EXCLUSIVE: "We Have To Think Past November" RFK's VP talks Next Steps, Inflation, DNC, Electio

[PAF]

EXCLUSIVE: "We Have To Think Past November" RFK's VP talks Next Steps, Inflation, DNC, Election 2024
August 20, 2024



https://youtu.be/lAqVn5lRdes


Ron Paul mention at 14:00

[CaptUSA]

Man, it's really hard to get past the vocal fry...

But from the first few minutes, she seems like a well-intentioned, yet very naive, young girl.

[PAF]

Man, it's really hard to get past the vocal fry...

But from the first few minutes, she seems like a well-intentioned, yet very naive, young girl.

It's a productive conversation.

She mentioned Ron Paul at around 14:00


She's kinda cute

@Swordsmyth , hands off, she's mine lol

[PAF]

In other words: She didn't put millions of dollars into the campaign just to drop out. She encourages everybody to join the Independents, the 51% who want something better.

[PAF]

Starting at 26:50 she talks about voluntary systems and goes on to give an example. Tom appeared pleasantly surprised.

These are the conversations that should be had. Aside from their stupid tariff war "contest", the other 2 partays are mum.

[PAF]

The OP Exclusive is well worth the watch. She also had the pleasure of speaking with Ron Paul:

Nicole Shanahan: "Had the pleasure of speaking with the legendary Dr. @ronpaul about the importance of morality in America, Austrian economics, and his reasoning for ending the Fed. We also explored how natural law and reducing government overreach will be key to our nation's revival. Enjoy!"

[susano]

It's a productive conversation.

She mentioned Ron Paul at around 14:00


She's kinda cute

@Swordsmyth , hands off, she's mine lol

Yes, she is cute. Adorable. First time I've heard. Got about 20 mins and they're talking Bitcoin as a possible solution. I dunno.

[PAF]

Yes, she is cute. Adorable. First time I've heard. Got about 20 mins and they're talking Bitcoin as a possible solution. I dunno.

That's just one topic that they talked about. The important thing is that they are exploring alternatives to what we have dealt with under both parties. She brought up a voluntary solution which warrants consideration. She wants to audit the fed, reduce the size the size of govt. and legitimately get rid of the bureaucracy.

I'm not one to come to for advice, I am an anarchist and have an extreme view. That said, for people who get the severe shakes and need medication unless they get that "I Voted!" sticker, I am suggesting to really take a good look at RFK Jr./Shanahan. What's the worse that can happen, considering the 8 years that we had under Trump/Biden [$8 Trillion / $7 Trillion] and the corruption that they both support. Change is difficult, but if you want change, you gotta to start somewhere. Otherwise, it's 4 years more of the same whichever side you feel comfortable with.

[Anti Federalist]

Man, it's really hard to get past the vocal fry...

But from the first few minutes, she seems like a well-intentioned, yet very naive, young girl.

Arrg...I know...I cannot listen to that.

[PAF]

Arrg...I know...I cannot listen to that.

That's too bad. She actually had a few solutions that I agreed with and would work. But, some people aren't really interested in improving anything, certainly not when the tamber of a voice isn't correct. Voluntarist solutions are overrated anyway, mandated protectionist government laws are definitely the way to go

[Anti Federalist]

What's the worse that can happen,

Oh, let's see...death camps, GULAGs, armed troops confiscating all private property not just guns, release of hundreds of thousands of violent criminals to make room for hundreds of thousands political prisoners, deaths of millions of elderly, infirm and retired as the system they rely on and "paid in to" utterly collapses, confiscation of farmland resulting in mass starvation events such as people slaughtering zoo animals for food, the re-writing of the US Constitution so as to remove any protection of natural rights...just off the top of my head.

Now, I know, as an anarchist, you despise the concept of a nation and you despise this nation, and the people in it.

Well, I can understand that, there's not much love lost between me and your run of the mill average AmeriKunt these days.

But this new class of invaders are notch above that.

When times get tough they eat each other.

They will eat you.

