Trump addresses Gun Owners of America convention

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDDnDNVCsw

[Matt Collins]

I didn't hear any promises of what he was going to do if he gets reelected

[PAF]

On March 23, 2018, Trump signed into law an appropriations act that included the Fix NICS Act, a bipartisan measure aimed at improving the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. The act, pushed by Republican Sen. John Cornyn and Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy, and co-sponsored by a bipartisan mix of 76 other senators, required federal agencies to submit semiannual certification reports to the attorney general on their compliance with record-keeping and transmission requirements, and to come up with plans to increase coordination and automated reporting. It carried financial penalties for political appointees who didn’t comply.

The new law also required the attorney general to “establish implementation plans for each state and tribal government” and to “determine if the state is in compliance with the benchmarks contained in the implementation plan,” according to a February bipartisan letter from senators urging agencies, specifically the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security, to fully comply with the act.



The Department of Justice and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued a new federal regulation on Dec. 18, 2018, officially banning bump stocks, or devices that can be attached to the rear of a semiautomatic rifle to make it shoot almost as fast as a fully automatic weapon. The ATF had previously ruled 10 times between 2008 and 2017 that certain models could not be prohibited under existing gun laws.

Trump announced that he had signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to “dedicate all available resources to complete the review of the comments received, and, as expeditiously as possible, to propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.” The following month, on March 23, the Justice Department announced that it was proposing a rule to that effect, which was finalized about nine months later — despite objections from the NRA.

The final rule required the owners of any bump stocks to destroy the devices or turn them in at an ATF office prior to March 26, when the rule went into effect.



In his Aug. 5 remarks on the mass shootings in Ohio and Texas, Trump pointed to his administration’s record of prosecuting people who have violated federal gun laws. “Last year, we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses,” he said.

There has been a notable increase in the successful prosecution of firearms offenses each year under Trump.

In fiscal year 2019, the Department of Justice successfully prosecuted 10,623 defendants of firearms offenses, according to data provided by department spokesman Peter Carr. That’s the most since at least fiscal year 1992, based on a review of the department’s annual statistical reports since fiscal year 1992. The previous high was 10,466 in fiscal 2006, as the chart below shows. (See “defendants guilty of firearms offense” in Table 3B in the fiscal 2010 report for fiscal years 1992 to 2010, and Table 3C in the fiscal 2017 report for fiscal years 2000 to 2017.)

[TheTexan]

I didn't hear any promises of what he was going to do if he gets reelected

He's gonna abolish the ATF and the NFA but he can't let the Democrats know that or they'll use it against him

[Matt Collins]

He's gonna abolish the ATF and the NFA but he can't let the Democrats know that or they'll use it against him

lol uh no.... Congress would have to be on board with that, and they aren't. Besides, why didn't he do that last time?

[dannno]

He's gonna abolish the ATF and the NFA but he can't let the Democrats know that or they'll use it against him

PAF doesn't have any preferences between a candidate who outlawed a toy that connects to a gun or a politician who wants to actually confiscate millions of firearms. It's totally rational.

[PAF]

PAF doesn't have any preferences between a candidate who outlawed a toy that connects to a gun or a politician who wants to actually confiscate millions of firearms. It's totally rational.

Standing on principle [or not] is what will determine whether anything is taken from you, up to and including alcohol, or a toy.

[TheTexan]

Standing on principle [or not] is what will determine whether anything is taken from you, up to and including alcohol, or a toy.

Pretty sure principles don't stop people from taking things from you.

Unless by principles you mean these

[TheTexan]

lol uh no.... Congress would have to be on board with that, and they aren't. Besides, why didn't he do that last time?

It's gonna be different this time

[PAF]

Pretty sure principles don't stop people from taking things from you.

Unless by principles you mean these

I have some of those. I also want some of those.

[Occam's Banana]

He's gonna abolish the ATF and the NFA but he can't let the Democrats know that or they'll use it against him

lol uh no.... Congress would have to be on board with that, and they aren't. Besides, why didn't he do that last time?

It's gonna be different this time

[Matt Collins]

It's gonna be different this time

And if you believe that, then Hillary has some land in Arkansas to sell you

[TheTexan]

And if you believe that, then Hillary has some land in Arkansas to sell you

Yikes, last thing I need right now is to be haunted by all those corpses over there, hard pass

[PAF]

And if you believe that, then Hillary has some land in Arkansas to sell you

How much, and where's the link?

[unknown]

Did they boo him off stage?

[sparebulb]

Trump had the best gun control.

Re-elect Trump so we can have the even bester gun control.

[Invisible Man]

This just makes GOA look like a bunch of hypnotized kool-aid drinking morons.

