Official Vote Fraud 2024 Thread

[Philhelm]

Wow. If they concentrated them all in one district they could totally steal a mayor's office. If the town wasn't too big.

6.4 percent of almost one percent of the population. No wonder Republicans are more ate up with this than dead people voting , mail in ballots and Dominion machines combined.

Either that or the ARMSM is doing a heckofa job using it to distract MAGA from the real problems.

I don't think it's the votes they need so much as the registrations so that they can fabricate ballots.

[acptulsa]

I don't think it's the votes they need so much as the registrations so that they can fabricate ballots.

I think what they want is citizens mad enough to shoot people, and/or scared enough to beg for nationwide stop-and-frisk.

[TheCount]

I think what they want is citizens mad enough to shoot people, and/or scared enough to beg for nationwide stop-and-frisk.

Worse, the plan is to make a second cabinet level department of homeland security just for border patrol and immigration

Because the first DHS has been so great let's do it again

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/hernandoarce/status/1830951572026606002


"Voter outreach".

[Swordsmyth]

I'm sure you'll let us know if any of these actually turn out ot be illegal immigrants. In the meantime there have already been multiple stories of false positives.

There have been plenty of examples of real cases.

It's strange how some people here are so eager to support the leftist/MSM party line that it's not a problem.

[Swordsmyth]

I think what they want is citizens mad enough to shoot people, and/or scared enough to beg for nationwide stop-and-frisk.

What they want is the power to install a senile fool or dope addled airhead and tell the people they voted for it.
If they can make that work consistently they can do anything they want and tell everyone it's their neighbors' fault, they've already been doing it with the senile fool, they don't need anything more than to make sure they can continue to do it until they have entrenched their power enough to pull a Maduro or a Lula/Moraes and just dare anyone to do anything about it.
Trying to stop people from opposing their methods while we still have a chance and fantasizing that Trump is their plan to suppress votes for him speaks volumes about you.

[jmdrake]

There have been plenty of examples of real cases.

It's strange how some people here are so eager to support the leftist/MSM party line that it's not a problem.

I posted a thread about this. Maybe you missed it. Out of supposedly millions of illegal votes, so far I've only found 19 indictments for alien voting when Trump was in chrage of the DOJ. Certainly you could come up with at least a few thousand....right?

[unknown]

https://www.ssa.gov/open/havv/havv-totals-2024.html

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[acptulsa]

Trying to stop people from opposing their methods while we still have a chance and fantasizing that Trump is their plan to suppress votes for him speaks volumes about you.

Trying to discredit people who point out facts with innuendo, while fantasizing that the party which robbed Ron Paul supporters of even the chance to stand up and be counted in Tampa in '12 loves us and wants us to be happy, says even more about you.

[Swordsmyth]

I posted a thread about this. Maybe you missed it. Out of supposedly millions of illegal votes, so far I've only found 19 indictments for alien voting when Trump was in chrage of the DOJ. Certainly you could come up with at least a few thousand....right?

Feigning ignorance won't help you when there are already examples in this very thread:

WOW! OVER 10,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS USED THE SAME SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER TO VOTE IN 2020 IN ARIZONA!

Congress knew this & certified the results anyway.

Share to make this GO VIRAL & MAKE SURE TO Sign the petition in the link in my bio to DEMAND OUR ELECTIONS BE SECURED! pic.twitter.com/iUNcNhM5zE

— Carter Hughes (@itscarterhughes) August 17, 2024

https://twitter.com/itscarterhughes/...82640639427003


In 2014, the academic journal Electoral Studiespublished a groundbreaking study by three scholars who estimated how frequently non-citizens were illegally voting. Based on data for the 2008 presidential and congressional elections, the study found that:

• “roughly one quarter of non-citizens” in the U.S. “were likely registered to vote.”
• “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”
• 81.8% of them “reported voting for Barack Obama.”
• illegal votes cast by non-citizens “likely” changed “important election outcomes” in favor of Democrats, “including Electoral College votes” and a “pivotal” U.S. Senate race that enabled Democrats to pass Obamacare.

