GA - Four confirmed dead in school shooting

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1832107695723471311

[jmdrake]

Maybe ask your fellow Democrats/Liberals who seem to only care either pushing full citizenship to illegal aliens or they talk about "reparations" from whites to African Americans over what? slavery from 200 years ago?

Why are you bringing up reperations when that isn't the topic? And I'm not a Democrat so you're just being ridiculous. How many liberal democrats support arming teachers? Back on reaprations since you brought that up. Nazi companies Ford and GM got reprations as a reward for their treason in Wolrd War 2. Japanese Americans got reperations for internment camps that actually had some justification considering that there were Japanese civilian spies who scouted out Pearl Harbor. And yet black people who survived the Tusla massacre can't get reparations when they are still alive?. So no. Reparations aren't simply about money for slavery for people who weren't slaves. That's a red herring.

Back to the topic at hand. What is your actual plan? Do you have one? Or is this just a talking point? Are you planning on screening every potential mass shooter and locking them up ahead of time pre-crime style? Make sure they're all properly medicated? Which medicane? Some meidcations can cause some people (young men in particular) to become suicidal and/or homicidal. Hey, I know. We'll just take their guns away once the government has property screened them. Oh wait. That's going to cover a lot of vets with PTSD. Like the PTSD vet that Chris Kyle took to the gun range for "shooting therapy" only to be shot and killed by him. (That vet killed only killed two people so it wasn't a mass shooting).

Really, while making sure mental health available is a good thing in general, it's got nothing to do with stopping mass shootings unless you're willing to actually start violating the civil rights of the people that you think might do a mass shooting. No amount of counseling or thearpy or meds can guarantee that someone who really has mental health issues won't turn violent. I know. I have a sibling that works as a mental health nurse and a relative with mental health problems. People with violent mental health issues are like people with cancer. The best you can say is "They're in remission." What can stop mass shootings at the places people actually care about? Hardening tragets and shortening response times. The Uvalde shooter was given 4 hours to kill as many kids as he wanted to. The Nashville shooter was dead 7 minutes from the time the 911 call was placed. The Ulvalde shooter was able to get into a side door that had been propped open for reasons I don't know. The Nashville shooter shot her way in through the glass front doors. Simply putting shatter resistant film on the doors would have slowed her down long enough that the police might have gotten there before she made her way inside.

[Anti Federalist]

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1832107695723471311

[Anti Federalist]

Really, while making sure mental health available is a good thing in general, it's got nothing to do with stopping mass shootings unless you're willing to actually start violating the civil rights of the people that you think might do a mass shooting. No amount of counseling or thearpy or meds can guarantee that someone who really has mental health issues won't turn violent. I know. I have a sibling that works as a mental health nurse and a relative with mental health problems. People with violent mental health issues are like people with cancer. The best you can say is "They're in remission." What can stop mass shootings at the places people actually care about? Hardening tragets and shortening response times. The Uvalde shooter was given 4 hours to kill as many kids as he wanted to. The Nashville shooter was dead 7 minutes from the time the 911 call was placed. The Ulvalde shooter was able to get into a side door that had been propped open for reasons I don't know. The Nashville shooter shot her way in through the glass front doors. Simply putting shatter resistant film on the doors would have slowed her down long enough that the police might have gotten there before she made her way inside.

I know you're already in favor of this but arming adults in schools, from teachers to coaches to janitors.

When seconds count, cops are only minutes away.

[Valli6]

The father didn't say the kid is gay. He just says that other people called him gay. I remember middle school and guys were constantly calling each other h0m0s and f@gg0ts just for laughs. It was pretty ordinary behavior. People want to play up the gay angle to try and make the story more interesting.

[CaptUSA]

How come the Sec. of Education is never on the hot seat during one of these??

Imagine any other organization that kept having their people shot up... If this was Amazon and there was a mass shooting every couple of months by a person they worked with every day, I'm sure we'd have a chat with the CEO... But the Dept of Education and with KIDS, no less!! Not a peep. Kids in your care during half of their waking hours come into your building and kill people on a fairly regular basis, but you get off scot-free??!

Imagine if the republicans had balls...

[Anti Federalist]

The father didn't say the kid is gay. He just says that other people called him gay. I remember middle school and guys were constantly calling each other h0m0s and f@gg0ts just for laughs. It was pretty ordinary behavior. People want to play up the gay angle to try and make the story more interesting.