You can wave a copy of Atlas Shrugged or The Wealth of Nations in their face all day long, and they won't give a flying $#@!, other than to maybe rip the pages out to start the fire to roast your ass on.

I'm not telling you or asking you to vote for Trump...I know as well as you do how ridiculous it all is.

I'm asking you to reflect, for just a moment, to realize that no man is an island, that liberty and a society that protects it and allows it to flourish, comes from both individual and collective efforts, of man working together with his fellow man to make something better, to build a society where freedom can grow.

That's all.

[A. Havnes]

That's too bad. She actually had a few solutions that I agreed with and would work. But, some people aren't really interested in improving anything, certainly not when the tamber of a voice isn't correct. Voluntarist solutions are overrated anyway, mandated protectionist government laws are definitely the way to go

Anyone who can listen to Kennedy’s voice can listen to hers, and I hope more people here do. Wonderful conversation!

[Anti Federalist]

That's too bad. She actually had a few solutions that I agreed with and would work. But, some people aren't really interested in improving anything, certainly not when the tamber of a voice isn't correct. Voluntarist solutions are overrated anyway, mandated protectionist government laws are definitely the way to go

I did listen and agree.

But vocal fry still drives me crazy.

[PAF]

@Anti Federalist

You're telling me that "no man is an island", and that "voting" is the only way out of this. Then consider that I am proposing/promoting a "solution", and that RFK Jr. has litigated and won against Monsanto and others, will not implement militarized leo with immunity, will not sell Javelins to Ukraine, will not entertain lgbtq welfare like the likes of Kamy would, and can be a viable option. This coming from an anarchist. What else do you want? RFK Jr. inside of Trump's body?

I just don't get it. I mean, this is Ron Paul Forums. Ron Paul himself is entertaining both RFK Jr. and Nicole as something to at least consider. He's not doing all of that for nothing.

[susano]

That's just one topic that they talked about. The important thing is that they are exploring alternatives to what we have dealt with under both parties. She brought up a voluntary solution which warrants consideration. She wants to audit the fed, reduce the size the size of govt. and legitimately get rid of the bureaucracy.

I'm not one to come to for advice, I am an anarchist and have an extreme view. That said, for people who get the severe shakes and need medication unless they get that "I Voted!" sticker, I am suggesting to really take a good look at RFK Jr./Shanahan. What's the worse that can happen, considering the 8 years that we had under Trump/Biden [$8 Trillion / $7 Trillion] and the corruption that they both support. Change is difficult, but if you want change, you gotta to start somewhere. Otherwise, it's 4 years more of the same whichever side you feel comfortable with.

I'm not comfortable with anything, lol. The charming lady and RFK Jr don't stand a chance of having any near future impact about anything. They may influence a few minds, though. The problem is that there are zillions of competing ideas vs people in the parties who are really serious about power and winning at any cost. Note that Nancy Pelosi just released a book called "The Art of Power", which sums her up perfectly. The psychopaths always come out on top because they want it so much and every fiber of their being is dedicated to winning. The mass people, every four years, go on about "change" and the only change that happens is things get worse. I listened to a little of the Democrap convention and it's just scary how over the top enthralled those NPCs are. They scream for every speaker like each one is the Beatles. Then we have Trump claiming Taylor Swift is supporting him. FFS. It's all one big clown show and getting more extreme and bizarre every day. I don't think things are gonna turn out well in our lifetimes. The ONLY reason I can think of to vote is to keep the commies at bay.

[Anti Federalist]

You're telling me that "no man is an island", and that "voting" is the only way out of this.

No, read again, I said, specifically that voting was NOT the only way out of this, that it was, quote "ridiculous".

I'm not telling you or asking you to vote for Trump...I know as well as you do how ridiculous it all is.

You don't have to do anything, just keep an open mind if, and that is big IF, RFK decides to join the Trump campaign.

Since nobody is willing to pick up a rifle and start the fight that we all know is coming, this is one of the few options left.

[PAF]

double post

[PAF]

No, read again, I said, specifically that voting was NOT the only way out of this, that it was, quote "ridiculous".


