Trump threatens Zuckerberg with life in prison

[Madison320]

This is an article on zerohedge. Apparently in his book Trump said he'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he interferes with the election. Trump is totally wrong here. He's got it backwards. The crime was the government threatening Zuckerberg, not Zuckerberg's actions.

Trump Warns Zuckerberg And Anyone Who Illegally Interferes In Election Will Be Jailed For Life

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...be-jailed-life

[fisharmor]

This is an article on zerohedge. Apparently in his book Trump said he'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he interferes with the election. Trump is totally wrong here. He's got it backwards. The crime was the government threatening Zuckerberg, not Zuckerberg's actions.

Trump Warns Zuckerberg And Anyone Who Illegally Interferes In Election Will Be Jailed For Life

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...be-jailed-life

So they'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he doesn't interfere, and they'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he does.
Either way Zuckerberg ends up in jail and I can't get broken up about it.

[sparebulb]

So they'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he doesn't interfere, and they'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he does.
Either way Zuckerberg ends up in jail and I can't get broken up about it.

Zuck's not going to jail.

Zuck is fine with being the middle man in an Eifel Tower.

[Madison320]

So they'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he doesn't interfere, and they'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he does.
Either way Zuckerberg ends up in jail and I can't get broken up about it.

Would you feel the same if they put Musk in jail?

[acptulsa]

Would you feel the same if they put Musk in jail?

Somewhat. Neither is a self-made man. They both rode to prominence on government money. The only difference I see is there's no way Zuckerberg could possibly have not known he was working for the CIA, and if he thinks they would never sacrifice an "asset" he should have studied the Lee Harvey Oswald case more closely. Voluntarily joined the mafia expecting a long life? What do you want me to do, lift a finger to save you?

[Madison320]

Somewhat. Neither is a self-made man. They both rode to prominence on government money. The only difference I see is there's no way Zuckerberg could possibly have not known he was working for the CIA, and if he thinks they would never sacrifice an "asset" he should have studied the Lee Harvey Oswald case more closely. Voluntarily joined the mafia expecting a long life? What do you want me to do, lift a finger to save you?

What about telegram or rumble? Would you care if they got locked up?

[brushfire]

Trump is totally wrong here. He's got it backwards. The crime was the government threatening Zuckerberg, not Zuckerberg's actions.

These people are doing the governments bidding. I believe Zucks recent PR letter is probably prompted by the fear of Trump winning, and Zuck having to take on the DOJ. I personally would not mind seeing some of these lap dogs hung out to dry. Its the ONLY bright side to having Trump in office - so that he may have his revenge. I fear though that Trump is going to fall into his 3d chess tactics though, and bring in more deep staters. Meanwhile humiliating his true allies as he did in the last term.

[brushfire]

They didnt put Elon in jail. Even after Elon exposed them.

[Madison320]

These people are doing the governments bidding. I believe Zucks recent PR letter is probably prompted by the fear of Trump winning, and Zuck having to take on the DOJ. I personally would not mind seeing some of these lap dogs hung out to dry. Its the ONLY bright side to having Trump in office - so that he may have his revenge. I fear though that Trump is going to fall into his 3d chess tactics though, and bring in more deep staters. Meanwhile humiliating his true allies as he did in the last term.

Good plan. Just the government decide who can have access to the internet. What could possibly go wrong?

[fisharmor]

Would you feel the same if they put Musk in jail?

What's your basis of comparison?
One is the greatest champion of free speech in the world today.
The other is its greatest suppressor.
I see 180 degree polar opposites here. I don't know what you see that you'd think they belong in the same category.

[brushfire]

Good plan. Just the government decide who can have access to the internet. What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, 3d chess and artful deal making is what can go wrong. Every major "channel" is under government coercion (its all a matter of national security). The only plan is to dismantle it.

[acptulsa]

What about telegram or rumble? Would you care if they got locked up?

Yes, I do care. And what do you mean by "if"? Durov's in jail and Pavlovski fled France.

[TheCount]

It's almost as if the things that Trumpkins complain about wouldn't actually change during a Trump administration

[jmdrake]

Yes, I do care. And what do you mean by "if"? Durov's in jail and Pavlovski fled France.

Durov is currently out on bond but not allowed to leave France.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-messaging-app

[CaptUSA]

This is an article on zerohedge. Apparently in his book Trump said he'll put Zuckerberg in jail if he interferes with the election. Trump is totally wrong here. He's got it backwards. The crime was the government threatening Zuckerberg, not Zuckerberg's actions.

I think the warning (screwed up in typical Trump fashion) is to put pressure on Zuck to NOT be coerced by the government pressure because there'll be a new sheriff in town soon.

In other words, "Hey Zuck, if you shoot and miss, even if they tell you to shoot, the new Justice department will be directed at you. And, 'I was just following their orders', isn't going to be a good defense."

[Occam's Banana]

CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #323:

Mark Zuckerberg Admits FBI Lies Caused Facebook to Suppress 2020 Hunter Biden Reporting
https://rumble.com/v5cq5ok-mark-zuck...unter-bid.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 28 August 2024}

Move along, comrade! Nothing to see here, move along ...

FBI Tricked Facebook Into Suppressing Hunter Biden Laptop Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp7M3ScsHm8
{Nate The Lawyer | 30 August 2024}

Facebook is under fire after admitting they were pressured by the government to censor American citizens who were simply making jokes. This revelation has sparked outrage, with many questioning the extent of government influence on social media platforms. In this video, we dive deep into the details of Facebook's admission, explore the implications for free speech, and discuss how this could impact the future of online expression. Join us as we break down what this means for you and your freedom on social media. Don't miss out on this eye-opening discussion!