Sure, I know it's the Daily Fail, but if that quote is accurate the father said the kids said "Oh look, he's dating that guy".

Sounds pretty queeer to me.

Time will tell I suppose...if this story gets memory holed suddenly than you can be pretty sure, he was another violent weirdosexual.

[acptulsa]

[jmdrake]

I know you're already in favor of this but arming adults in schools, from teachers to coaches to janitors.

When seconds count, cops are only minutes away.

You are, of course, 100% correct. But I keep running into people who reflexively think "More guns in the school equals more crime." I seriously heard someone I know say that. I had a elderly cousin who back in the 1950s when she taught high school would put her pistol on her desk every day. I have another cousin who recently retired as a principal who got the FBI civilian training and took a gun to school and hired military vets to work as janitors or cooks and secretly double as school security. And when I bring this up with members of my family who can't see the "arm the teachers" argument, they say "But that's differnt. I trust so and so." Okay. So you trust random strangers to have access to your children were, if they're really evil, they could molest them or stab them to death with a school kitchen knife, but heaven forbid they actually have a means to stop a mass shooting because you don't trust them? SMH.

[jmdrake]

Sure, I know it's the Daily Fail, but if that quote is accurate the father said the kids said "Oh look, he's dating that guy".

Sounds pretty queeer to me.

Time will tell I suppose...if this story gets memory holed suddenly than you can be pretty sure, he was another violent weirdosexual.

Okay. Let's assume for a minute he's gay. And? He didn't shoot people because he's gay. He shot people because he was bullied. I recently posted a story of parents suing the Chelsae Alabama high school because their son committed suicide because he was buillied. The parents asked prior to the suicide to allow remote education and were denied. Someone should have at least told them that free homeschooling was an option. Anyway, being bullied seems to be a pattern in a lot of these school shootings. I was bullied at the private Christian boarding acadaemy I went to. You couldn't put a Van Halen poster on your dorm wall because "rock music is of the devil", but one kid had a KKK cartoon on the wall. I still remember it. I could probably sktech it out and that's over 30 years ago. And no that's nto all that happened but I don't feel like reliving that crap. The bullying only stopped several years later when some freshmen, the normal targets of the bullying, decided to fight back and let it be known that the would. So finally the boys dean, who had before say this as all "fun and games" made it clear that it would no longer be tollerated and just like that it stopped. Of course you can't stop everything. The bullying I experienced was physical. Kids are now deleting themselves, and others, over words. In some cases the words are posted online. I'm not sure what the answer to that is. The private academy I went to was small. Maybe 120 to 160 kids max. The boys dean could stop the physical bullying with just a word. I'm not sure what you do with the modern mini-city high schools with thousands of students jammed in them.

[Anti Federalist]

Okay. Let's assume for a minute he's gay. And? He didn't shoot people because he's gay. He shot people because he was bullied. I recently posted a story of parents suing the Chelsae Alabama high school because their son committed suicide because he was buillied. The parents asked prior to the suicide to allow remote education and were denied. Someone should have at least told them that free homeschooling was an option. Anyway, being bullied seems to be a pattern in a lot of these school shootings. I was bullied at the private Christian boarding acadaemy I went to. You couldn't put a Van Halen poster on your dorm wall because "rock music is of the devil", but one kid had a KKK cartoon on the wall. I still remember it. I could probably sktech it out and that's over 30 years ago. And no that's nto all that happened but I don't feel like reliving that crap. The bullying only stopped several years later when some freshmen, the normal targets of the bullying, decided to fight back and let it be known that the would. So finally the boys dean, who had before say this as all "fun and games" made it clear that it would no longer be tollerated and just like that it stopped. Of course you can't stop everything. The bullying I experienced was physical. Kids are now deleting themselves, and others, over words. In some cases the words are posted online. I'm not sure what the answer to that is. The private academy I went to was small. Maybe 120 to 160 kids max. The boys dean could stop the physical bullying with just a word. I'm not sure what you do with the modern mini-city high schools with thousands of students jammed in them.

Physically bullied?

I was almost murdered on two occasions, in addition to getting bullied on a daily basis, at the all black high school I went to for two years until, essentially, running away from home and going to sea.