You don't have to do anything, just keep an open mind if, and that is big IF, RFK decides to join the Trump campaign.

Since nobody is willing to pick up a rifle and start the fight that we all know is coming, this is one of the few options left.

I'm all for RFK Jr. for certain reasons. But the second RFK Jr. joins that Trump camp is the split second that I drop him faster that a lead weight. Face it, you've got such a man crush on that guy Trump, it can be seen from sea to shining sea. But, it is what it is, so whatever. This country deserves everything that it gets, from $8+T to militarized police. Maybe RFK will slap somebody's wrist at the HHS under Trump's rule just so that Trump gets to say that he "did something".


Oh, and Trump likes RFK Jr. now [not before when RFK Jr. warned him several times during the Bill Gates meetings], because he feels threatened that he [Trump] won't win. Nothing but a self-interest-opportunist. Because Trump was sooo concerned about you and the people that he authorized the revised PREP Act to protection-ism-ize his big pharm buddy donors. Now that the people are on to that and the devastation that it caused, Trump, after bragging on and on endlessly about it [TrumpVaccine!!!], is all of a sudden distancing himself from that just so that he can "win". I'm not stoooopid. Certainly not after reading his newfound idea/venture/proposal to "nationalize" things that should-be-kept-local.


TPTB at the top who control everything made certain that biden/harris/dnc went so bat-sh|t crazy that the American sheep feel that they have no choice but to vote for Trump - because they need that tax payer money that republicans will give passes on. It was orchestrated. And Miriam didn't give him $100,000,000 just for nothing.




@DamianTV , ^ this ^ is what I am referring to concerning voting and standing on principles. Btw, the OP video is worth a listen if you haven't yet.

[Anti Federalist]

The second RFK Jr. joins that Trump camp is the split second that I drop him faster that a lead weight. Face it, you've got such a man crush on that guy Trump, it can be seen from sea to shining sea. But, it is what it is, so whatever. This country deserves everything that it gets, from $8+T to militarized police. Maybe RFK will slap somebody's wrist at the HHS under Trump's rule just so that Trump gets to say that he "did something".


Oh, and Trump likes RFK Jr. now [not before when RFK Jr. warned him several times during the Bill Gates meetings], because he feels threatened that he [Trump] won't win. Nothing but a self-interest-opportunist. Because Trump was sooo concerned about you and the people that he authorized the revised PREP Act to protection-ism-ize his big pharm buddy donors. Now that the people are on to that and the devastation that it caused, Trump, after bragging on and on endlessly about it [TrumpVaccine!!!], is all of a sudden distancing himself from that just so that he can "win". I'm not stoooopid. Certainly not after reading his newfound idea/venture/proposal to "nationalize" things that should-be-kept-local.


TPTB at the top who control everything made certain that biden/harris/dnc went so bat-sh|t crazy that the American sheep feel that they have no choice but to vote for Trump - because they need that tax payer money that republicans will give passes on. It was orchestrated. And Miriam didn't give him $100,000,000 just for nothing.

What a shame...

[acptulsa]

That's all.

You have one massive appetite for fear porn.

[CaptUSA]

Ok, I've had a chance to watch in full.

Here are my takes:

Vocal fry is annoying as $#@! - RFK gets a pass for his voice; she chose that dialect to sound "cool" to her peers

She reluctantly sees the benefit of SCOTUS overturning Chevron - that's great

She talks about Citizens United and corporations buying politicians, but misses the point entirely. We don't need more government restrictions, we need to eliminate the power of politicians to affect commerce - then, there will be no influence to buy. In other words, she blames the corporations instead of the power of the state. It's backwards. It is the power of the state that creates the incentive for corporations to influence the politicians in the first place. I think with a proper education and more experience, she may be able to be brought around.

On inflation, she seems to know what she's supposed to say, but I don't think she has a firm understanding of monetary policy. I'm glad that she recognizes that reducing spending is the primary fix, but I'm not sure she fully grasps the connection. The interviewer had a better grasp.

