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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Right.....the same "deep state" that Trump is bringing into his second term starting with his VP pick JD Vance.



    Sure. That was crimiinal. Criminals always prefer if their crimes are legalized. Your argument is like saying "The ban on child pornography is a joke because it's distributed on the dark web."



    He started cooperating in 2019 before there was a single U.S. death. He could have in 2019 come out and exposed the "experts" both the Fauci biological experts and the Blackrock financial experts. He chose to do the opposite. He also choose to go along with William Barr's cover up of the murder of Jeffery Epstein. William Barr is connected to Jefferey Epstein's now imprisoned girlfriend through her fauther. More of the "deep state" that Trump brought into his cabinet.



    WRONG! On February 17, 2020, Dr. Anthony Fauci publicly said the risk of COVID 19 was "miniscule."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ds/4787209002/

    During that same period Dr. Anthony Fauci was actively suppressing the idea that COVID came from a lab, insisting that it came from nature.

    https://www.heritage.org/public-heal...ab-leak-theory

    These two facts go hand in hand. Viruses in the wild that are easily transmissible from animals to humans usually aren't deadly (i.e. cowpox) and viruses in animals that are very deadly to humans usually aren't that transmissible (i.e. bird flu). The fact that this was an easily transmissble and deadly virus points to it being bioengineered. And Trump was initially going along with Fauci when BOTH were downplaying the seriousness about COVID Trump was working with the very same people you think he was working against. That's because you don't allow yourself to process facts that tell the truth about Trump.



    This particular advisor, Larry Fink, got what he wanted. He got the COVID bailout rolling while Trump and Fauci were still downplaying the seriousness of COVID. Amazing feat.



    He had a choice in freaking 2019 when in America was even thinking about COVID! When Fauci was saying COVID was "miniscule" to cover his own ass, Trump should have been hitting the panic button! Instead he went along with Larry Fink and Fauci.



    Larry Fink and Trump got the bailout ball running in 2019 when NOBODY was being blamed about COVID.



    Trump gassed those people up with absolute bvllshyt. If he had solid evidence to back up his election claims he could have gone on Tucker Carlson himself directly and presented it. And the whole "We'll get Mike Pence to not certify the election" nonsense is what gave people the false hope that their "peaceful protest", which he asked him to go to the capital and do, miight actually accomplish something. Then when some of them, not all of them, went overboard, he left all of them out on a limb including some who werent' even there.



    That's because you are either A) ignoring facts (like the fact that Dr. Fauci was calling COVID 19 a "miniscule" threat in February 2020 just like Trump) or B) just deceiving yourself.
    Trump did not legalize the bioweapon research.

    Trump could not have exposed everything when the media was whipping up a panic and blaming him for every death, and there is no reason to assume he was omniscient and knew everything to expose.

    Trump did not "go along" with the Epstein coverup, and he was the only reason the Epstein operation was shut down.

    The media was hyping the threat of covid, which was not all that serious, and the deepstate flipped to hyping it to ram through their agenda when the media had the public primed.
    The deepstate only downplayed the threat of covid at first so they could fight Trump's attempt to restrict travel from China to keep it out of the country entirely.
    Trump tried to limit the panic the whole way.
    Hitting the panic button would have played right into their hands and you would be using it as evidence he was in on it.

    Your election fraud denial devastates any credibility you had.
    Pence absolutely could have and should have rejected the disputed election slates and sent them back to the states to resolve.
    After the left created the "insurrection" narrative Trump couldn't do anything for the people targeted without getting himself and all his supporters labeled terrorists and hunted down, he had to let it play out in the courts without interference.

    You are just making up nonsense and utterly failing to back up your claim that you could PROVE he was in on it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Demonstrating your ignorance and dishonesty again.
    How so? I would appreciate a thoughtful response in case my knowledge can be supplemented.

    Smith was a confirmed freemason and pilfered the degree rituals to start a new religion cult, based on Mason degrees (which is really only judaism for gentiles, in a nutshell).

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/...ngdom?lang=eng

    The celestial kingdom is the highest of the three degrees or kingdoms of glory in heaven. Those who inherit this kingdom dwell in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. In the scriptures, the glory of the celestial kingdom is compared to the glory of the sun.
    3 degrees? G, that sounds familiar.

    Glory of the sun? As in, the "light of the world"? Light? Lux? Luc......nevermind.

    Hmm, handshakes through a veil and passwords to establish brotherhood in the Temple?

    This must all be coincidence!
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    How so? I would appreciate a thoughtful response in case my knowledge can be supplemented.

    Smith was a confirmed freemason and pilfered the degree rituals to start a new religion cult, based on Mason degrees (which is really only judaism for gentiles, in a nutshell).

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/...ngdom?lang=eng



    3 degrees? G, that sounds familiar.

    Glory of the sun? As in, the "light of the world"? Light? Lux? Luc......nevermind.

