Telegram Founder Arrested in France For Not Pushing Censorship

[WarriorLiberty]

F France.
The founder of telegram Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram, arrested in France and facing 20 years in jail refusing to censor platform his own platform telegram.

The Rothchilds Macron is upset over Telegram.
Rothchilds France doesn't like the certain telegram channels that were reporting on the war in Ukraine and on Gaza.
Rothchilds Macron wants to censor certain channels.

They are setting a precedent with this arrest, they are making up a number of fake charges, including terrorism, drug trafficking, and even pedophile content...



https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1827453767291424853

Rothschild France arrested the CEO of Telegram for not releasing user chat messages.

https://x.com/0xMert_/status/1827457464582692970

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1827475096476287204

[WarriorLiberty]

You would think the majority of French People really voted in someone who was hiding a Pricey Watch during a interview over the costs of Living?

[WarriorLiberty]

https://x.com/runews/status/1827458289182925158

[TheTexan]

"Bist du faschistisch?"

"When did this become the default!?!?"

-- Rick and morty

[WarriorLiberty]

"Bist du faschistisch?"

"When did this become the default!?!?"

-- Rick and morty

For refusing to refusing to censor content..
https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status...60239551021108

[WarriorLiberty]

A reminder of what the CEO of Telegram said in a interview with Tucker Carlson.




https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1827467035229745463

to install a backdoor that would allow U.S. intelligence agencies to spy on users.

[WarriorLiberty]

Like clockwork sheeps believe whatever the MSM says..
Bogus charges because the CEO of Telegram didnt want to push for Censorship on his platform.
Including moderation on cryptocurrency.

https://x.com/deafprophet/status/1827493374019940709

[WarriorLiberty]

Rumble CEO had left/fled the EU.

[acptulsa]

Meanwhile, the Zionists weigh in. Wouldn't you love to know what they've "classified"?

[Brian4Liberty]

Pavel Durov left Russia when the government tried to control his social media company, Telegram. But in the end, it wasn’t Putin who arrested him for allowing the public to exercise free speech. It was a western country, a Biden administration ally and enthusiastic NATO member, that locked him away. Pavel Durov sits in a French jail tonight, a living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth at the behest of governments and intel agencies. Darkness is descending fast on the formerly free world. Here’s our interview with Durov from several months ago.

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1827460234887008277

Tucker Ep. 94 - The social media app Telegram

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status...40616282055012

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1827456074590396809

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1827750262640959509

[ClaytonB]

[WarriorLiberty]

Once Rothchilds Macron is accusing Telegram CEO of CP..
While claiming that this wasn't a Political Arrest.

The Rothschild Servant is still upset over Russia kicking out France's influence in Africa..
I suppose.


A number of these charges look are bogus

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1828134885758005466

[WarriorLiberty]

Macron.....

[Madison320]

Once Rothchilds Macron is accusing Telegram CEO of CP..
While claiming that this wasn't a Political Arrest.

The Rothschild Servant is still upset over Russia kicking out France's influence in Africa..
I suppose.


A number of these charges look are bogus

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1828134885758005466

This one is creepy,

"Provision of cryptographic services, as well as import of cryptological tools for the purpose of ensuring confidentiality without permissions"

What does that mean? You have to get government permission to have a private conversation?


And why would a third party providing the communication system be responsible for what's being communicated?

[ClaytonB]

This goes here:

[jmdrake]

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1827456074590396809

There's only one way to actually beat this and that is to use communications platforms that are as decentralized as Bitcoin.

Examples:

https://hive.io/

https://joinmastodon.org/

https://solidproject.org/

But breaking the mentality of wanting to be where everybody else is already at is hard to do.

[Brian4Liberty]

https://x.com/jatony57/status/1828142733980246491

[jmdrake]

https://x.com/jatony57/status/1828142733980246491

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the George Orwell 2024 meme.

[Valli6]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry and the George Orwell 2024 meme.

Yeah, it's pretty funny... except for the sad reality part.

[unknown]

[TheTexan]

There's only one way to actually beat this and that is to use communications platforms that are as decentralized as Bitcoin.

Examples:

https://hive.io/

https://joinmastodon.org/

https://solidproject.org/

But breaking the mentality of wanting to be where everybody else is already at is hard to do.

All of those can be taken down, or effectively neutered, by a motivated government.

[ClaytonB]

All of those can be taken down, or effectively neutered, by a motivated government.

