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    Trump says he won't do another debate with Kamala Harris

    https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-new...kamala-harris/

    This move makes no sense. Kamala fumbled in the debate on gun control and Trump missed the opportunity to make her explain how she plans to not take everyone's guns and yet still do a mandatory gun buy back. Even with that missed opportunity, Kamala still tripped all over herself to the point that some progressives are even calling her out.



    Oh well. We'll see what ultimately happens.
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    He lost

    Can’t spin it

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    He lost

    Can’t spin it
    Well neither did Harris win on points with the Liberals. The only ones who say she won are the Media.

    Trump didnt do well on some points. But neither did Harris.

    The ABC Trash Debate didn't even press on Harris on the ecmocny nor on the rising costs..

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    BS

    Everyone I talked with said Kamala won. & my circle is well over 75% R’s

    He has no self control & showed his age

    Keep it real.

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    I wouldn't do another one if I were him. They fact checked him and not her. Cut his mic, but not hers.

    I don't think either of them did well and the debate made no difference in the race. There were no winners.

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    She won bigly.

    Consensus was she was dumb & couldn’t handle herself

    All we heard for weeks was she wouldn’t or couldn’t give a live interview

    Guess what she was studying for this debate & got an A.

    She PLAYED him.

    Hilarious, but real sad for his die hard supporter’s.

    Trump doesn’t want anymore
    Last edited by vita3; 09-12-2024 at 05:25 PM.

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    People hear what they want to hear so it's not going to matter much. The R's will vote for Trump, the D's will vote for Kamala.

    What I heard: Nothing but childish yip-yap and "my government growth/control is better than your government growth/control".

    That's what I didn't want to hear. But I did so I can't unhear it.


    Edit because this is posted in the wrong thread, but it still applies.
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    Trump Destroyed By His Own Hubris

    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    https://nypost.com/2024/09/12/us-new...kamala-harris/

    This move makes no sense. Kamala fumbled in the debate on gun control and Trump missed the opportunity to make her explain how she plans to not take everyone's guns and yet still do a mandatory gun buy back. Even with that missed opportunity, Kamala still tripped all over herself to the point that some progressives are even calling her out.



    Oh well. We'll see what ultimately happens.
    Call it "poetic justice." Trump dodged all of the Republican Primary debates, because he was so proud that he had a commanding lead with Republican voters (in the polls and in the eyes of the mainstream media), and he felt that Republican voters didn't need to hear his positions challenged and scrutinized with the other candidates.

    Now he lost what is probably his last debate to a candidate who, like him, dodged the public, flying high on the polls and favor of the mainstream media and would-be voters. Trump is an arrogant person whose ego got the best of him against a woman who memorized her script and played him by leading him into all the traps that Trump's persona couldn't help.
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post

    Now he lost what is probably his last debate ...
    I'm not so sure about that. That was my initial take, too, but it's not what I'm seeing a couple of days out. The clips going around are positive for Trump. His closing statement "why have you done it?" is going kinda viral. Meanwhile, there's a sentiment that it was 3 on 1 and Americans like the underdog. Also, I'm seeing that she came off as extremely unlikeable and over-rehearsed.

    So while we saw her sound competent and Trump sound like an old, scatterbrained has-been, this is not the lingering impression. Believe it or not, he may get a bounce out of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    She won bigly.

    Consensus was she was dumb & couldn’t handle herself

    All we heard for weeks was she wouldn’t or couldn’t give a live interview

    Guess what she was studying for this debate & got an A.

    She PLAYED him.

    Hilarious, but real sad for his die hard supporter’s.

    Trump doesn’t want anymore
    If you look at the audaince during the debates.

    The people wanted to hear Harris Polices and how she would be any different from VP and Biden.

    Did Harris deliver onto what kind of polices Harris would bring onto the table during the debate?

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    I won the debate by not watching any of it
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Suppose Trump's team is fearing that Klamydia won't do another debate.

    What is the best way to get her to commit?

    Beat her to the punch and make noise that Trump won't do another one.

    She will lock herself in to doing one if she belittles Trump for it.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking it on my 1D level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Suppose Trump's team is fearing that Klamydia won't do another debate.

    What is the best way to get her to commit?

    Beat her to the punch and make noise that Trump won't do another one.

    She will lock herself in to doing one if she belittles Trump for it.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking it on my 1D level.
    Genius! That is almost certainly what he is doing, which means it isn't what he's doing, because that would be too predictable.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I won the debate by not watching any of it
    Same here. Satisfactory 1.0 release was the bigger deal.
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    Don't blame him but this move makes it seem like he's being a sore loser.

    There was no need to state this publicly.

    Trump's campaign is $#@!.

    As Dr. Paul and Daniel pointed out, it was 3 against 1.

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    I'm thinking Trump may be trying to goad her into insisting on another debate, and when she keeps demanding one, he can finally say Fine, but I'll pick the venue this time. How can she refuse after getting her way twice? Then he can arrange an X-hosted debate with moderators Joe Rogan, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich (to round things out with a democrat).

    Also, I don't get at all, why people imply Trump lost the last debate just because his face showed some disgust when he heard lies, or noticed that the moderators were treating them differently. He's a human and normal humans get angry - not bubbly or polite - when they hear falsehoods or feel cheated.

    Kamala Harris on the other hand is a sociopath and can only pretend to have emotions she's not actually experiencing, in order to manipulate people. That's winning?! Frankly, if you watched her face, she appeared as though she was on the verge of crying many times and took a while to recover - which I suppose is something like a skill during a debate, although it doesn't say anything about your decency as a human being.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    I'm thinking Trump may be trying to goad her into insisting on another debate, and when she keeps demanding one, he can finally say Fine, but I'll pick the venue this time. How can she refuse after getting her way twice? Then he can arrange an X-hosted debate with moderators Joe Rogan, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich (to round things out with a democrat).

