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    Post Trump says Elon Musk will head audit of 'entire federal government'

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    I bet he'll audit EPA first heh
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    From the other thread:


    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This would make a great thread.

    What do the words don't trust have anything to do with with being libertarian or anti-libertarian?


    Bill Gates, Miriam Adelson, Tom Steyer, George Soros, Peter Thiel... Donald Trump who has donated to many democrats including Hillary Clinton, Charlie Rangel, Kamala Harris TWICE, etc.......

    and now ELON MUSK who has enough F&CK YOU MONEY that he doesn't have a thing to worry about, yet is being heralded as the next beloved billionaire involved with TrumpPolitics.


    So I ask, what does don't trust have anything to do with being libertarian or anti-libertarian? I'm confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    From the other thread:
    I still don't get why you hate Elon. If you were Elon would you turn down an opportunity to rewrite regulations to your company's favor? I sure as heck wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I still don't get why you hate Elon. If you were Elon would you turn down an opportunity to rewrite regulations to your company's favor? I sure as heck wouldn't.
    Because:


    President Biden has long vowed to build 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations in the United States by 2030.

    But now, more than two years after Congress allocated $7.5 billion to help build out those stations, only 7 EV charging stations are operational across four states.



    I'm sure he and Trump will pull another OWS out of thin air for the electric car business and the repubs will love them for it.
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    i just got a flag on my x for "manipulating the platform"

    just reading the news

    I DONT TRUST THIS MOTHER F U C KE R ANYWHERE NEAR MY "GUBBERMINT"
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Electric cars were and would be subsidized with or without Elon, I still don't get it.

    And to the extent that he did lobby for any subsidies... he's a businessman, it'd be stupid not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    i just got a flag on my x for "manipulating the platform"

    just reading the news

    I DONT TRUST THIS MOTHER F U C KE R ANYWHERE NEAR MY "GUBBERMINT"
    It's like 100x better than it was before he took over. I'm sure Twitter still has a large remnant of leftists in its employ, and I can't fault Elon for having better things to do than to micro manage X
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Electric cars were and would be subsidized with or without Elon, I still don't get it.

    And to the extent that he did lobby for any subsidies... he's a businessman, it'd be stupid not to.

    I hereby secede from your thought process, brother ;-)


    Yeah, it would be stoopid for Musk not to want to take advantage. But it's even more stoopid for the tax-payers to make 'scuses for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    It's like 100x better than it was before he took over. I'm sure Twitter still has a large remnant of leftists in its employ, and I can't fault Elon for having better things to do than to micro manage X
    respectfully
    your missing the point

    his $#@! DOESNT work


    even the trucks are LITTERALY falling apart
    ive been banned from x 3 times and now have a red flag on my account, well, i *did*. im out, its a tarp

    head of efficiency?

    ok
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Oooo. He’s draining the swamp again people. Then when he gets in office he’ll get sidetracked and start draining his lizard all over his voters..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    respectfully
    your missing the point

    his $#@! DOESNT work


    even the trucks are LITTERALY falling apart
    ive been banned from x 3 times and now have a red flag on my account, well, i *did*. im out, its a tarp

    head of efficiency?

    ok
    Shrug. I don't know anything about electric cars but I do know he revolutionized the space industry
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I hereby secede from your thought process, brother ;-)


    Yeah, it would be stoopid for Musk not to want to take advantage. But it's even more stoopid for the tax-payers to make 'scuses for it.
    The way I look at it is this, nearly everybody in this country sends more to Uncle Sam than they can ever get back. So, get what you can back in whatever form you can.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Shrug. I don't know anything about electric cars but I do know he revolutionized the space industry
    Oh yeah, I forgot about that one... Trump's brand new U.S. Space Force. Isn't that tax-payer funded too? Think Elon might branch out just a little bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The way I look at it is this, nearly everybody in this country sends more to Uncle Sam than they can ever get back. So, get what you can back in whatever form you can.
    I have a good friend down in Tennessee who campaigned for Ron Paul with me. We still keep in touch. The latest from him is, he turned 3rd Positionist because he believes that's the only way out of this mess. IOW: let the corporations run the government run the slaves.

    That's pretty much the way that it is now, so why not go all out?
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    I fully expect the audit to cost a trillion. And don't expect anyone to audit the audit.



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    Wasn't Musk on Trump's unofficial cabinet last time or something before getting out of it?
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    Musk?

    Ron Paul bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Wasn't Musk on Trump's unofficial cabinet last time or something before getting out of it?
    He was on Trump's Strategic and Policy Forum which included several different CEOs who advised the president on the economy.

    https://www.newsweek.com/timeline-el...-trump-1701130

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot about that one... Trump's brand new U.S. Space Force. Isn't that tax-payer funded too? Think Elon might branch out just a little bit?
    Not as tax-payer funded as you might think. The majority of SpaceX launches and the majority of its revenue comes from Starlink.

    The private space launch industry didn't even exist before Elon and his company is less reliant on government revenue than its ever been.