[jmdrake]

PAF doesn't have any preferences between a candidate who outlawed a toy that connects to a gun or a politician who wants to actually confiscate millions of firearms. It's totally rational.

So we're just going to ingore that Trump twice called for an assautl weapons ban, once prior to running for president and once after being preisdent. We're going to ignore "Take the guns first, then have due process." Just ignore that. The bumpfire stock ban set the stage for Biden's pistol brace ban. There is one and only one good thing regarging gun control when it comes to president Trump versus a possible president Harris. Trump would have to go against his own constintuents in order to do the bad things hs's said in the past about guns and Kamala would have to go with her own constiutuents in order to do the bad things she's said in the past about guns. That's it.

Anyhow, we are where we are. God help us.

[PAF]

So we're just going to ingore that Trump twice called for an assautl weapons ban, once prior to running for president and once after being preisdent. We're going to ignore "Take the guns first, then have due process." Just ignore that. The bumpfire stock ban set the stage for Biden's pistol brace ban. There is one and only one good thing regarging gun control when it comes to president Trump versus a possible president Harris. Trump would have to go against his own constintuents in order to do the bad things hs's said in the past about guns and Kamala would have to go with her own constiutuents in order to do the bad things she's said in the past about guns. That's it.

Anyhow, we are where we are. God help us.

Quit dissin' on Trump, he's f&cking awesome. $8+ Trillion worth of pure awesomeness.

And just to prove that, for his next nationalist achievement, he's going to rename this country The United States of Israel

[dannno]

So we're just going to ingore that Trump twice called for an assautl weapons ban, once prior to running for president and once after being preisdent. We're going to ignore "Take the guns first, then have due process." Just ignore that. The bumpfire stock ban set the stage for Biden's pistol brace ban. There is one and only one good thing regarging gun control when it comes to president Trump versus a possible president Harris. Trump would have to go against his own constintuents in order to do the bad things hs's said in the past about guns and Kamala would have to go with her own constiutuents in order to do the bad things she's said in the past about guns. That's it.

Anyhow, we are where we are. God help us.

First of all, his statements against assault weapons were back in 2000 or something, I can't find anything about him saying ban assault weapons after he became President. People are allowed to change their mind.

Second, he wouldn't just be going against his own constituents, but his own children..




The bumpstock ban, which I said was done in part to be overturned, and purposely done for something that is more of a toy and not very useful, so that things like pistol brace bans that are useful would also be overturned if made illegal by EO, actually turned out to be correct.

[oyarde]

Pretty sure principles don't stop people from taking things from you.

Unless by principles you mean these

Yes my principle sometimes starts with .30-.06 Springfield

[Cleaner44]

lol uh no.... Congress would have to be on board with that, and they aren't. Besides, why didn't he do that last time?

Could he reduce the budget of the ATF by 25% given that they are an executive branch agency?

[sparebulb]

.......The bumpstock ban, which I said was done in part to be overturned,......

Delusional 5D is delusional in all D's.

[dannno]

Delusional 5D is delusional in all D's.

Keep denying it, but it worked.

[Occam's Banana]

Keep denying it, but it worked.

If by "worked" you mean something like "Trump lit one of his own farts, but it didn't end up burning his ass", then, yeah ... I guess you could say it "worked".

[CCTelander]

If by "worked" you mean something like "Trump lit one of his own farts, but it didn't end up burning his ass", then, yeah ... I guess you could say it "worked".

Quantum Dark Energy Butthole Chess?

[Occam's Banana]

THREAD: Trump Renews Call for Stop-and-Frisk, Says ‘Take Their Gun Away’

From the OP article:

On Thursday, the Republican nominee outlined his views on the matter during the Fox News morning show. He told the hosts he believes police are “not allowed to do their jobs.” He said officers ought to be able to search people on the street for guns and then seize them because they know the local community.

“You got to let them do their job, stop and frisk, and take their gun away,” Trump told Fox and Friends. “You’ve got to do it.”

Trump is a half-assed gun-grabber.

He always has been.

He always will be.

[PAF]

I just watched 15000 Trump people raise the roof in AZ as Trump introduced Kennedy.

For years now I have been chastised about "falling for the old divide and conquer" ploy.

I just watched the most significant political "coming together" since Ron Paul in 2008, maybe even more so.

Thousands and thousands of people shouting in the face of outright tyranny, cutting across "party lines" and candidates, to come together in an inspiring way.

And I'm happy and eager to support that.

I will now await the Legion of Doom to come along, throw wet blankets, $#@! all over everything, call me a communist and just generally act like a bunch of old bitter cranks.

Case in point.