OH - Haitian migrants eating cats?

[Swordsmyth]

The same reasons Kamala Harris killed Tim Scott's 2020 police reform bill. 1) Don't let the other side's president get credit for anything too close to an election and 2) keep the issue alive to run against.

No, because it was a Trojan horse filled with garbage and because they were using it to pretend they couldn't solve the problems they caused without it.

[Swordsmyth]

There's a long history of racists saying that they would like to remove their imagined villains from their nations. You could charitably read into that that they would be expelled or otherwise allowed to leave.

The Haitian revolutionary leaders said that they would expel the French. And they did. Twice.

The issue comes when you expel the bogeymen and it doesn't solve your problems. Then you have to invent for your people some reason why your plan didn't work. You have to take more drastic action.



And the Haitians left the Poles and the Germans because they were not the invaders and slavers.


I'm sure that the "vast majority" who are expelled alive will be grateful to you that your genocide only killed a minority.

No, they killed all the whites, and the French did not invade the blacks in Haiti, they brought them from Africa after buying them from the other Africans.

The left and their invader pets are responsible for most of our problems, and we have policy solutions for any they aren't the cause or the accelerator of.

You don't want America to be American, you want it to turn into a communist country and be absorbed by the global government, that's why you want to keep the left and the invaders, and bring in even more.

Those that do get killed will be because they have been committing death penalty crimes or because they violently resist.

Your spin is weak.

[Swordsmyth]

If I were trying to start WWIII, I'd be trying to get people's panties in a knot over kittens and puppy dogs too.

LOL
Trump is the only hope to prevent WWIII.
He brought up the pets because it connects on an emotional level with undecided voters.

You'd vote for civil war every time, wouldn't you?

We've been in one for generations now, and they will take it hot, when we win we have to clean house.

[jmdrake]

The Ds hate the cats and dogs issue because it resonates on an emotional level with moderates and mild leftists who don't care about the money etc.
That's why they sent out orders to lie about it and try to shut it down.

They sent out orders to the Republican governor of Ohio to lie about it? And they sent J.D. Vance a memo to make sure and reference and already debunked video where the woman not Haitian and use that as his "proof" of the story? Ummm.....okay.

[Swordsmyth]

They sent out orders to the Republican governor of Ohio to lie about it? And they sent J.D. Vance a memo to make sure and reference and already debunked video where the woman not Haitian and use that as his "proof" of the story? Ummm.....okay.

Yes, the governor is a RINO member of the Uniparty and part of their human trafficking scheme.

Vance just didn't find all the other proof that's been posted here and made a minor mistake.

[TheCount]

No, they killed all the whites, and the French did not invade the blacks in Haiti, they brought them from Africa after buying them from the other Africans.

You don't think Poles and Germans are white? Interesting.

The left and their invader pets are responsible for most of our problems, and we have policy solutions for any they aren't the cause or the accelerator of.

You don't want America to be American, you want it to turn into a communist country and be absorbed by the global government, that's why you want to keep the left and the invaders, and bring in even more.

Blah blah blah blah. Utter pablum as always.

Those that do get killed will be because they have been committing death penalty crimes or because they violently resist.

Your spin is weak.

Rationalize your proposed genocide however you like, it won't make it less evil and stupid.

[jmdrake]

Yes, the governor is a RINO member of the Uniparty and part of their human trafficking scheme.

Vance just didn't find all the other proof that's been posted here and made a minor mistake.

LOL. It's scary that J.D. Vance is less informed about what he's going to say than amatures on this forum. That said, in this thread there was no fact checking until @TheCount brought up in post #134 that one of the cat eaters being talked about was white. That's the danger of echo chamber politics were people are attack for "pushing MSM narratives" simply by putting forward (*gasp*) actual facts that don't fit the narrative. Every campaign should have naysayers in it that clean up claims befoe they are made public. Also your idea that "moderates and liberals care morre about cats" is provably false. A video I posted recently of a progressive complaining about immigration was making the same point as many of the white welfare dependant Trump supporters in the video @vita3 posted which is immigrants are getting welfare benefits that people born in this country can't get, white, black, brown or other. I pointed that out here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7251081
@Brian4Liberty responeded with this:

I had never heard anything from her, but you hit it on the head, she is far left, more like in the Marxist camp. It's all about oppressors and oppressed. Her main complaint is that she believes her community is not getting enough free handouts, and she is jealous that other groups are getting free stuff. She says it's not fair. That is standard Marxist conditioning.