I REALLY like that she understands that the same people controlling our currency are the ones who control our speech.

She was asked how to cut spending and she went on a weird diatribe about millennials and genX and boomers - which, in my opinion, completely misstated the differences. When she returned to spending, she talked about accountability (and then said the millennials are more accountable, which is why they jump jobs more - huh?!) She thinks government is a transactional body - um no, it's force. Sorry, hun. But somehow technology will help government spend less?

She talks about voluntary policy, but then talks about increasing inheritance tax to create economic stimulus. But you can avoid the tax if you put the money towards something the government deems "stimulatory". (as if giving the wealth I've earned during my life to my children to use as they see fit isn't stimulatory.) In short, she doesn't understand that wealth is created - she thinks there's wealth sitting around doing nothing - and we need to redistribute that according to government's needs.

Her idea of the basic functions of government are: clean food, water, public utilities and other "public goods". Sorry, sister. The role of government is to ensure individual liberty. That's it. And she doesn't want "smaller" government as much as she wants "efficient" government. (Make the trains run on time??)

She correctly named Trump's Achilles' heel as Big Pharma - but I think his real Achilles' heel was his need to be liked and seen as a hero and Big Pharma capitalized on his narcissistic need.

She trusts the leadership of Trump's team more than that of the Harris team. For me, it's not about trust as much as it is about track record. I've worked with the DNC department heads and they will do as much and more than they can get away with. If they lose in the courts, they'll just try again another way. They are actively trying to expand government scope in EVERY aspect - foreign adventurism, speech, entitlements, regulation, you name it. And they just do it without legislation and hope they don't get stopped.

In summary, I think she needs to learn more. She probably needs to spend more time with Ron Paul. Still a little naive. Her heart is in the right place, but I wouldn't want her in a leadership position just yet. I'm sure there could be a role for her, but VP isn't it. RFK has made some bad choices and she is one of them. (Israel is another) I am glad that she woke up from her support of Schumer and the DNC! I hope she can lead more people away from that in the future.

[acptulsa]

I'm sure there could be a role for her, but VP isn't it.

In an ideal world. In this one we get to compare her to Vance and Wald.

She wins hands down.

[nobody's_hero]

You have one massive appetite for fear porn.

Um, isn't this yours?:

How they'll set Trump up to be installed as dictator

It seems to be a thread literally mimicking the MSM's talking points about Trump bringing about a dictatorship.

[acptulsa]

Um, isn't this yours?:

How they'll set Trump up to be installed as dictator

It seems to be a thread literally mimicking the MSM's talking points about Trump bringing about a dictatorship.

Believe them when they tell you.

The fear porn is trying to distract conservatives from the fact that the most dangerous and deadly entity on the face of the earth today is the U.S. Government. Nobody kills more people. Do you doubt the veracity of the statement? That's how I identify real threats.

[Swordsmyth]

Believe them when they tell you.

The fear porn is trying to distract conservatives from the fact that the most dangerous and deadly entity on the face of the earth today is the U.S. Government. Nobody kills more people. Do you doubt the veracity of the statement? That's how I identify real threats.

They tell you what they will do, and they tell you what they will do by projecting it on their opponents.
You should never believe them when they say what their opponents will do.

[Swordsmyth]

Um, isn't this yours?:

How they'll set Trump up to be installed as dictator

It seems to be a thread literally mimicking the MSM's talking points about Trump bringing about a dictatorship.

Far from the only time he's done that.

[acptulsa]

You should never believe them when they say what their opponents will do.

They aren't their opponents, we are.

[nobody's_hero]

[Todd]

Is it just me or is she pretty easy on the eyes. Or maybe I'm just older with lower standards. lol...

[PAF]

Is it just me or is she pretty easy on the eyes. Or maybe I'm just older with lower standards. lol...

I already told Swordy hands off. I'd tell you the same but, she's hitched already lol

It's a productive conversation.

She mentioned Ron Paul at around 14:00


She's kinda cute

@Swordsmyth , hands off, she's mine lol