The solution, as is usually the case, is simple, but nobody has the stomach for it because it is too "harsh".

1 - Homeschooling above all.

2 - Small, segregated, by race and sex, schools for those who can not homeschool. This is to include teachers as well, especially in the male academies, where they are to be uniformed and physically fit.

3 - Treatment of weirdosexualism as the dangerous mental illness it is.

4 - Students taking SSRIs are prohibited from attending.

Okay. Let's assume for a minute he's gay. And? He didn't shoot people because he's gay. He shot people because he was bullied

Lots of people get bullied for lots of reasons.

I think the difference is that the weirdosexuals are telling each other that's it's perfectly OK to go slaughter the "cis gender scum" when it happens to them.

[Valli6]

"Oh look, he's dating that guy".

The father referred only to things people said to his son to antagonize him. If they accused him of “dating” some friend he hung out with, that’s just a variation of calling him queeer and does not mean he was actually dating a guy or was queeer. The father himself never said, “my son is gay” or “my son has a boyfriend”. (Did he? I haven’t seen those actual words anywhere.)

I’m kind of surprised that Andy Ngo was so quick to jump to this conclusion. I thought he was much more discerning. Will remember this about Andy Ngo and numerous others I had previously considered reasonably trustworthy.

Also it’s been reported that he was angry about how transgenders are treated, but then there was some reversal saying he was mad that transgenders were too accepted. Which one is it? I don't think the father ever mentioned anything about transiness either and he's in no position to correct the record about what he actually said about his son now, is he?

And by the way, if some fellow student(s) got off on antagonizing this one kid - which is a thing I think we all know can happen - who’s to say that the statements on Discord weren’t actually posted by the same person(s) and worded to appear like it was the Gray kid in an effort to further humiliate him? What’s the explanation behind the account having a phone number associated with someone other than Gray who lives in a different town? Who was that person?

Bear in mind the kid was only 13 at the time of the interview and really hadn’t had time to establish much of a sexual history one way or the other.

Sure, it’s always possible he is gay and/or trans and he wrote all those discord comments and always planned this school shooting. I just haven’t seen any facts making any of that part clear. It’s like the media is leading us along with a bunch of maybes, but no hard facts, and everybody’s falling for it - piecing together their own stories and currently certain he shot people because he’s definitely gay or trans. The fathers reported words never stated that at all.

[Anti Federalist]

https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1832118332994007173

[Anti Federalist]

Sure, it’s always possible he is gay and/or trans and he wrote all those discord comments and always planned this school shooting. I just haven’t seen any facts making any of that part clear. It’s like the media is leading us along with a bunch of maybes, but no hard facts, and everybody’s falling for it - piecing together their own stories and currently certain he shot people because he’s definitely gay or trans. The fathers reported words never stated that at all.

Yeah, imagine that.

I have been tending to my MIL who has been in and out of hospital these last couple of days.

So I have been exposed to MSM much more than usual.

This story has been non stop on all cable news and network news for the last few days.

This is the point I was making when I said, factually, that there is limited or no coverage of a mass shooting if the shooter does not fit the agenda.

If it comes out for sure, that this kid was a weirdosexual, the coverage will cease like you flipped a switch.



That they do.

And who, exactly, is a "fascist"?

Why, anybody who's not a fagggot, of course.

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/MrColionNoir/status/1832143691072315889

[jmdrake]

Physically bullied?

I was almost murdered on two occasions, in addition to getting bullied on a daily basis, at the all black high school I went to for two years until, essentially, running away from home and going to sea.

The solution, as is usually the case, is simple, but nobody has the stomach for it because it is too "harsh".

1 - Homeschooling above all.

2 - Small, segregated, by race and sex, schools for those who can not homeschool. This is to include teachers as well, especially in the male academies, where they are to be uniformed and physically fit.

3 - Treatment of weirdosexualism as the dangerous mental illness it is.

4 - Students taking SSRIs are prohibited from attending.



Lots of people get bullied for lots of reasons.

I think the difference is that the weirdosexuals are telling each other that's it's perfectly OK to go slaughter the "cis gender scum" when it happens to them.

The freshmen kids at the "Christian" school I went to who put a stop to the bullying by threatening to fight back were white so your "solution" of segregation is BS. I have a better idea. Segregate the bullies. (As in kick them out of school). Problem solved.