    Pretty impressive I would say for basically inventing an entire new industry.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Not as tax-payer funded as you might think. The majority of SpaceX launches and the majority of its revenue comes from Starlink.

    The private space launch industry didn't even exist before Elon and his company is less reliant on government revenue than its ever been.

    Pretty impressive I would say for basically inventing an entire new industry.
    Yep, I understand that and have no problem with that. But as you know, anybody and everybody who gets involved with government and/or takes positions within always leads to bigger government and eventual abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    respectfully
    your missing the point

    his $#@! DOESNT work


    even the trucks are LITTERALY falling apart
    ive been banned from x 3 times and now have a red flag on my account, well, i *did*. im out, its a tarp

    head of efficiency?

    ok
    Trucks? You call this ugly monstrosity a truck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trucks? You call this ugly monstrosity a truck?

    it has problems and potential
    the doors cutting people sucks
    the a$$ falling off of them sucks

    Styling its very tron, i like it, but it could be executed better...heres an https://up.fit/archimedes/up fit of them
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post

    Is there a source link for that? Can you post it please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The private space launch industry didn't even exist before Elon and his company is less reliant on government revenue than its ever been.

    Pretty impressive I would say for basically inventing an entire new industry.
    Government invented the communications satellite. First they had a monopoly on putting them in orbit, then they maintained a monopoly. Now Musk is allowed to do it.

    He's in bed with somebody. Allowed to privatize satellite delivery and in the golf cart business just as the big electrification push happens? He's very, very connected.

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    This actually irks me. What about those people who’ve tried over the years to make serious attempts to shut down entire departments, audit the fed and the pentagon, and written entire budgets/plans to bring down the debt? Why no respect for them?!

    Of course, I’m referring to Rand Paul, Ron Paul and Massie. Not only do they know better where the problems lie - they are more knowledgable about how the government ought to function while making this happen, and how to head off any reoccurrence - whereas Elon Musk would just be winging it with his personal opinions.

    Trump has been going on and on about what a genius Musk is, yet that clown voted for Barack Obama! He fell hook, line and sinker for that phony sack of $#@! conman. How much of a genius can he be?

    Musk has done some good things, but I think his intelligence is way overrated. Yeah, he’s smart, but he’s also fortunate. He’s no pinnacle of wisdom.

    I can see including Musk in such a group, but making him the head of it? No! That’s insulting to people with better ideas and more knowledge, who’ve been trudging the slow, thankless road to making things right for many, many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Government invented the communications satellite. First they had a monopoly on putting them in orbit, then they maintained a monopoly. Now Musk is allowed to do it.

    He's in bed with somebody. Allowed to privatize satellite delivery and in the golf cart business just as the big electrification push happens? He's very, very connected.
    It's no secret conspiracy, Musk is allowed to do it because NASA's space program has been in shambles from mismanagement as you would expect from any government agency. They can barely even send rockets into orbit at all these days.

    SpaceX is a private enterprise success story. Elon took a lot of risks with his own money to get SpaceX to where it is today. If his Falcon had failed to get into orbit there would be no SpaceX, no matter how "in bed" you think he is or was at the time.

    As a further point, where do you think the motivation for reusable rockets came from? It sure as $#@! wasn't the government's idea. The government loves wasting countless millions and turning it into orbiting space trash.

    It was Elon's genius, ambition, and sheer determination that made reusable rockets a reality. Government had absolutely nothing to do with that $#@!. Government would have been - and still is - perfectly happy with single use launches. They love wasting money on that $#@! even today.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 09-06-2024 at 12:13 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    It's no secret conspiracy, Musk is allowed to do it because NASA's space program has been in shambles from mismanagement as you would expect from any government agency. They can barely even send rockets into orbit at all these days.

    SpaceX is a private enterprise success story. Elon took a lot of risks with his own money to get SpaceX to where it is today. If his Falcon had failed to get into orbit there would be no SpaceX, no matter how "in bed" you think he is or was at the time.
    All true enough. Doesn't change the fact that he's very connected.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    As a further point, where do you think the motivation for reusable rockets came from? It sure as $#@! wasn't the government's idea. The government loves wasting countless millions and turning it into orbiting space trash.

    It was Elon's genius, ambition, and sheer determination that made reusable rockets a reality. Government had absolutely nothing to do with that $#@!. Government would have been - and still is - perfectly happy with single use launches. They love wasting money on that $#@! even when SpaceX options are cheaper and more effective. (e.g., SLS, or most of the Artemis missions)
    The government reused shuttles. They reused the boosters, too -- a couple of them once too often.

    Landing under power, sitting down on its tail, has been the dream since the 1940s. Technology only just caught up to the idea, and Musk's team got to do the home stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    It was Elon's genius, ambition, and sheer determination
    and his very large and fortunate money supply
    that made reusable rockets a reality.
    Not that there's anything wrong with that! It's just that genius, ambition, and sheer determination are nothing without all that money and lots of good luck. Money does not necessarily equal genius.

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