
Originally Posted by
acptulsa
Now do a paragraph on John Bolton.
That would be a long paragraph. LOL. I think the MAGA crowd will at least admit John Bolton was a snake because he turned on Trump. And they claim he was not in any position of power. (Yeah right!) But then never can come out with an explanation for why William Barr was allowed to cover up the murder of Jeffery Epstein. Usually they just claim that Trump somehow didn't allow that but they never give an explaination for their answer.
I don't recall seeing the verse which said that the Antichrist will be as politically powerless as Jesus was. I always imagined that particular character to be head man in charge in the Time of Tribulation.
Jesus wasn't powerless. John 10:18 This is why the Father loves me: because I freely lay down my life. And so I am free to take it up again. No one takes it from me. I lay it down of my own free ...
Jesus even encouraged Judas to hurry up and get the betrayal going. John 13:27 And after the sop, then entered Satan into him. Jesus therefore saith unto him, What thou doest, do quickly.
And Jesus pointed out to his enemies that the power they had to crucify Him was ultimately given to them by God. John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
The plan of salvation required God to let Satan and his agents think they were winning when they were really sealing their own fate. So yes, even the antichrist will ultimately only be fulfilling God's purpose. Look at how God get's the forces of the antichrist to turn on each other in Revelation 17:16.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
The antichrist. The devil himself.
FTR the term "antichrist" is only used in the Epistles of John and it doesn't specifically refer to "the devil himself."
1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
John refers to the devil as "the dragon."
Revelation 12:9
The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
It's funny that when people hear the word "antichrist" they're usually thinking about "the devil", who is the power behind all people who are litterally anti Christ, and think of the book of Revelation when the term isn't even in that book.
I'm trying to figure out how to tell a woman with a god complex that she's the last victim of the Steinem-Freidan First Wave Feminism brainwashing. Way back in '69 they were being trained to consider apologizing a sign of weakness that would set women back a thousand years if they ever did it. I remember spooky-eyed believers right through the seventies.
This person is a control freak and lives in mortal fear of making a mistake. And is aging. She's killing herself with stress. I can see her on the Judgement Day looking Jesus in the face and bellowing, "Lord, I repent!" You know what she'll hear. "Whatever you have done unto the least of these My children, so you have done unto Me," right? Seems we believe eternity depends upon our ability to apologize when the Day comes. Could a believer possibly go through life refusing to practice?
Only through prayer and fasting.
18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
Seriously, intercessory prayer works. I've seen it work. I've prayed that God restore certain relationships and destroy others and I've seen Him do it. God doesn't force Himself on people, but He will force the evil spirits out if the person is at all willing for them to go.
She and
Trump are very different, but the same kind of Christian. The kind you worry about making the cut.
I'm going to be honest. The only people I worry about making the cut are myself and my children. Myself because I know my own heart and what I still need deliverance from. My children because...well I'm a dad. I could say more but I'll leave it at that.
I think he just can't or won't believe humans can be so evil as to be that conniving. Wrestling doesn't mean anything. That's a given. But if politics doesn't mean anything, then we failed to deliver our children into a Republic. That'll send you up De Nile without a paddle! Did me.
Yep! Here's the kicker though. We all accept that some humans can be that evil, just not the humans we've invested our faith in. Most of the people I know in my personal life are black Christians and most of them are EXACTLY LIKE @ClaytonB in reverse! They believe God's hand is on Obama, Biden, Harris and the Clintons and the Republicans are the evil ones, especially Trump. I'm sure that ClaytonB, SwordSmyth, dannno and others would be SHOCKED to know how often I'm accused by people closest to me of being a "Trump supporter" or "voting for Trump." I recently heard this from an other cousin who grew up with me and I had to put her in check. Her reasoning? "Well you mostly talk negative about Kamala Harris." Ummmm....okay. So I need to explain to people who hate Trump what's wrong with Trump? Same thing here where pretty much everybody hates the Democrats. (Though funny enough the OP video was as hard on Kamala Harris as it is on Trump but all Clayton can see it "Trump is evil incarnate.")