The study’s voter registration rate was estimated with data from two key sources:

1. A national survey in which 14.8% of non-citizens admitted that they were registered to vote.
2. A database of registered voters that reveals what portion of the surveyed non-citizens “were in fact registered” even though “they claimed not to be registered.”

By combining these data, the author’s “best” estimate was that 25.1% of non-citizens were illegally registered to vote.
The authors calculated voter turnout with the same datasets, but their methodology yielded a best estimate that 6.4% of non-citizens voted in 2008—lower than the 8.0% of non-citizens who stated “I definitely voted” and explicitly named the candidate they voted for. This and other matters led Just Facts to engage in extensive correspondence with the lead author of the study to verify practically every detail of it.
Just Facts then conducted a comparable study that used the same datasets, a more straightforward methodology, and related studies to constrain assumptions. This found that roughly 27% of non-citizens were registered to vote and about 16% of them voted in the 2008 national elections.

More at: https://www.justfacts.com/news_non-c...r_registration


And the establishment and their useful idiots wouldn't be so desperate to squash any discussion of this if it weren't true.

[Swordsmyth]

Duplicate

[Swordsmyth]

And we see again that some people can't help but do a choral reading of the DNC talking points right along with the MSM:

Make no mistake: if illegal voting favored Republicans, the Left would crack down on it faster than a fat kid eats cake.
But it doesn't, so it's not a problem.
Republicans noticing that illegal voting happens, however, is.

Illegal voting by noncitizens is rare, yet Republicans are making it a major issue this election https://t.co/ZaCMOefegV
— The Associated Press (@AP) September 3, 2024

More from the water carriers at AP:

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, said this past week that more than 6,500 potential noncitizens have been removed from Texas voter rolls since 2021, including 1,930 with “a voter history” who have been referred for investigation by the attorney general’s office. Texas has almost 18 million registered voters.
Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican, said in August that he referred for potential prosecution 138 apparent noncitizens found to have voted in a recent election and 459 more who registered but did not vote. Those figures were higher than reviews from previous years but a small fraction of the more than 8 million registered voters in Ohio.
Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen, a Republican, recently announced that 3,251 people previously identified as noncitizens by the federal government are being switched to inactive status on the state’s voter registration rolls. They will be required to provide proof of citizenship and fill out a form to vote in November. Alabama has more than 3 million registered voters.

These are the ones who were caught. How many haven't been caught?

If the voter laws are purposely designed to make it impossible to prove voter fraud, how do you know it's "rare"?
— Cynical Publius (@CynicalPublius) September 3, 2024

BECAUSE THEY SAY SO!

Non-citizen voters were removed from the rolls/moved to inactive status in Alabama, Ohio, Texas, Virginia, etc.

What do you mean rare? ��
— Julia ���� (@Jules31415) September 3, 2024

They hope by saying 'rare' that people will ignore it.

... oh its gone from Illegal aliens never vote now to "rare" ... within the space of a month or two.

By "rare," you actually mean more common than you're comfortable admitting because it would give leverage to the Republican's bill.
— Redneck Rogue Elf, �� Whisperer (@TheRogue_Elf) September 3, 2024

This is how the process always goes:

1. That thing isn't happening.
2. It's happening, but it's rare, and talking about it is a conspiracy theory.
3. It's happening, it's widespread, and it's a good thing.

We're at Step 2.

It's supposed to be nonexistent, you ridiculous clowns.
— Physics Geek (@physicsgeek) September 3, 2024

We were told illegal immigrants are upstanding folks and don't break laws! Whoops.

So "rare" that one party open encourages and supports it.
— JWF (@JammieWF) September 3, 2024

Because it benefits them.

“Rare” is not “zero.”

And until it is zero, it’s a major issue. https://t.co/zCKWPVbXtR
— RBe (@RBPundit) September 3, 2024

Yep.

