cubans that had escaped communist terror there.

    Very admirable and of course she has the proper view of the people vs government in a free society.

    How does one smart legal Chinese immigrant have anything to do with tens of millions of invaders overrunning the country?

    Sadly, she will not likely unseat Kustler in NH2 any more than Prescott will defeat Pappas in NH1

    The state [as in fed] pays to bring them here, and then they force them to become "legal". You don't see the root problem? And you wonder why I 'dislike' the state so much? I'm not concerned with immigrants coming in. I'm against the state treating not only the U.S. people as slaves, but the rest of the worlds people too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    The state [as in fed] pays to bring them here, and then they force them to become "legal". You don't see the root problem? And you wonder why I 'dislike' the state so much? I'm not concerned with immigrants coming in. I'm against the state treating not only the U.S. people as slaves, but the rest of the worlds people too.
    I mean come on, PAF, if you're not willing to be treated like a slave by the state, what even is the point of having a state? Sounds like you haven't thought this through.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sadly, she will not likely unseat Kustler in NH2 any more than Prescott will defeat Pappas in NH1
    It's an open seat - Kuster isn't seeking reelection (and her initial endorsee, Van Ostern, lost to Goodlander).

    I snipped everything out of the OP article that wasn't about Tang Williams.

    Notice how Goodlander gets extensive coverage (biography, connections, etc.) while Tang Williams only rates a few brief sentences at the end.

    (I've bolded the bits repeated from the OP.)

    Goodlander and Tang Williams to face off in 2nd Congressional District
    https://www.sentinelsource.com/state...f14c98690.html
    {Claire Sullivan | 11 September 2024}

    [emphasis added - OB]

    Maggie Goodlander, a former Biden administration official, rode her national political connections to victory Tuesday in a bitter battle for the Democratic nomination in the 2nd Congressional District.

    Goodlander will face Republican Lily Tang Williams, a rental property manager, in the first open race for the 2nd District seat in more than a decade.

    Goodlander prevailed over former Executive Councilor Colin Van Ostern, who was endorsed by incumbent Democratic U.S. Rep. Annie Kuster, who has held the seat since 2013 and did not seek a seventh term. The candidates attacked each other sharply in the weeks leading up to the primary, sparring more over background than policy.

    Though animosity had marked the Democratic race in the 2nd District, it faded as the results rolled in. Goodlander told her supporters that both Kuster and Van Ostern had congratulated her and pledged to help her win in November.

    Kuster, who had criticized Goodlander while campaigning for Van Ostern, suggested the testy primary could prove helpful.

    “When I first ran for Congress, I emerged from a spirited primary and it made me a stronger candidate and helped prepare me to win and hold this seat,” she said in a statement. “I know the same will be true for Maggie.”

    Speaking to her supporters, Goodlander looked ahead.

    “The election doesn’t end tonight,” Goodlander said. She didn’t yet know who her opponent would be when she made her victory speech, but she expected that, regardless, they would have stark differences in their visions and urged her supporters to keep fighting.

    Goodlander boasted experience in all three branches of the federal government — most recently as a Department of Justice official and a senior White House adviser — and made the case to voters that her D.C. connections would help her be effective in Congress. She said she will take on “bullies,” which she listed as big corporations, right-wing judges and extreme politicians.

    She has worked for well-known political figures: Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain; Connecticut Independent Joseph Lieberman; Merrick Garland, then chief judge of the D.C. circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals; and Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer. Her husband, Jake Sullivan, is Biden’s national security adviser.

    In her run for Congress, Goodlander has had the backing of the national party establishment. She was endorsed by Hillary Clinton — who also gave a reading at her wedding — and had a million-dollar fundraising edge over Van Ostern.

    At the center of her pitch, too, was her gender. She argued that the state has a tradition of sending women to Congress; three out of four of the state’s all-Democratic congresspeople are women.

    That argument may have been especially salient in a race where both candidates spoke frequently about abortion rights. Goodlander said that on the day Roe v. Wade was overturned — and, with it, long-standing abortion protections — she was at the Department of Justice “fighting back.” She has also highlighted her recent personal experience of losing her son at 20 weeks pregnant. “For this guy, it’s just politics,” she said in a video about Van Ostern. “But for so many of us, it’s personal.”

    Van Ostern had questioned Goodlander’s commitment to abortion rights, including in an ad with Kuster. The incumbent helped him mount another central attack: That Goodlander had spent decades living outside the district, made up of the western chunk of the state, and that her campaign was boosted by out-of-state cash.

    Goodlander rented a home in Nashua around the time of her candidacy. She said more renters should be in Congress, a statement that received backlash because of her $1.2 million home in Portsmouth in the 1st District, multiple media outlets reported.

    In contrast, Van Ostern played up his statewide connections, including two terms on the Executive Council. He managed Kuster’s 2010 run for Congress, which she narrowly lost, and mounted an unsuccessful bid for governor as the Democratic nominee in 2016. He previously worked at Southern New Hampshire University, Stonyfield Yogurt, and more recently as president and chief operating officer of Alumni Ventures, a venture capital company.