[jmdrake]

https://x.com/MrColionNoir/status/1832143691072315889

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Brian4Liberty again.

[Anti Federalist]

your "solution" of segregation is BS.

Why?

Blacks perform better and graduate at significantly higher rates at HBCUs than at other, non-segregated schools.

Why would they not do better at a segregated high school or academy?

[Valli6]

Yeah, imagine that.
I have been tending to my MIL who has been in and out of hospital these last couple of days.
So I have been exposed to MSM much more than usual.
This story has been non stop on all cable news and network news for the last few days.

This is the point I was making when I said, factually, that there is limited or no coverage of a mass shooting if the shooter does not fit the agenda.
If it comes out for sure, that this kid was a weirdosexual, the coverage will cease like you flipped a switch.

That they do.
And who, exactly, is a "fascist"?
Why, anybody who's not a fagggot, of course.

Hey, I’m surprised they’re not calling him a white supremacist since the 2 kids he killed were non-white. Can’t believe no one has brought it up. (The 2 teachers he killed are white.)

Anyway, the more I read about this kid’s family, the sorrier I feel for them, even the father now. What a mess!

It seems the mother is the soul-crushing psycho of this bunch - drug addict, drunk, been in jail more than once, would lock the kids out of the house at night, found passed out in the driveway with car still running and music blaring? A neighbor says child protective services was there on a regular basis - fat lot of good they did, right? At some point, the older son (Colt) went to live with the father, and the mother still takes care of his 2 younger siblings. Yikes!

I guess the father was trying to help him find things to be interested in. Buying the gun struck me as a very bad idea at first, but then, he also tried to get him to play golf. I don’t feel there’s realistically a whole lot a parent can do for a kid who’s being bullied at school, short of letting him quit school, or moving. And everyone says the kid was just quiet - not outwardly angry.

This is just sad and I find myself resenting the media for encouraging us to hate the father over this, when there was so much else going on. How many professionals (child protective services) were involved that might have intervened on the kid’s behalf - but didn’t. Instead FBI targeted them, possibly put the idea in boy’s head, and are now exploiting them both in the name of gun control.

Georgia school shooting suspect Colt Gray’s broken homelife: A mom with multiple drug arrests and a dad who gave him an AR-15 for Christmas
By Desheania Andrews, Chris Nesi and Joe Marino
Sep. 5, 2024

WINDER, Georgia — Colt Gray, the baby-face Georgia school shooting suspect who is charged with murdering two classmates and two teachers, grew up in a broken and neglectful home, which police and child services visited on a regular basis, a former neighbor and landlord tell The Post.

His mother, Marcee, 43, has a lengthy rap sheet with drug and domestic violence arrests. And his father Colin, 54, allegedly bought his troubled son an AR-15 rifle for Christmas — and now faces charges of his own for supplying the weapon used in the shooting.

Lauren Vickers, who lived next-door to the Grays in Jefferson, Georgia, said there were “problems immediately” when the Grays and their three children moved into the well-manicured neighborhood 60 miles east of Atlanta in 2022.

“There were nights where the mom would lock him and his sister out the house. And they would be banging on the back door, just screaming like ‘Mom! mom! mom!’ and crying. It was absolutely devastating,” she said.

Vickers said that sometimes the youngest child would come to her back yard asking for food.

“No clean clothes, I’m not exaggerating.”

“It was constant abuse,” she said. “It’s very, very sad.”…

…“I would find her in the driveway, passed out, with the car running and blaring music early in the morning,” Vickers said, speaking of Marcee — whom she claims habitually abused drugs and alcohol.

“She would have taken the little one to daycare or pre-K. She was driving him like that,” she said of Gray’s younger brother.

She said Colt didn’t speak much, but that she’d often see him skipping school, wandering around the woods and in the unbuilt houses at nearby developments.

Asked to characterize Colt, Vickers said, “he wasn’t a bully or a mean kid. He didn’t say much. He was so quiet,” she said, noting that he was a classmate of her daughter, Berlin...

…Now, investigators seeking to understand the suspect’s motive are looking into his family’s previous contacts with the state’s child protective services agency, the GBI director said Wednesday.

A former landlord of the Grays, who asked his name not be used, described Marcee as “a f–k up,” while crediting the father as, “trying his best to be a stand-up guy.”