Oh so it isn't a conspiracy theory now? https://t.co/0fS7Eh2dJw
— alexandriabrown (@alexthechick) September 3, 2024

And -- as always -- today's 'conspiracy theory' is tomorrow's verified fact.

"Having your vote stolen by an illegal alien is rare, yet Republicans are making it a major issue this election."#FIFY

* P.S. it's swell that everybody finally agrees it's happening, but nobody knows how "rare" it is because our elections are unaudited https://t.co/tNbpKpbjHj
— Cruadin (@cruadin) September 3, 2024

Yep.
By on purpose.

Illegal voting by noncitizens should be non-existent, and all it would take is a photo ID requirements.

But in tight races that’s not what open-borders Democrats want. https://t.co/98HV7bYsDG
— Sunny (@sunnyright) September 3, 2024

Exactly. Democrats want the fraud.

If it's such a non-issue why are states like Virginia purging their voter rolls of thousands of illegal voters?

Not to mention, if it's really not happening why fight against legislation anyway? Easy peasy, just pass it, no harm no foul, right? https://t.co/wxobpHlzBt
— The��FOO (@PolitiBunny) September 3, 2024

Lynching is rare, but the Emmett Till Antilynching Act was signed in 2022.

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/...ounce-n2400470

[Swordsmyth]

Trying to discredit people who point out facts with innuendo, while fantasizing that the party which robbed Ron Paul supporters of even the chance to stand up and be counted in Tampa in '12 loves us and wants us to be happy, says even more about you.

Fantasize on.

[jmdrake]

Feigning ignorance won't help you when there are already examples in this very thread:

WOW! OVER 10,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS USED THE SAME SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER TO VOTE IN 2020 IN ARIZONA!

Congress knew this & certified the results anyway.

Share to make this GO VIRAL & MAKE SURE TO Sign the petition in the link in my bio to DEMAND OUR ELECTIONS BE SECURED! pic.twitter.com/iUNcNhM5zE

— Carter Hughes (@itscarterhughes) August 17, 2024

https://twitter.com/itscarterhughes/...82640639427003


In 2014, the academic journal Electoral Studiespublished a groundbreaking study by three scholars who estimated how frequently non-citizens were illegally voting. Based on data for the 2008 presidential and congressional elections, the study found that:

• “roughly one quarter of non-citizens” in the U.S. “were likely registered to vote.”
• “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”
• 81.8% of them “reported voting for Barack Obama.”
• illegal votes cast by non-citizens “likely” changed “important election outcomes” in favor of Democrats, “including Electoral College votes” and a “pivotal” U.S. Senate race that enabled Democrats to pass Obamacare.

The study’s voter registration rate was estimated with data from two key sources:

1. A national survey in which 14.8% of non-citizens admitted that they were registered to vote.
2. A database of registered voters that reveals what portion of the surveyed non-citizens “were in fact registered” even though “they claimed not to be registered.”

By combining these data, the author’s “best” estimate was that 25.1% of non-citizens were illegally registered to vote.
The authors calculated voter turnout with the same datasets, but their methodology yielded a best estimate that 6.4% of non-citizens voted in 2008—lower than the 8.0% of non-citizens who stated “I definitely voted” and explicitly named the candidate they voted for. This and other matters led Just Facts to engage in extensive correspondence with the lead author of the study to verify practically every detail of it.
Just Facts then conducted a comparable study that used the same datasets, a more straightforward methodology, and related studies to constrain assumptions. This found that roughly 27% of non-citizens were registered to vote and about 16% of them voted in the 2008 national elections.

More at: https://www.justfacts.com/news_non-c...r_registration


And the establishment and their useful idiots wouldn't be so desperate to squash any discussion of this if it weren't true.

Okay. Those are the claims being made. So far those claims haven't been proven in a court of law. So they're just that....claims. But I guess these TRUMP APPOINTED FEDERAL PROSECUTORS WHO ARE STILL IN OFFICE IN 2024 just don't give a shyt right?