THREAD: Missouri & Louisiana sue feds for colluding with Big Tech censors

THREAD: SCOTUS: White House Can Influence Social Media Firms

THREAD: Hunter's Laptop

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[WarriorLiberty]

It's almost as if the things that Trumpkins complain about wouldn't actually change during a Trump administration

Its what Harris/Walz admin is going to.. She will be like the British Clown PM currently arresting people for their opinions and mean tweets..

[TheCount]

Its what Harris/Walz admin is going to.. She will be like the British Clown PM currently arresting people for their opinions and mean tweets..

If that's true, why is Trump the one threatening it?

[acptulsa]

If that's true, why is Trump the one threatening it?

[Madison320]

What's your basis of comparison?
One is the greatest champion of free speech in the world today.
The other is its greatest suppressor.
I see 180 degree polar opposites here. I don't know what you see that you'd think they belong in the same category.

You're missing the point. Musk and Zuckerberg run private businesses and they should both be allowed to control their website's content any way they want.

Government is the problem not private business. Zuckerberg can't force me to do anything. It seems like a lot of anarchists get this confused and that doesn't make sense to me.

[Madison320]

Yes, I do care. And what do you mean by "if"? Durov's in jail and Pavlovski fled France.

So you're ok if "bad" owners get locked up like Musk and Zuckeberg but you're not ok if "good" ones are locked up like Durov and Pavlovski? Don't you see the problem with that?

[Madison320]

If that's true, why is Trump the one threatening it?

Trump is threatening censorship. Biden/Harris are actively engaging in it.

[Madison320]

I think the warning (screwed up in typical Trump fashion) is to put pressure on Zuck to NOT be coerced by the government pressure because there'll be a new sheriff in town soon.

In other words, "Hey Zuck, if you shoot and miss, even if they tell you to shoot, the new Justice department will be directed at you. And, 'I was just following their orders', isn't going to be a good defense."

I actually don't think Trump is going to do any censoring, but he's still wrong for saying it.

Part of the purpose of this thread is to see who actually believes in free speech here. There's a lot of hatred of Zuckerberg and people are willing to make exceptions to "punish" people they don't like.

[acptulsa]

So you're ok if "bad" owners get locked up like Musk and Zuckeberg but you're not ok if "good" ones are locked up like Durov and Pavlovski? Don't you see the problem with that?

It has nothing to do with my definitions of good and bad. Proven collaborators with my enemy are my enemy. When you work with the government to put the official slant on political speech you violate the First Amendment, and you're a criminal. I don't know that's true about Musk, nor that it's untrue. I know it's true of Zuckerberg. Hell, he admitted it.

Do you feel it was immoral to bomb the Daimler-Benz factory in Stuttgart because we had only declared war with Hitler's government, not the private enterprise that made what it did possible? Don't you see a problem with that?

No? Then you get it.

[TheCount]

Trump is threatening censorship. Biden/Harris are actively engaging in it.

Your personal definition of censorship is fascinating.

[WarriorLiberty]

If that's true, why is Trump the one threatening it?

Well which version of America u prefer to see or have? one where America is like Germany arresting users for calling people who are fat fat? because ERRRRRRRRR fatphobic!!!!!!



Arresting users for making comments on mass deportations of migrants?

Because this what the leftist progressives wants.

[Madison320]

Your personal definition of censorship is fascinating.

What is my definition for censorship?

[Madison320]

It has nothing to do with my definitions of good and bad. Proven collaborators with my enemy are my enemy. When you work with the government to put the official slant on political speech you violate the First Amendment, and you're a criminal. I don't know that's true about Musk, nor that it's untrue. I know it's true of Zuckerberg. Hell, he admitted it.

Those are some pretty subjective standards, don't you think?

[Valli6]

I see a lot of people are jumping to the conclusion that because Trump made another terse statement, we can only conclude that he intends to use lordly decree in order to lock Zuckerberg away for life.

We still have laws and the court system hasn’t been quite entirely captured yet. Just because democrats have demonstrated they have no shame uniting to ignore the law for selfish political reasons, doesn’t mean Trump and every republican will also find this acceptable. Are we not morally better people than democrats?!

• I expect an examination of all the actions Zuckerberg took to “fortify” this and past elections.
• I expect an evaluation of these actions and a determination of which, if any of these actions, broke the law.
• I expect serious charges to be filed where applicable, followed by a public hearing.

This was not a crime against Trump.
It was a crime against me and all other citizens.

If this results in a determination of guilt being made, and a life sentence or an execution can be applied as a result, so be it.

Meanwhile, fire up the civil asset forfeiture engines for this one. We’ve got a debt to pay off.

[acptulsa]

Those are some pretty subjective standards, don't you think?

No. I don't know that I'm 100% objective about the Bill of Rights, but I still consider any organized, covert operation to violate them on a nationwide scale a criminal enterprise.

Nothing subjective about this: The government colluded with CEO Z to violate the First Amendment. Zuckerberg is just as guilty as the government. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Remember what a plea of "just following orders" got defendants at Nuremberg.

If Congress had only bothered once in 239 years to codify a statute against conspiracy to defraud all Americans of their Constitutional rights we'd know what to charge him with and how long to lock him up for. But whether they ever bothered to put a name and sentencing guidelines to it, it's still a crime.

Dickens was right. The law is a ass. But the Constitution's clear enough. He broke the law of the land.