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Thread: At Real Clear Politics, Harris is now ahead in every polling average

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    At Real Clear Politics, Harris is now ahead in every polling average

    Harris up 1.8 against Trump overall.

    Harris up 2.1 in a 5 way race against Trump, West, Stein and Oliver.

    Harris up 0.5 in an average of all five "battleground states".

    Harris up 7.3 in "Favorability Rating" against Trump.

    Harris up 0.5 in "Betting Odds".

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-30-2024 at 02:45 PM.
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    and your point is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Harris up 1.8 against Trump overall.

    Harris up 2.1 in a 5 way race against Trump, West, Stein and Oliver.

    Harris up 0.5 in an average of all five "battleground states".

    Harris up 7.3 in "Favorability Rating" against Trump.

    Harris up 0.5 in "Betting Odds".

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
    You forgetting that the Media also had put Hillary above Trump in every poll.

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    Trump is still winning in their Electoral College numbers which is all that really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    and your point is?
    Well, I'm making a number of points:

    1 - This is the US political forum, and nothing could be more "political" than polling numbers in the run up to a hotly contested election.

    2 - Freedom is not popular. If any of these polls, which are the averages of hundreds of other polls, are accurate, clearly one third of the US population wants more taxes, more regulation, more war, more infringements on the Bill of Rights, wants more queeerness, wants more abortion, wants more invasion.

    3 - Those of us that are gung ho for Trump, and those of us that are regarding him as the lesser of two evils to those that are mildly supportive of him, if any of us do not want a Harris regime, then we better take nothing for granted...this is far from a slam dunk. I am trying to prevent an "echo chamber" effect.

    4 - To document the polling numbers on a regular basis, in the very likely event of shenanigans taking place after The 5th of November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    3 - Those of us that are gung ho for Trump, and those of us that are regarding him as the lesser of two evils to those that are mildly supportive of him, if any of us do not want a Harris regime, then we better take nothing for granted...this is far from a slam dunk. I am trying to prevent an "echo chamber" effect.


    They could elect a ham & cheese sammich if we let them get away with it.

    4 - To document the polling numbers on a regular basis, in the very likely event of shenanigans taking place after The 5th of November.
    WHAT ARE YOU A CONSPIRACY THEORIST?!??

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    They need to include RFK as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    At Real Clear Politics, Harris is now ahead in every polling average
    Harris up 1.8 against Trump overall.
    James Carville was on Bill Maher's show last week saying that unless the Democratic candidate was up by at least 3 points in national-level polling then she was actually behind (due to the weighting of large population states in the national polling). Still though, you've posted other polls recently that showed Kamster polling better than Trumpsky in most all of the tossup states (which is where the battles leading to victory lie).



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    As long as it’s plausible, the steal is inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    As long as it’s plausible, the steal is inevitable.
    Bingo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    James Carville was on Bill Maher's show last week saying that unless the Democratic candidate was up by at least 3 points in national-level polling then she was actually behind (due to the weighting of large population states in the national polling). Still though, you've posted other polls recently that showed Kamster polling better than Trumpsky in most all of the tossup states (which is where the battles leading to victory lie).
    Based on those numbers, as it stands right now, Harris wins by 2.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/map...ctoral-college
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    LOL

    Total garbage polls.

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    I don't trust polls because they drive outcomes with stupid people.

    And we have more than enough stupid people to elect Klamydia.

    Democracy, with a twist and a push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    Total garbage polls.


    It must be very comforting to you that the results of this guy's analysis are exactly the same no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    As long as it’s plausible, the steal is inevitable.
    Bingo.
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, I'm making a number of points:

    1 - This is the US political forum, and nothing could be more "political" than polling numbers in the run up to a hotly contested election.

    2 - Freedom is not popular. If any of these polls, which are the averages of hundreds of other polls, are accurate, clearly one third of the US population wants more taxes, more regulation, more war, more infringements on the Bill of Rights, wants more queeerness, wants more abortion, wants more invasion.

    3 - Those of us that are gung ho for Trump, and those of us that are regarding him as the lesser of two evils to those that are mildly supportive of him, if any of us do not want a Harris regime, then we better take nothing for granted...this is far from a slam dunk. I am trying to prevent an "echo chamber" effect.

    4 - To document the polling numbers on a regular basis, in the very likely event of shenanigans taking place after The 5th of November.
    Yes, that would be correct. Somewhere between low 40s-low 50s percent of Americans do have no problem with or indeed want those things.
    Some of them are more popular than others, however, these numbers are on par with the percent of Americans who want Donald Trump in the office again. It is by no means odd if Harris wins.