Maybe, maybe not. The US Government with its infinity-illion dollars, aircraft carriers and nukes... tried with all its might to take down Bitcoin (globally) and it couldn't. Not saying that Bitcoin is fail-proof, but it's the closest thing out there to fail-proof. You can use the rubber-hose attack to decrypt something when you know who to hit with the rubber-hose. When you don't know who to hit, as with Bitcoin, all the rubber-hose in the world will do you no good. So, better start building that cluster...

[TheTexan]

Maybe, maybe not. The US Government with its infinity-illion dollars, aircraft carriers and nukes... tried with all its might to take down Bitcoin (globally) and it couldn't. Not saying that Bitcoin is fail-proof, but it's the closest thing out there to fail-proof. You can use the rubber-hose attack to decrypt something when you know who to hit with the rubber-hose. When you don't know who to hit, as with Bitcoin, all the rubber-hose in the world will do you no good. So, better start building that cluster...

"tried with all its might" seems like a bit of a stretch. They didn't even make it illegal

[jmdrake]

All of those can be taken down, or effectively neutered, by a motivated government.

Not really because they aren't platforms, they're protocols. It's like the difference between GMail and email. A government could easily ban Gmail because it's one company that controls it. (Google). But no one company controls email. I remember what the internet was like when everyone was using USENET before people decided to go to centralized servers. Centralization is the main problem. Using your example, the guy with the wrench is able to take down one user. Maybe he gets that one user's contact list. But he doesn't get to shut down email in general by going after users 1 or even 10 at a time.

[TheTexan]

Not really because they aren't platforms, they're protocols. It's like the difference between GMail and email. A government could easily ban Gmail because it's one company that controls it. (Google). But no one company controls email. I remember what the internet was like when everyone was using USENET before people decided to go to centralized servers. Centralization is the main problem. Using your example, the guy with the wrench is able to take down one user. Maybe he gets that one user's contact list. But he doesn't get to shut down email in general by going after users 1 or even 10 at a time.

I think you're overestimating how difficult it would be to shut down protocols. Even just making it illegal would eliminate 90-99.9% of the national userbase depending on the harshness of the penalties. The remaining users can be identified through traffic patterns and communications between known hosts/nodes/users. Or even easier, "regulate" end-to-end encryption in such a way that all backbone traffic is unencrypted.

No matter how "decentralized" a protocol is, the internet itself is extremely centralized with everything being routed through known commercial entities that the government effectively controls. International traffic is even easier to control with everything going through a handful of routes.

None of this stuff is even theoretical. It's stuff they have been doing for decades, and they've gotten pretty damn good at it.

At the end of the day, firearms are the only tool that can be relied on to protect free speech. Until we are prepared to use that tool, our freedoms will constantly be further eroded. "Blockchain" will not save us from that fate.

[Anti Globalist]

Seems more like he was abducted than arrested.

[ClaytonB]

"tried with all its might" seems like a bit of a stretch. They didn't even make it illegal

The key is "globally". The US government has really made it a major PITA to use Bitcoin. I have a small amount from back in the day (less than the value of a laptop, truly small), and I don't even touch it because I'm afraid those 87,000 IRS agents are snooping on my ISP and I'm going to get a random tax-bill for whatever they deem my "undeclared overseas account" (or whatever) is taxable for. Which could be literally any number, because they're the IRS and that's how taxes work in Amerika. Up to me to hire the tax lawyer to prove them wrong. Which will cost a lot more than a laptop's worth of value. So yeah, they've succeeded in that regard. But they did not succeed in shutting down the core of Bitcoin. They didn't go at it as hard as drugs but, then again, I don't think popular opinion would have supported that kind of an assault because most people just regard it like Minecraft tokens or Pokemons, but for super-nerds. Mobilizing entire-DEA-department-scale resources against that would not have sold, politically. But they really tried, including by trying to swamp the mempool (equivalent of DDoS against the entire Bitcoin network, I watched it in real-time) for months, trying to drive up transaction fees to the stratosphere while trying to switch everybody over to Bitcoin-Cash-Trash, and many more attacks. We're talking sustained attacks involving billions of dollars in-flight. The final bill on those attacks would not have been in the billions, but the amount of liquid cash was in the billions or tens of billions, by my reckoning. They absolutely hammered the network. But it kept chugging along. So, again, not absolutely failproof (nothing is), but more failproof than any other alternative out there, by a country mile.