    Also, I don't get at all, why people imply Trump lost the last debate just because his face showed some disgust when he heard lies, or noticed that the moderators were treating them differently. He's a human and normal humans get angry - not bubbly or polite - when they hear falsehoods or feel cheated.

    Kamala Harris on the other hand is a sociopath and can only pretend to have emotions she's not actually experiencing, in order to manipulate people. That's winning?! Frankly, if you watched her face, she appeared as though she was on the verge of crying many times and took a while to recover - which I suppose is something like a skill during a debate, although it doesn't say anything about your decency as a human being.

    4 years of Trump and 4 years of Biden is all the debate that is needed.


    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    People hear what they want to hear so it's not going to matter much. The R's will vote for Trump, the D's will vote for Kamala.

    What I heard: Nothing but childish yip-yap and "my government growth/control is better than your government growth/control".

    That's what I didn't want to hear. But I did so I can't unhear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    His closing statement "why have you done it?" is going kinda viral.
    Going viral among people with room temperature IQs
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Going viral among people with room temperature IQs
    Actually the idea that Kamala is being disingenuous to act like she wasn't part of what happened or didn't happen for the past 4 years registers with anyone who has a pulse and is not in a persietent vegatative state. See the OP video. That lady is left of Bernie and she called BS on Kamala when it came to the economy.
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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Call it "poetic justice." Trump dodged all of the Republican Primary debates, because he was so proud that he had a commanding lead with Republican voters (in the polls and in the eyes of the mainstream media), and he felt that Republican voters didn't need to hear his positions challenged and scrutinized with the other candidates.

    Now he lost what is probably his last debate to a candidate who, like him, dodged the public, flying high on the polls and favor of the mainstream media and would-be voters. Trump is an arrogant person whose ego got the best of him against a woman who memorized her script and played him by leading him into all the traps that Trump's persona couldn't help.
    Are you kidding, Theo?? He has done a ton of rallies. Sometimes, multiple ones a day. He has had interviews and not taped, edited ones, a town hall, and many open question and answer multiple hour press deals. That is the exact opposite of Heels Up, Harris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Going viral among people with room temperature IQs
    Oh? How many times did you watch it?


    Unfortunately, those people vote too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Are you kidding, Theo?? He has done a ton of rallies. Sometimes, multiple ones a day. He has had interviews and not taped, edited ones, a town hall, and many open question and answer multiple hour press deals. That is the exact opposite of Heels Up, Harris.
    Q: How can you tell which of the ones who go to those rallies are the true conservative/freedom advocates?

    A: The ones who leave/walk out before it's over.
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    Trump Takes Debates For Granted...and Lost in the Last One

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Are you kidding, Theo?? He has done a ton of rallies. Sometimes, multiple ones a day. He has had interviews and not taped, edited ones, a town hall, and many open question and answer multiple hour press deals. That is the exact opposite of Heels Up, Harris.
    Yes, I know that Trump has done way more public engagement than Kamala. My point is Trump was outsmarted by a really stupid candidate because he allowed his own ego to get the best of him and fell into her traps. And it's his ego which will be his undoing, just as his ego kept him from being judged by Republican Primary voters in his refusal to participate in those debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Actually the idea that Kamala is being disingenuous to act like she wasn't part of what happened or didn't happen for the past 4 years registers with anyone who has a pulse and is not in a persietent vegatative state.
    Trump also had 4 years to accomplish his agenda.


    Vance would be a much better person to deploy that message, it would come off vastly better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Trump also had 4 years to accomplish his agenda.


    Vance would be a much better person to deploy that message, it would come off vastly better.
    On the border, which Kamala was declared by the media to be the border czar, Trump did much better than Bidn / Harris. PBS even fact checked Biden on that. Same for crime. It was trending down until the "summer of love." The murder rate for African AMericans is still trending up. Trump can claim the economy was doing good until COVID but Biden /Harris have inflationproblems that are independent of COVID. Again watch the OP video. It's not merely a question of getting an agenda through It's the question of "Are you better of now than you were 4 years ago."
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    On the border, which Kamala was declared by the media to be the border czar, Trump did much better than Bidn / Harris. PBS even fact checked Biden on that. Same for crime. It was trending down until the "summer of love." The murder rate for African AMericans is still trending up. Trump can claim the economy was doing good until COVID but Biden /Harris have inflation problems that are independent of COVID. Again watch the OP video. It's not merely a question of getting an agenda through It's the question of "Are you better of now than you were 4 years ago."

    Ron Paul: "Those tempted to blame the increases on President Biden, the Democratic Congress, or the Covid-related spending spree should consider the debt increase by around $1 Trillion a year in 2017, and 2018, years when the Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress."
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Q: How can you tell which of the ones who go to those rallies are the true conservative/freedom advocates?

    A: The ones who leave/walk out before it's over.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Trump also had 4 years to accomplish his agenda.


    Vance would be a much better person to deploy that message, it would come off vastly better.
    Well so did Biden/Harris had 4 years to accomplish certain things. Yet they Harris/Biden admin haven't done anything expect the opposite.

    On Immigration they are still committed on welcoming more migrants and their allies in senate want 10 Million migrants given citizenship.



    Giving citizenship to undocumented migrants.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    4 years of Trump and 4 years of Biden is all the debate that is needed.
    Essentially that's true, and it proves that Trump is the better candidate.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Q: How can you tell which of the ones who go to those rallies are the true conservative/freedom advocates?

    A: The ones who leave/walk out before it's over.
    I have never noticed people leaving. However, I am sure a few do just to avoid the traffic jam that will occur.
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