    Hmm, handshakes through a veil and passwords to establish brotherhood in the Temple?

    This must all be coincidence!
    I'm not going to argue religion with a satanist.
    Nor am I going to get dragged into irrelevant facets of it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm not going to argue religion with a satanist.
    Nor am I going to get dragged into irrelevant facets of it.
    Keep up the yeoman's work Swordy. It couldn't happen without your continued dedication.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    How so? I would appreciate a thoughtful response in case my knowledge can be supplemented.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm not going to...
    Never have. All you ever do is...

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    ...satanist.
    ...call people names and insult us.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I'm all for RFK Jr. for certain reasons. But the second RFK Jr. joins that Trump camp is the split second that I drop him faster that a lead weight. Face it, you've got such a man crush on that guy Trump, it can be seen from sea to shining sea. But, it is what it is, so whatever. This country deserves everything that it gets, from $8+T to militarized police. Maybe RFK will slap somebody's wrist at the HHS under Trump's rule just so that Trump gets to say that he "did something".


    Oh, and Trump likes RFK Jr. now [not before when RFK Jr. warned him several times during the Bill Gates meetings], because he feels threatened that he [Trump] won't win. Nothing but a self-interest-opportunist. Because Trump was sooo concerned about you and the people that he authorized the revised PREP Act to protection-ism-ize his big pharm buddy donors. Now that the people are on to that and the devastation that it caused, Trump, after bragging on and on endlessly about it [TrumpVaccine!!!], is all of a sudden distancing himself from that just so that he can "win". I'm not stoooopid. Certainly not after reading his newfound idea/venture/proposal to "nationalize" things that should-be-kept-local.


    TPTB at the top who control everything made certain that biden/harris/dnc went so bat-sh|t crazy that the American sheep feel that they have no choice but to vote for Trump - because they need that tax payer money that republicans will give passes on. It was orchestrated. And Miriam didn't give him $100,000,000 just for nothing.




    @DamianTV , ^ this ^ is what I am referring to concerning voting and standing on principles. Btw, the OP video is worth a listen if you haven't yet.
    What I expect is that within two years, we do not have a COUNTRY. Voting for one person is not going to "fix" things. I think Trump is a Wrecking Ball against the Deep State, but even IF he gets in, we are still likely going to lose this country.

    As far as principles go, the only way we survive is if we ALL stand up, UNITED, with AR15s in hand and shape this country into what it should be. We need to be UNITED in the principles that we decide IF we win the coming CIVIL WORLD WAR. And it is not that they have nukes, its that they can take out FOOD DISTRIBUTION and drive those with their hands out to scavenge for food from HONEST people. Thats when ALL PEOPLE DIE OF STARVATION which I think the likely planned outcome.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Thats when ALL PEOPLE DIE OF STARVATION which I think the likely planned outcome.
    The Hunger Games was predictive programming.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    What I expect is that within two years, we do not have a COUNTRY. Voting for one person is not going to "fix" things. I think Trump is a Wrecking Ball against the Deep State, but even IF he gets in, we are still likely going to lose this country.

    As far as principles go, the only way we survive is if we ALL stand up, UNITED, with AR15s in hand and shape this country into what it should be. We need to be UNITED in the principles that we decide IF we win the coming CIVIL WORLD WAR. And it is not that they have nukes, its that they can take out FOOD DISTRIBUTION and drive those with their hands out to scavenge for food from HONEST people. Thats when ALL PEOPLE DIE OF STARVATION which I think the likely planned outcome.
    And Trump losing would help them prepare.
    They will win if they get to kick things off on their schedule and their terms.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And Trump "losing" would help them... kick things off on their schedule and their terms.
    This

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    This
    Better get out there and make sure he wins.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Better get out there and make sure he wins.
    Now it's Kumbaya with you too, now, when just recently it was CommieRFK.

    Oh, I know why. "Trump".

    I do like RFK Jr.'s discussion about Free Markets, it's just a shame that Trump doesn't share those views and won't let RFK anywhere near positions to that affect.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-25-2024 at 07:07 AM.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Now it's Kumbaya with you too, now, when just recently it was CommieRFK.
    What happened to all that "evidence" that RFKJr is a CIA plant? He's not even crowing over the fact that I said it looks like he was right about that. It's odd...



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What happened to all that "evidence" that RFKJr is a CIA plant? He's not even crowing over the fact that I said it looks like he was right about that. It's odd...
    There's a huuuuge difference between being focused and having tunnel vision. He's definitely not the former.
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    There's a huuuuge difference between being focused and having tunnel vision. He's definitely not the former.
    Whichever way the wind blows...

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump did not legalize the bioweapon research.
    It was publicly announced in 2017. He was president then.

    https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we...ction-research

    https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN1ED2FK/

    It's not like it was some secret. But I get it. Trump is only responsible for the things the executive branch did that you agree with.