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1831319886557306914

[Brian4Liberty]

And we see again that some people can't help but do a choral reading of the DNC talking points right along with the MSM:

Make no mistake: if illegal voting favored Republicans, the Left would crack down on it faster than a fat kid eats cake.
...

My personal hypothesis is that the establishment GOP also cheats, mostly in primaries, thus they don't want to explore voter fraud either.

[acptulsa]

Make no mistake: if illegal voting favored Republicans, the Left would crack down on it faster than a fat kid eats cake.
But it doesn't, so it's not a problem.

And neither do Republican politicians, so it obviously isn't a problem to them either. Oh, a handful try, but Trump and the big, beautiful Door in his big, beautiful Wall, with his promises of citizenship for college graduates, never did and if you believe half his promises, never will.

So who is it that's really living in a fantasy world?

But I guess these TRUMP APPOINTED FEDERAL PROSECUTORS WHO ARE STILL IN OFFICE IN 2024 just don't give a shyt right?

Trump rewards loyalty above all, last I heard.

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1831262914445250871

[Swordsmyth]

Okay. Those are the claims being made. So far those claims haven't been proven in a court of law. So they're just that....claims. But I guess these TRUMP APPOINTED FEDERAL PROSECUTORS WHO ARE STILL IN OFFICE IN 2024 just don't give a shyt right?

They are under the thumb of the deepstate controlled DoJ run by the permanent leftist bureaucracy.

[Swordsmyth]

And neither do Republican politicians, so it obviously isn't a problem to them either. Oh, a handful try, but Trump and the big, beautiful Door in his big, beautiful Wall, with his promises of citizenship for college graduates, never did and if you believe half his promises, never will.

So who is it that's really living in a fantasy world?



Trump rewards loyalty above all, last I heard.

Bunk, Trump tried repeatedly and was thwarted at every turn by the uniparty.

[Swordsmyth]

Okay. Those are the claims being made. So far those claims haven't been proven in a court of law. So they're just that....claims. But I guess these TRUMP APPOINTED FEDERAL PROSECUTORS WHO ARE STILL IN OFFICE IN 2024 just don't give a shyt right?

And your attempt to require the impossible of thousands of convictions when the law and the bureaucracy are set up to make it impossible to get that is obvious.
Do you think that the illegals voting or being used as identities for fake ballots just hang out at the vacant lots and other bogus addresses they register them at and freely admit to being the person illegally voting with a stolen Social Security number?

This is the kind of crime you have to proactively prevent with things like voter ID and purging the registry because it is so hard to prosecute.

[acptulsa]

They are under the thumb of the deepstate controlled DoJ run by the permanent leftist bureaucracy.

And Trump had four years to drain that swamp and...

Didn't.

And now he has stated that he wants to reward a certain DOJ division called the FBI with a big, beautiful new building...

Bunk, Trump tried repeatedly and was thwarted at every turn by the uniparty.

How many times do I have to tell you that an incompetent is of no more use to me than a deep state tool is? In terms of results, they amount to the same thing.

You keep telling us to reinstall him to do things he didn't do before because he can't do them. My answer to you is still no. Get over it.

[Swordsmyth]

And Trump had four years to drain that swamp and...

Didn't.

And now he has stated that he wants to reward a certain DOJ division called the FBI with a big, beautiful new building...



How many times do I have to tell you that an incompetent is of no more use to me than a deep state tool is? In terms of results, they amount to the same thing.

You keep telling us to reinstall him to do things he didn't do before because he can't do them. My answer to you is still no. Get over it.

It's not incompetence to achieve as much as he did with the deck so heavily stacked against him, pretending he could have waved a wand and achieved perfection is just dumb.

[jmdrake]

And your attempt to require the impossible of thousands of convictions when the law and the bureaucracy are set up to make it impossible to get that is obvious.