Funny story. I once heard my pastor say "I don't know how anybody could vote from Trump and call himself a Christian." Ummm....okay. Well I've been very vocal whenever the opportunity presents itself to say "Neither one of these top ranked politicians are aligned with God" and I've pointed out that under Biden one of our SDA universities was being sued for LGBTQ+ discrimination and, ironically enough, it was a Clinton appointee who threw the lawsuit out. Whatever one thinks of LGBTQ+, the government should not be dictating policy on that for religious affiliated schools. Well in this same pastor's last sermon he talked about how his relatives convinced him to watch the DNC convention, which he originally wasn't going to watch, and how everybody was so excited and there was so much energy and everyone was saying this was about "hope" and if they could just get Kamala in the country would be back on the right track. So then he went back and watched the Republican convention and saw how everybody was so excited and there was so much energy and everyone was saying this was about "hope" and if they could just get Trump back in the country would be back on the right track And then he realized "They're both saying the same thing. Maybe we should quit putting our hope in man and put our hope in Jesus." The sermon then focused on the Pool of Bethesda where the lame man had been sitting there 38 years waiting for the water to be troubled so that he could be healed and how every time someone would get in before him. The pastor said the name "Bethesda" simultaneously meant "place of hope" and "place of sorrow" and went on to talk about how those who wanted healing would trample over those trying to get to the pool. The blind and lame and withered were there. The blind couldn't see how to get to the pool. The lame and withered had trouble crawling to the pool even though they could see it. A pathetic sight. And a very apt desription of our political system. We are conditioned to walk all over each other and attack each other to grasp to some elusive sliver of hope from what is probably just fart smelling sulfur gas seeping up through the cracks.
At the end of the OP video, Whitney Webb makes it clear she's not telling anyone they shouldn't vote for the lesser of two evils. Do that if you want to. Just be cognizant of your decision and be prepared after the election to work with local like minded people on real change. That's the mindset @Anti Federalist has and though we disagree on voting for Trump and on a lot of other things, we respect each other because we respect each other's decisions and we're not operating off of political self delusions. @PAF is in the "I'm not voting at all" camp and I'm just about there myself. Why do people believe politics is binary? If anything is a social construct it's politics. People on the left can accept 57 genders and people on the right can exampe 5,000 versions of Christianity but everybody has to choose between two political parties? GTFOH!
It's a trap. It takes a lot of evidence to get you to question that belief. By then you're in for more than a penny. You're in for a pound. Then you hate to admit you've been had, and double down on a bad bet.
Yep! I've been there. I might still be there in some regards.
It becomes a matter of the most dangerous ten words in the language: "Don't confuse me with facts, I've made up my mind." Dangerous.
That's the result of congitive dissonance. When you have cherished world views you have trouble accepting facts that disturb those worldviews. Oh, here's one for me. I accept the Bible as 100% true and God as 100% good. I also believe genocide is 100% evil. Yet the old testament has God ordered genocide in it. That was a problem for me as a child. It's still a problem for me as an adult. Pete (may he rest in peace) "solved" this problem by coming to the conclusion that all of those who were wiped out in the old testament were the children of the Nephalim and so were of a different "race" than human. Ummm.....okay. It certainly solves the problem. But I can't prove that or disprove that thesis. And yes I've read part of the Book of Enoch and know about the watchers but the whole point of the flood was to destory everything that was corrupt leaving only Noah and his family to start over. So how did the seed of the Nephalim get into the ark if that indeed happened? Or did the watcher angels start all over again? It's a fun but frustraiting mental excercise but it doesn't solve my problem. Oh well. I need to get to heaven if for no other reason than to ask God to explain this.
No, Clayton, it is a matter of love. All our souls are in the balance. We have a right to worry about you.
And if you want to save souls, you should remember what I once told @
Theocrat. You get more flies with honey than vinegar. Or tired pulpit slogans either, because I think people can see that the silly sectarian differences won't matter.
100%
Now lighten up already.
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