“She was locking them out in inclement weather. Freezing weather,” he said, corroborating Vickers’ account.

He said he stopped by the house to speak to Colin once neighbors started complaining.

“The neighbors reported [Marcee] was driving down the street in her car, drunk, fell out the car, with the door open and the engine running. As a landlord, I can’t tolerate this kind of behavior in a neighborhood where a tenant might be putting other children at risk,” he said,.

“I spoke to the husband and asked him, ‘do you know your children are being locked out of the house?'”

The landlord said Colin told him Marcee had been battling drug and alcohol addiction and that the couple was headed for divorce.

He then reported her to Georgia Division of Family & Children Services and removed her from the lease, leaving Colin to fend for himself until he eventually moved out on his own accord.

“I think the man really went through it. I can’t imagine he didn’t seek help for these children because they had been quite traumatized,” the landlord said.

He said although he never spoke to Colt, he got the impression that he “really wanted to be with his father.”….

https://nypost.com/2024/09/05/us-new...broken-family/

[jmdrake]

Why?

Blacks perform better and graduate at significantly higher rates at HBCUs than at other, non-segregated schools.

Why would they not do better at a segregated high school or academy?

I thought you were trying to stop school shooting? But I guess that's just a smokescreen. Got it.

[Anti Federalist]

I thought you were trying to stop school shooting? But I guess that's just a smokescreen. Got it.

I am.

Which of these people would best command the respect, demand respectful behavior (i.e. not bringing dad's pistol to school and randomly shooting people) in return and instill discipline and knowledge in young black men and boys?

This one:



Or this one:

[jmdrake]

I am.

Which of these people would best command the respect, demand respectful behavior (i.e. not bringing dad's pistol to school and randomly shooting people) in return and instill discipline and knowledge in young black men and boys?

This one:



Or this one:

That's got nothing to do with race. My kids went to an all black school K-4 and an overwhelmingly white school 5 - 12 and had good teachers both times. I think sometimes you forget I'm actually black and know what I'm talking about but okay. The black school didn't have any male teachers at all except the band teacher and the basketball coach / P.E. teacher. There are also black transgenders so it's possible to get a black transgender teacher, though not at the sort of private Christian schools I we sent our children to so your whole "tranny" argument has no relevance.

Edit: And for the record the white school my kids went to did a better job at nipping bullying in the bud than the black school, though it did improve after they left with a different principal. In reality having a good principal is a necessary and sufficient condition for having a good school.

Edit 2: But I have to ask. If the ONLY choice that YOU were given for a principal for your child's school was a black conservative Christian or a white liberal, would you still pick the white liberal? To be fair I won't say a white transgender because you already said you want segregation by sexual orientation too. Thomas Sowell verses George Stephanopolus or Bill Clinton. Those are your only options.

[Occam's Banana]

When seconds count, cops are only minutes away.

Fixed:

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away right outside your door."

NYPD reportedly stood by, failed to help Chinatown woman as homeless man stabbed her to death in her own home
NYPD "failed to gain entry to Ms. Lee’s apartment until Ms. Lee had been stabbed more than 40 times."
https://thepostmillennial.com/nypd-r...n-her-own-home
Joshua Young (20 May 2023)

[...]

And even more on-topic:

[Uvalde] TX - 21 Dead, Dozens Injured in Texas Elementary School Shooting

It just doesn't get any more "right outside your door" than what happened (or, rather, failed to happen) in Uvalde.

[Anti Federalist]

That's got nothing to do with race. My kids went to an all black school K-4 and an overwhelmingly white school 5 - 12 and had good teachers both times. I think sometimes you forget I'm actually black and know what I'm talking about but okay. The black school didn't have any male teachers at all except the band teacher and the basketball coach / P.E. teacher. There are also black transgenders so it's possible to get a black transgender teacher, though not at the sort of private Christian schools I we sent our children to so your whole "tranny" argument has no relevance.

Edit: And for the record the white school my kids went to did a better job at nipping bullying in the bud than the black school, though it did improve after they left with a different principal. In reality having a good principal is a necessary and sufficient condition for having a good school.

Edit 2: But I have to ask. If the ONLY choice that YOU were given for a principal for your child's school was a black conservative Christian or a white liberal, would you still pick the white liberal? To be fair I won't say a white transgender because you already said you want segregation by sexual orientation too. Thomas Sowell verses George Stephanopolus or Bill Clinton. Those are your only options.