How about we make everything "fair" by government not giving out any free stuff, including lucrative crony corporatist "contract" handouts?

Ummm...okay. And some of those red MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters in Springfield Ohio were saying the exact same thing. "We can only get $400 in food stamps and they're geting $30,000 in food stamps." Ummm....okay. @Anti Federalist, if you really want to "stop the invasion" keep the MAGA hat wearing "Marxists" (not really but that's how it's being framed) and the black inner city "Marxists" to come together and say "Hey! We're both being replaced!" (Kind of like Quigley fighting on the side of the aborigines with his .45 Sharp's rifle.) And sure. Somewhere down the line you work to wean both groups off of food stamps by creating real economic opportunity through gold backed money or whatever the plan is. Or....you can talk about cat jerky. I really don't care. America is fvcked anyway. Black Rock controls both sides.

[Anti Federalist]

I really don't care. America is fvcked anyway.

And that is pretty much the bottom line.

That reduces all the rest of this to nothing more than smoke and hot air and $#@! flinging.

I happen to agree, I think the damage is done and America, as a nation, is finished.

As this spirals out of control, my focus narrows more every day.

My people are a tiny minority of the world population.

I would like to save them and our finer ideals from the coming genocide, for the sake of my children.

I'd also like to stamp out the homicidal lunatics that threaten all of mankind with death from their ever $#@!ing, man made plagues.

[Brian4Liberty]

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http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7251081
@Brian4Liberty responeded with this:

Ummm...okay. And some of those red MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters in Springfield Ohio were saying the exact same thing. "We can only get $400 in food stamps and they're geting $30,000 in food stamps." Ummm....okay...

I don't recall that exact quote from "red MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters in Springfield". Do you have it handy?

Anyways, Marxist conditioning is in no way exclusive to any specific group. It grips people from any group, unless they have been educated to see it for what it is. White people in the northern states are exceptionally vulnerable to the Marxist siren call. They tend to be naïve, bleeding-heart suckers. Tim Walz is a prime example.

[jmdrake]

I don't recall that exact quote from "red MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters in Springfield". Do you have it handy?

Please watch this video:

Anyways, Marxist conditioning is in no way exclusive to any specific group. It grips people from any group, unless they have been educated to see it for what it is. White people in the northern states are exceptionally vulnerable to the Marxist siren call. They tend to be naïve, bleeding-heart suckers. Tim Walz is a prime example.

America is burning and you're worried about whether the people helping you put out the fire want more food stamps. Again, watch the video.

Edit: To save you time, start watching it at 19 minutes it.

[jmdrake]

And that is pretty much the bottom line.

That reduces all the rest of this to nothing more than smoke and hot air and $#@! flinging.

I happen to agree, I think the damage is done and America, as a nation, is finished.

As this spirals out of control, my focus narrows more every day.

My people are a tiny minority of the world population.

I would like to save them and our finer ideals from the coming genocide, for the sake of my children.

I'd also like to stamp out the homicidal lunatics that threaten all of mankind with death from their ever $#@!ing, man made plagues.

The best way to accomplish that goal is to find common ground with other people outside your core group when possible as opposed to doing the opposite. Take what you posted the other day about Hatians eating dirt. Well, I didn't say anything, but my mom (RIP) told me how as a girl she sometimes ate clay. And unlike some of the white MAGA hat wearing people in the video I referenced who are upset about the Hatian migrants, my mom never took welfare. And guess what? George Clooney's daughter eats clay too. Go figure?