    We're about half a liberal, socialist, feminist, secular country now, many of whom are dependent on the states and feds for life's necessities, and many of them are lured in by the prospects of more free stuff, like tuition and apartments.
    Last edited by Snowball; 08-31-2024 at 09:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    As long as it’s plausible, the steal is inevitable.
    Bingo.
    Yep.
    Here's the thing... (and maybe some good news)

    The corporate press and the intel machine have made their bed. Now, they'll have to lay in it. There's about 2 months to go. That's a long time to try to keep the coalition together. All you need is for some fissures in the donors to start to show, or some blunders by some statecraft agencies. It won't take long for a snowball.

    The biggest issue is that time is running out. Voting (ballot stuffing) in PA starts in about 2 weeks. Virginia and some other states start soon after that.

    But once it becomes less plausible that she could win the election, it becomes more difficult to steal. If this happens, the machine will turn their attention down-ballot to try to thwart Trump's nominees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Here's the thing... (and maybe some good news)

    The corporate press and the intel machine have made their bed. Now, they'll have to lay in it. There's about 2 months to go. That's a long time to try to keep the coalition together. All you need is for some fissures in the donors to start to show, or some blunders by some statecraft agencies. It won't take long for a snowball.

    The biggest issue is that time is running out. Voting (ballot stuffing) in PA starts in about 2 weeks. Virginia and some other states start soon after that.

    But once it becomes less plausible that she could win the election, it becomes more difficult to steal. If this happens, the machine will turn their attention down-ballot to try to thwart Trump's nominees.
    You're exactly right. It's one of those things where, "it works, if it works", meaning, they can absolutely pull this off if they make no mistakes. However, the silver-lining is that, realistically, if they make any mistake, they're finished, because it will just snowball, as you say. The moment one of their vote-steal attempts gets shut down, there are going to be calls from top, in-the-know donors. "I thought we had this on 100% total lockdown? So then why aren't we flipping these key precincts? I'm not paying $100M for Trump to become President because you guys flubbed the ball on the field." Etc. I think that's why Maher is counting this as a Trump shoo-in. But then, Trump could also flub the ball. In my personal opinion (FWIW), I think that's really what Kamala is for... the DS is running her just in case. After all, anything could happen. If there is a hiccup on the Trump side or something goes wrong, they're in position to catch that ball.

    And man are those Kamala poll numbers fake. Even Soviet communist party-members would have been shaking their heads reading numbers like that in an issue of Pravda...

    Welcome to Amerika 2024...

    Last edited by ClaytonB; 08-31-2024 at 12:14 PM.
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    It is now REAL CLEAR that REAL CLEAR POLITICS does not speak the truth.

    Welcome to my BLOCK LIST there REAL CLEAR POLITICS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    As long as it’s plausible, the steal is inevitable.
    Pretty sure Democrats are at the point where they really don't care about plausibility anymore. Literally every poll can have Trump up by 50 points and it wouldn't deter them one bit from stealing the election.
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Trump is still winning in their Electoral College numbers which is all that really matters.
    No, he's not.

    If the election were held today, and every poll was accurate, Harris wins by 2.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/map...ctoral-college
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    It is now REAL CLEAR that REAL CLEAR POLITICS does not speak the truth.

    Welcome to my BLOCK LIST there REAL CLEAR POLITICS.
    Why?

    They were within a point or two in 2016 and 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    As long as it’s plausible, the steal is inevitable.
    This. We all know that polls exist to persuade rather than to inform, and in this case the Kamala buzz is just a primer for election fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    This. We all know that polls exist to persuade rather than to inform, and in this case the Kamala buzz is just a primer for election fraud.
    Seems pretty obvious to me as well.

    The question is: is anybody going to do anything about it when it happens?
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, he's not.

    If the election were held today, and every poll was accurate, Harris wins by 2.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/map...ctoral-college
    Ok, yeah they just switched PA to Harris the other day.

    Let's see how it shakes out after Sept 10th.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Seems pretty obvious to me as well.

    The question is: is anybody going to do anything about it when it happens?
    Somebody will probably take a selfie at Nancy's desk again and go back to prison until the next election. Other than that no.

    I actually think Trump is going to win. Who knows?

  33. #29
    What do kamalalalalaaas poll numbers and the ol COVID death toll have in common?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, he's not.

    If the election were held today, and every poll was accurate, Harris wins by 2.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/map...ctoral-college
    That's garbage.
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