    Former Gov. John Lynch withdrew his endorsement of Van Ostern in August and threw his support behind Goodlander instead. “I think his campaign is one of the nastiest I’ve seen in my 50 years of being involved in elections here in New Hampshire,” Lynch told WMUR. “I’m appalled by it, and my family are very upset about it as well.”

    Goodlander has pointed to her deep family roots in Nashua, where she was born and raised. In a video launching her campaign, she visited the polling place where her mother cast a ballot before giving birth to her on Election Day in 1986. Goodlander, with a Yale law degree, has also taught constitutional law in the state at University of New Hampshire and Dartmouth.

    In a crowded field of Republican competitors, Tang Williams captured 34 percent of the vote with 56 percent of votes counted. The Associated Press called the race at 10:28 p.m. The next top vote-getter was Vikram Mansharamani, with 27 percent, followed by Bill Hamlen, with 17 percent.

    Tang Williams emigrated to the United States from China in 1988 for graduate school. “I grew up under Mao’s cultural revolution in China and fled communism for the freedom of the United States,” she said on her campaign website. “Now, I fear the country I love is becoming the country I left.”

    She highlights a number of issues on her website: getting “special interests, corporations, and the Federal government out of managing the economy,” upholding the First and Second Amendments, securing the border, and eliminating the federal Department of Education.

    In the 1st Congressional District, Democratic U.S. Rep Chris Pappas coasted to renomination. He will face former Executive Councilor Russell Prescott.



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    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    I approve of this immigrant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I approve of this immigrant.
    yah mon she BASED!
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    https://x.com/DeeD4747/status/1852180191570772053


    https://x.com/DeeD4747/status/1852301818878939168

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    https://x.com/ButteMTMc/status/1852434249003217220

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    RCP claims Lily is polling behind the Swamp by ~11 to 12 points. I hope they are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://x.com/ButteMTMc/status/1852434249003217220
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    RCP claims Lily is polling behind the Swamp by ~11 to 12 points. I hope they are wrong.
    How the hell did we end up where the Democrat id bragging about working for John McCain and bringing America to the bring of WW 3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    How the hell did we end up where the Democrat id bragging about working for John McCain and bringing America to the bring of WW 3?
    I dunno, but that's where we're at LOL
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    Give 'em hell Lily.
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    I do love this place...Hope she pulls it off.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    It's an open seat - Kuster isn't seeking reelection (and her initial endorsee, Van Ostern, lost to Goodlander).
    Thanks for all that info.

    I missed it when you posted it and since it's not my district I didn't know Kuster was not running again.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Thanks for all that info.

    I missed it when you posted it and since it's not my district I didn't know Kuster was not running again.
    You're probably right, anyway.

    But damn!, wouldn't it be awesome if you turned out not to be?

    (Thomas Massie might finally have some competition for the highly coveted position of "OB's favorite person in Congress".)

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    NH: Lily Tang fries Dem. Challenger

    AF what's your opinion? Tis your state I believe.



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    It started silly.
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    You can't fake that expression on Maggie's face. Lily starts roasting her husband and suddenly that face goes as long as a horse's.

    (I hate how you can't post a reply on twitter without it re-linking the whole thing. I'm sorry Occam.)
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    https://x.com/Lily4Liberty/status/1853196001475273095

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I know next to nothing about her. But any idea what the neocon charge comes from? This doesn't sound like neoconservatism to me:

    Foreign Policy

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    Congress has been derelict in building consensus amongst our citizens by refusing to declare war when we have waged war. This is one of Congress’s most sacred duties, yet it has failed miserably, especially since WWII (i.e. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan …).
    Other world organizations, like the World Economic Forum or the United Nations, have no legal authority or mandates over our citizens. The U.S. Congress is solely responsible for ensuring citizens representation and consent before any foreign conflict.
    https://www.lilytangwilliams.com/congress/issues/
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    I know next to nothing about her. But any idea what the neocon charge comes from? This doesn't sound like neoconservatism to me:

    https://www.lilytangwilliams.com/congress/issues/
    As far as I can tell, it's over this item in particular:

    https://x.com/Lily4Liberty/status/1841583103355027644


    https://x.com/LPMisesCaucus/status/1841953179954528350
    & https://x.com/Lily4Liberty/status/1841982386600292763

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    As I read it, she hasn't said enough. She may or may not be a neocon. But if she isn't, then it's her job to clarify how she isn't. OK, so supporting Israel morally doesn't mean supporting war. Well, what specifically does it mean in terms of the kinds of bills you would vote for an against?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    As I read it, she hasn't said enough. She may or may not be a neocon. But if she isn't, then it's her job to clarify how she isn't. OK, so supporting Israel morally doesn't mean supporting war. Well, what specifically does it mean in terms of the kinds of bills you would vote for an against?
    I agree.

    But by the same token, I also think the "neocon" accusations & dismissals are (as yet) unwarranted.

    And even if she did endorse interventionism in the particular case of Israel, that wouldn't necessarily make her a "neocon" - just an ad hoc interventionist, which is bad enough, without having to exaggerate it into something even worse (while simultaneously degrading the concept of "neo-conservative" as a useful distinction).

    Every "neocon" is an interventionist - but not every interventionist is a "neocon".

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