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magaz...nitor-27323160

Yep. Dropping 20,000 people off in a town of 40,000 in a period of a few years and (apparently) giving them government funded financial advantages over the people already there is a problem. I say apparently because that's one part of the story that's had the least amount of fact checking. (I see @Brian4Liberty posted an EBT receipt photo earlier in this thread). It would have been nice if the YouTuber video vita3 posted had gone to the welfare office and talked to them when the Hatians at the center didn't talk to him. (Maybe he tried to do that but I don't see it in the video). Somebody should be answering that question (how are there THOUSANDS of dollars on an immigrant EBT card when Americans are just getting $400.00), but instead...the conversation is about debunked cat eating videos.

[TheCount]

The best way to accomplish that goal is to find common ground with other people outside your core group when possible as opposed to doing the opposite.

There's a reason that this xenophobia is so specifically targeted.

Q: Assuming that conservatives are religious and tend towards traditional family life, which peoples would they naturally find common ground with?

A: Blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims.

[TheCount]

Dropping 20,000 people off in a town of 40,000 in a period of a few years and (apparently) giving them government funded financial advantages over the people already there is a problem.

Search Springfield population by year on your favorite search engine of choice.

Keep in mind that the numbers include the refugees.



Haitians chose to move to Springfield.

[jmdrake]

There's a reason that this xenophobia is so specifically targeted.

Q: Assuming that conservatives are religious and tend towards traditional family life, which peoples would they naturally find common ground with?

A: Blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims.

Oh sure. It was mostly Hispanics and Muslims who killed gay marriage in California, of all places, prior to the Supreme Court striking down all gay marriage bans.

[jmdrake]

Search Springfield population by year on your favorite search engine of choice.

Keep in mind that the numbers include the refugees.

Looks like it peaked in 1990 and dropped every year after.

https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/springfield-ohio

Haitians chose to move to Springfield.

Seems like an odd "choice" for every 1 in 5 Haitian migrants especially considering already established Hatian American communities in places like Miami. Enticed might be a better word.

[Valli6]

Haitians chose to move to Springfield.

How could Haitians possibly research, learn about and choose to move to Springfield?
That's ridiculous.

Springfield was CHOSEN for them by some government or government-tied entity.
No one checked with Springfield's citizens before implementing their plan to FORCE them on the town's citizens - because their answer would hve been NO. They did not consent.

[TheCount]

How could Haitians possibly research, learn about and choose to move to Springfield?
That's ridiculous.

If you'd seen even one of the interviews with them you'd know how.

Word of mouth in their community that there were jobs and housing available in a dying rust-belt town.

[TheCount]

Seems like an odd "choice" for every 1 in 5 Haitian migrants especially considering already established Hatian American communities in places like Miami. Enticed might be a better word.

Miami? Two issues:
- High cost of living
- Good luck competing for low pay unskilled jobs with the rest of the people in Miami looking for the same

[Matt4Liberty]

Hit the bong JR. He made the issue cartoonish for over 50% of the Nation

& why did he kill the 2024 immigrartion bill?

The one that legalized over 4,000 criminal aliens per day? Yeah, that was just political and had nothing to do with it actually expanding criminal immigration. Much like most bills doing the opposite of what they are called. You probably believe that the inflation reduction act reduced inflation and the affordable care act made healthcare more affordable.

[Matt4Liberty]

If you'd seen even one of the interviews with them you'd know how.

Word of mouth in their community that there were jobs and housing available in a dying rust-belt town.

Have you had a stroke lately? Your trolling usually has at least a bit of intelligence to it. Lately it's just been laughably ignorant of any topic. Jeffe Biden planting them there had absolutely nothing to do with this coincidence.

[jmdrake]

If you'd seen even one of the interviews with them you'd know how.

Word of mouth in their community that there were jobs and housing available in a dying rust-belt town.

1 in 5 people going to one town? No other towns between wherever they came in and Springfield Ohio?

[vita3]

Matt4,

Some compromise by hardliners has to materialize. Hardliners will never get everything they want on immigration

Now Truth be told I don’t know the full details of immigration bill that was killed.

[A. Havnes]

The Ds hate the cats and dogs issue because it resonates on an emotional level with moderates and mild leftists who don't care about the money etc.
That's why they sent out orders to lie about it and try to shut it down.

On some level this is true. Remember what Noem killing her own young dog and uncastrated goat did to her?