    Trump could not have exposed everything when the media was whipping up a panic and blaming him for every death, and there is no reason to assume he was omniscient and knew everything to expose. while Dr. Fauci in February 2020 was still calling the risk "miniscule" because Trump, by his own admission, did everything Dr. Fauci told him to do.
    FIFY.

    Trump did not "go along" with the Epstein coverup, and he was the only reason the Epstein operation was shut down.
    LOL. So....when the rest of the world was making "Epstein didn't kill himself" a meme, Trump couldn't once Tweet "Epstein didn't kill himself?" Give me a freaking break! William Barr was associated with Epstein's girlfriend's dad. Trump put William Barr in charge of the DOJ. William Barr covered up Epstein's suicide and Trump 100% acquiesed to Barr doing that and did NOTHING to stop Barr.

    The media was hyping the threat of covid, which was not all that serious, and the deepstate flipped to hyping it to ram through their agenda when the media had the public primed.

    The deepstate only downplayed the threat of covid at first so they could fight Trump's attempt to restrict travel from China to keep it out of the country entirely.
    Trump tried to limit the panic the whole way.
    Wrong. Nobody carred about the freaking travel ban. Dr. Fauci needed to cover his ass because his gain of function research likely caused the pandemic! And the last thing Fauci needed anybody doing in February 2020 is looking into the origins of COVID. Once he got his "Natural origins" paper out there and convinced the whole world that saying the virus came from the Wuhan lab was somehow "racist" he was okay with the panic button being pressed.

    Your election fraud denial devastates any credibility you had.
    Pence absolutely could have and should have rejected the disputed election slates and sent them back to the states to resolve.
    Only to an election fraud cultist like yourself. 1) Trump NEVER gave sufficient evidence to Tucker Carlson to prove the election was actually stolen. I see that you're ignoring that. I halfway expected you to. Tucker's bona fides as a Trump supporter cannot be question. He was Trump's first interview after Trump skipped the first GOP debate. So why didn't Trump provide Tucker with the evidence? 2) The idea that somehow Pence could "save the election" is what drove (some) in the crowd to act irrationally. That's where the whole "Hang Mike Pence" chant came from. I've actually read the plan that sent Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys and other co-conspirators to prison. While what actually happened on January 6th wasn't according to their plan, they did seek to occupy multiple buildings around the Capital in order to force the the counting of the electors to go their way. I'm with Tucker Carlson on this and Rand Paul for that matter. Maybe the election was stolen by the Trump campaign flatly refused to provide evidence of that to their own supporters like Tucker Carlson.

    Please watch this:



    And once you watch it honestly respond to it.

    After the left created the "insurrection" narrative Trump couldn't do anything for the people targeted without getting himself and all his supporters labeled terrorists and hunted down, he had to let it play out in the courts without interference.
    Trump could have gone on Tucker Carlson and actually presented the evidence to Tucker that he was asking for. Better yet, he should have given the eivdence to Tucker or withdrawn the claims.

    You are just making up nonsense and utterly failing to back up your claim that you could PROVE he was in on it.
    You're just ignoring all facts that don't support your world view. You can't even bring yourself ot admit that Dr. Anthony Fauci downplayed COVID in February 2020 in order to cover up his part of funding gain of function research in Wuhan.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Now it's Kumbaya with you too, now, when just recently it was CommieRFK.

    Oh, I know why. "Trump".

    I do like RFK Jr.'s discussion about Free Markets, it's just a shame that Trump doesn't share those views and won't let RFK anywhere near positions to that affect.
    My position on RFKommie hasn't changed, but if Trump fins a use for him where he can do some good and gets his voters that's not going to keep me from supporting Trump, it's not like he made him VP or is going to put him in charge of the EPA.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    My position on RFKommie hasn't changed, but if Trump fins a use for him where he can do some good and gets his voters that's not going to keep me from supporting Trump, it's not like he made him VP or is going to put him in charge of the EPA.
    Would Trump gunning random innocent people down in the street keep you from supporting him?

  21. #78

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And Trump losing would help them prepare.
    They will win if they get to kick things off on their schedule and their terms.
    Lets just say it.

    THIS ELECTION IS A TRAP.

    They are gonna steal it again. Thats when the VIOLENCE starts. Thats when they plan to suspend the Constitution, using the uprising against the fraudulent outcome as their excuse. If they can cast Martial Law, then THEY WIN.

    If the people do not rise up, then they claim victory using the fraudulent election results, and... they win. Either way, they think they are gonna win.

    Lets be clear here.

    Maintaining the United States is NOT THEIR PLAN. In fact, its the exact OPPOSITE. They are desperate and will do ANYTHING to keep power. Election is NOT THEIR PLAN.

    Their real plan is CHAOS AND CIVIL WAR.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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