That pain you have in your back if from all of your mental gynmantics. And the feigned indignation is dishhonest. The truth is that you have zero really prove of millions of illegal alliens voting. I've already given you evidence to prove that at least some of those supposed illegal immigrant voters are white people born in America to American parents and are simply on somebody's illegal immigrant list by mistake. Others are naturalized citizens and are on an illegal immigrant list by mistake. And yes, so far, I've come up with a handful of actual illegal immigrant voters. You haven't come up with any at all. That's what's "obvious." I did the same thing that Tucker Carlson did with Sydney Powell which is demand actual evidence to support a claim. She couldn't because her claims were BS. I'm not calling this one BS yet but it's certainly unproven that illegal immigrants voted in any federal election in significant numbers. Now, we have several state AGs who've come up with lists of thousands of potential illegal immigrant voters. We'll see any of those attorney generals can prove that even hundreds of those thousands of potential illegal immigrant voters are really illegal votes. The Alabama list is about 3,000. The popuation of the U.S. is 67 times that of Alabama so that extrapolates to 210,000 possible illegal voters nationwide if those numbers hold from state to state. That's not even close to 1 milllion let alone 3 million. And again, the Alabama number has already been proven to have false positives. The Federal DA for the Northern District of Alabama is still a Trump appointee so there is no reason at all to expect she will drag her feet if there's any real prosecutions to be done. A year from now, if there's not more than 100 prosecutions coming out of Alabama, I'm calling BS on this story just like Tucker Carlson called BS on Sydney Powell's claims that the election was stolen from Trump.

[jmdrake]

It's not incompetence to achieve as much as he did with the deck so heavily stacked against him, pretending he could have waved a wand and achieved perfection is just dumb.

He appointed 84 Federal prosecutors, some of whom are still serving, and they went through the same Senate confirmation process as his federal judge appointees that you fawn over. On this issue the deck is not stacked against him.

[Swordsmyth]

That pain you have in your back if from all of your mental gynmantics. And the feigned indignation is dishhonest. The truth is that you have zero really prove of millions of illegal alliens voting. I've already given you evidence to prove that at least some of those supposed illegal immigrant voters are white people born in America to American parents and are simply on somebody's illegal immigrant list by mistake. Others are naturalized citizens and are on an illegal immigrant list by mistake. And yes, so far, I've come up with a handful of actual illegal immigrant voters. You haven't come up with any at all. That's what's "obvious." I did the same thing that Tucker Carlson did with Sydney Powell which is demand actual evidence to support a claim. She couldn't because her claims were BS. I'm not calling this one BS yet but it's certainly unproven that illegal immigrants voted in any federal election in significant numbers. Now, we have several state AGs who've come up with lists of thousands of potential illegal immigrant voters. We'll see any of those attorney generals can prove that even hundreds of those thousands of potential illegal immigrant voters are really illegal votes. The Alabama list is about 3,000. The popuation of the U.S. is 67 times that of Alabama so that extrapolates to 210,000 possible illegal voters nationwide if those numbers hold from state to state. That's not even close to 1 milllion let alone 3 million. And again, the Alabama number has already been proven to have false positives. The Federal DA for the Northern District of Alabama is still a Trump appointee so there is no reason at all to expect she will drag her feet if there's any real prosecutions to be done. A year from now, if there's not more than 100 prosecutions coming out of Alabama, I'm calling BS on this story just like Tucker Carlson called BS on Sydney Powell's claims that the election was stolen from Trump.

Now you're just lying, or you can't read:

81.8% of them “reported voting for Barack Obama.”
More at: https://www.justfacts.com/news_non-c...r_registration


The illegals they talked to when finding thousands of them to have voted said they voted.

Not to mention that thousands of people can't have the exact same Social Security number.

We have even more proof 2020 was stolen, you are defending the election fraud and gaslighting us about it.