[Intrepid]

I'm clearing out my fridge and filling it full of cats, dogs, bugs and dirt cookies.

[Anti Federalist]

available in a dying rust-belt town.

That's exactly right, a dying rust belt town, that used to be a thriving manufacturing town with good middle class opportunities.

Some of us, me, are fighting to restore that.

Some of us, you, hate that and would just as soon see the existing population there, beat down by government economic policy, government border policy and a hundred different other factors, die already and be replaced by the "vibrant, hard working newcomers".

[Invisible Man]

What I really get a kick out of is people talking about geese.

The accusation I'm hearing is that some Haitians are feeding their families wild geese that they killed. A bunch of phony conservatives are up in arms about this.

I don't know if that's happening or not. But if it is, that's what I call a win-win.

[Anti Federalist]

What I really get a kick out of is people talking about geese.

The accusation I'm hearing is that some Haitians are feeding their families wild geese that they killed. A bunch of phony conservatives are up in arms about this.

I don't know if that's happening or not. But if it is, that's what I call a win-win.

If I went down to the lake and shot a few geese and took them home to eat, I'd get arrested.

To legally take geese, they must be in season, you must have a valid hunting license, you must use steel shot, your shotgun must be plugged to no more than three rounds, you must do it in daylight only, you must adhere to bag limits, you must have a federal tax stamp, you must have a state tax stamp, you must wear hi vis clothing...I could go on and on.

You can not just go down to the pond and wring their necks.

Or least not if you're a chump, whitebread, AmeriKunt, like me.

If you're a protected invader, then by all means, new friends, kill all the geese.

And everything else you used to do back home.

And before long Springfield will look like this.



Of course, many AmeriKunt cities already look like that.

Which is what Marxist wreckers and their collaborators want, of course.

[jmdrake]

If I went down to the lake and shot a few geese and took them home to eat, I'd get arrested.

To legally take geese, they must be in season, you must have a valid hunting license, you must use steel shot, your shotgun must be plugged to no more than three rounds, you must do it in daylight only, you must adhere to bag limits, you must have a federal tax stamp, you must have a state tax stamp, you must wear hi vis clothing...I could go on and on.

You can not just go down to the pond and wring their necks.

Or least not if you're a chump, whitebread, AmeriKunt, like me.

A federal tax stamp to go hunting? I never heard of that. Granted I've only gone fishing and so I'm used to a state fishing license and there is no (to my knowledge) federal fishing license.

Anyhow....I somehow think Errol Flynn would be more in favor of the Haitians.

[Invisible Man]

If I went down to the lake and shot a few geese and took them home to eat, I'd get arrested.

To legally take geese, they must be in season, you must have a valid hunting license, you must use steel shot, your shotgun must be plugged to no more than three rounds, you must do it in daylight only, you must adhere to bag limits, you must have a federal tax stamp, you must have a state tax stamp, you must wear hi vis clothing...I could go on and on.

You can not just go down to the pond and wring their necks.

Or least not if you're a chump, whitebread, AmeriKunt, like me.

If you're a protected invader, then by all means, new friends, kill all the geese.

And everything else you used to do back home.

And before long Springfield will look like this.



Of course, many AmeriKunt cities already look like that.

Which is what Marxist wreckers and their collaborators want, of course.

Case in point.

[PAF]

If I went down to the lake and shot a few geese and took them home to eat, I'd get arrested.

To legally take geese, they must be in season, you must have a valid hunting license, you must use steel shot, your shotgun must be plugged to no more than three rounds, you must do it in daylight only, you must adhere to bag limits, you must have a federal tax stamp, you must have a state tax stamp, you must wear hi vis clothing...I could go on and on.

You can not just go down to the pond and wring their necks.

Or least not if you're a chump, whitebread, AmeriKunt, like me.

Well, then, instead of taking advantage and embracing not getting licensed, stamped, and steel shot, let's get mad at them and force them to comply.

If it were me, I wouldn't say a word, and would actually cheer them on, and once precedence is set, join in with them.

This is why Amerikunts keep digging themselves deeper... "if you see something say something", including todays republicans. They won't be happy until it's a full-blown police state. They're taking the bait hook, line and sinker.