Should that be at the forefront of my mind?

Ok, you disagree with me...fine.

I will continue to maintain that students in school setting do better, are better behaved, are better adjusted and become better adults if they are schooled in classes and taught by teachers that are the same as them.

[TheCount]

Okay. Let's assume for a minute he's gay. And?

He needs a cause for the shooting that is essential to the person's identity.

[dannno]

He needs a cause for the shooting that is essential to the person's identity.

Isn't the whole point of interest of someone who shot a bunch of people randomly what their motivations were and what type of circumstances caused it? Especially when those things are a largely new trend growing in popularity largely because of the institutions they are attending where these shootings are occurring?

[dannno]

[vita3]

We are a sick bunch. All of us

[jmdrake]

Should that be at the forefront of my mind?

Ok, you disagree with me...fine.

I will continue to maintain that students in school setting do better, are better behaved, are better adjusted and become better adults if they are schooled in classes and taught by teachers that are the same as them.

Should what be in the forefront of your mind? It doesn't matter anyway. Even by your own stats, blacks killing whites is rare and black kids getting a gun and coming to shoot up a school is super rare. So your whole argument about which teacher is more likely to keep a black kid from coming to shoot up a school is basically stupid beyond belief and a sign of your race obsession. To justify your obsession you highlight other shootings that have no connection with school shootings such as the mentally disturbed black man who killed 4 (most likely) homeless people on the subway. Yes that's terrible and tragic, but that's got nothing to do with someone shooting up a school. And school shootings didn't just start happening in 2024. The first school shooting that I remember was Columbine in 1999. Sure there were school shootings before that but that one really shook the national consciousness. But you don't count that shooting for some odd reason because it's not 2024. Actually I know the reason. You want to skew the stats in favor of your ridciulous argument that race has something to do with school shootings. It doesn't, unless you're arguing that there is something wrong with white people. You went through part of the list I gave and found a more blacks than whites? Okay. Here's a list that, as I go through it, has clearly more whites than anybody else. It's the school shooting list.

https://apnews.com/general-news-9236...b5b6719024d8b2

Typical person on this list.



If you were really concerend about school shootings as opposed to pushing some racial narrative, ^that is the type of young person you would be concerned about. Yes there is inner city gang violence and most of that inner city gang violence tends to be black. But those gang members typically don't shoot up a school. The closest I've seen is the Dadeville massacre where every person shot and/or killed was a high school student but it happened off campus and none of the shooters went to that school and some were in their mid 20s. I still haven't heard what the motive for that was. The latest news I can find was from May of this year when the indictments were handed down. https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...e/70254294007/

Still, that proves your theory that these shooting are only nationally covered when the shooter is white is bollocks. Even the subway shooting that you brought up to prove your point got national coverage! So why do the gang on gang shootings not get national coverage? Because nobody freaking cares! I shouldn't say nobody. I'm sure their parents care. I've worked with at risk youths who have joined gangs and I would care if they were killed. But I don't care at on the same level as I do when totally innocent people who had done nothing to the people who killed them are killed. If a black person did like Dylan Roof and went into a church and started murdering white people or blackl people that would be national news just like the black people who killed the black teens at the Sweet 16 party or the black man who killed the 4 people sleeping on the subway made national news. CNN and CBS news gave national coverage to the black man who ran over white people at a Chrismas parade in 2021. He got life in prison.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/us/wa...ial/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/waukesh...ison-sentence/

So your whole schtick of "This would be covered nationally if the killer was white" is BS because these cases are covered when the killer is black regardless of whether the victims are black or white!

Last point. I see you didn't even bother to answer this question. I'll ask it again. Would you rather have your children taught by Thomas Sowell, who is still alive and is black, or by Bill Clinton or George Stephanopolus, who are white?

[jmdrake]

Isn't the whole point of interest of someone who shot a bunch of people randomly what their motivations were and what type of circumstances caused it? Especially when those things are a largely new trend growing in popularity largely because of the institutions they are attending where these shootings are occurring?

Only when the motivation fits your particular narrative and not when it doesn't. Case in point this person.



You won't see AF bringing up his motivation but you'll see people on the left doing that. Likewise people on the left won't highlight a shooter being gay.