[Anti Federalist]

https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1831830529169354860

https://x.com/i/status/1769883941878571505

[James_Madison_Lives]

Anybody can buy the DVD of registered active and inactive voters in Michigan or any other state and count for themselves. The number of actual qualified, voting age adults is likely to be even lower because "voting age adults" also counts legal and illegal adults who were counted by the US census.


https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/...uding-detroit/

"It is already unheard of for a county to have 100% of voting-age residents even registered to vote, much less be listed as active voters. In a lawsuit filed by the Republican National Committee against Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson in March 2024, 53 counties in Michigan have more active registered voters than they do voting age population.

The average state has an inactive registered voter rate of about 10 percent, with some states running as high as 20 percent.

Michigan is a vital do-or-die swing state in the 2024 presidential election.

The counties according to the complaint are:

Alcona (112%), Allegan (104%), Alpena (101%),
Antrim (111%), Arenac (104%), Barry (102%), Benzie (108%), Berrien (102%), Calhoun (101%), Cass (101%), Charlevoix (105%), Cheboygan (104%), Crawford, (110%), Delta (104%), Dickinson (100%), Emmet (104%), Genesee (104%), Gladwin, (103%), Gogebic (101%), Grand Traverse (101%), Huron (100%), Iosco (104%), Iron (106%), Kalkaska (115%), Kent (100%), Keweenaw (114%), Lapeer (102%), Leelanau
(108%), Livingston (102%), Mackinac (114%), Macomb (101%), Mason (104%), Menominee (101%), Missaukee (106%), Monroe (100%), Montmorency (110%), Muskegon (101%), Newaygo (103%), Oakland (101%), Oceana (105%), Ogemaw (106%), Ontonagon (101%), Osceola (101%), Oscoda (110%), Otsego (111%), Presque Isle (107%), Roscommon (110%), Schoolcraft (107%), Shiawassee (102%), St. Clair
(102%), Van Buren (104%), Wayne (101%), and Wexford (105%).

Michigan registered voter lists, as is traditional in all states, are available on DVD.

The huge vote pool of Wayne County, which Detroit is located in, shows 101% of its voting-age population as an active, registered voters.

Compliant: REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE, JORDAN JORRITSMA, and EMERSON SILVERNAIL v.
JOCELYN BENSON, Case No. 1:24-cv-00262

In an attempted June 2024 “fact check” designed to rebut the allegation, USA Today responds:

““Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson called it a “PR campaign masquerading as a meritless lawsuit.” A similar lawsuit was dismissed in March.”

This is no “debunk” whatsoever, since the assertion of one of the sued parties that the allegations are false is not a refutation.

MI is where Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson directed election workers to “presume” all signatures on mail-in ballots were valid in 2020, an order which was struck down by Michigan courts. Nevertheless, Benson has just ignored the ruling and issued the same guidance again for 2024. So now election workers following the guidance could be criminally liable for breaking the law.

Detroit News:

“Before the 2020 election, Benson directed local clerks to presume the signatures on absentee ballot applications and ballots were valid and to further accept the signatures as valid if they contained “any redeeming qualities.”

”The Center for Election Confidence fought this attempt to change, last-minute, Michigan’s election law. The Michigan courts agreed later that the guidance was invalid. Despite this, the Benson issued the same direction again to local clerks for the 2024 election, contrary to previous court rulings and in violation of state law. The RNC has brought suit, seeking to enforce the law and previous court rulings. “”

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1832826005334986895

[Matt4Liberty]

Michigan is now fully under communist control. Now that they have it, they aren't relinquishing control. The Republicans fully cucked to Whitmer, Benson and Vessel even though they controlled both the Michigan legislature and most state courts including the Michigan Supreme Court. I have no expectations of anything changing.

I recently returned to the state with my new family to be close to family. In Michigan, the secretary of state also runs what's basically the DMV in the state. The previous Republican Ruth Johnson did an amazing job of streamlining operations. It was getting to the point you were forgetting that it was a government department. Convenient hours, some even open on the weekends.

Today you need an appointment for the privilege of waiting in line for an hour. No signs of less staff, but for sure less efficiency. No more texts estimating your place in line, etc...

Now assume what she does with elections.