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    Donald Trump's 2024 POTUS campaign

    Didn't see a campaign thread for him.



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    All 20 sound good to me 👍
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Didn't see a campaign thread for him.




    Maybe Ron Paul will see that list and have something to say about it. Keeping in mind that it might take more than an episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Didn't see a campaign thread for him.



    As a strong fiscal conservative, there is a glaring hole in that list.

    And it's the hole where Schumer, McConnell, Johnson, and Jeffries drive huge Omnibuses right down America's throat, and Trump will sign them all.

    Hyper-inflation here we come...
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    https://x.com/i/status/1823023385661640959

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    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1823061456818233852

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    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    As a strong fiscal conservative, there is a glaring hole in that list.

    And it's the hole where Schumer, McConnell, Johnson, and Jeffries drive huge Omnibuses right down America's throat, and Trump will sign them all.

    Hyper-inflation here we come...
    Trump is going to reclaim Impoundment and use it to deal with that.
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    https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1823105274619769224



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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Misleading. That was the plane formerly owned by Jeffrey Epstein and now owned by a charter company. There's no connection between the current owners and Epstein.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Misleading. That was the plane formerly owned by Jeffrey Epstein and now owned by a charter company. There's no connection between the current owners and Epstein.
    I'm not sure how you can say that with certainty. No proven connection, perhaps. But large purchases are often made to people who have or had a relationship to the seller. Very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm not sure how you can say that with certainty. No proven connection, perhaps. But large purchases are often made to people who have or had a relationship to the seller. Very often.
    That still puts it short of making a Trump connection.
    He chartered a plane when his broke down, that's all.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Misleading. That was the plane formerly owned by Jeffrey Epstein and now owned by a charter company. There's no connection between the current owners and Epstein.

    Not for nothin, what are the odds that of all the possible planes you might rent, you get Epstein's...

    It's just bizarre.

    Like, is this the infamous plane which flew everyone from Clinton to Dershowitz?
    Last edited by unknown; 08-13-2024 at 07:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm not sure how you can say that with certainty. No proven connection, perhaps. But large purchases are often made to people who have or had a relationship to the seller. Very often.
    @jmdrake is correct

    N550GP is a Gulfstream G550 owned by a "fractional leasing" outfit in Ontario CA, named after the aircraft's "N" number.

    N550GP LLC

    https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInq...umberTxt=550GP

    That LLC in turn, operates the aircraft under the umbrella of Threshold Aviation.

    https://www.flytti.com/charter/N550GP.htm


    Donald Trump’s campaign confirmed the former president chartered a private jet this weekend that once belonged to Jeffrey Epstein, but said he did so by accident.

    A campaign official told The Daily Beast on Monday afternoon that Trump and his staff had “no idea” the Gulfstream G550 was once owned by one of the country’s most infamous sex traffickers. The official said the jet was provided to the campaign by a charter flight company.

    “The campaign had absolutely no idea the aircraft we rented was previously owned by Mr. Epstein,” the official said, adding that Trump’s advisers only learned of the jet’s shady past once journalists contacted them Monday.

    Trump’s camp said he took only one flight on the jet—a relatively short, 363 mile hop from Jackson Hole, Wyoming, to Aspen, Colorado, where he was attending fundraisers on the campaign trail. He flew back to Florida on Saturday night in a separate chartered plane as his private aircraft, Trump Force One, was still undergoing repairs in Montana.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-13-2024 at 07:49 AM.
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    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That still puts it short of making a Trump connection.
    That's what I said. Neither proves nor disproves. Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Not for nothin, what are the odds that of all the possible planes you might rent, you get Epstein's...

    It's just bizarre.

    Like, is this the infamous plane which flew everyone from Clinton to Dershowitz?
    There's only 125 G500s in service worldwide.

    With a 16 passenger capacity and a $50 million price tag, they are at the high end of the biz jet world.

    125 to 1 are long odds, but not stupid crazy odds either.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's what I said. Neither proves nor disproves. Correct.
    It's impossible to prove a negative. As far as I know you are somehow connected to Jeffrey Epstein's plane. What we know is that there is currently no evidence of a connection beyond Trump being one of multiple people to have chartered the plane since it was sold. I suppose the plane could be sold for scrap or donated to a victims of sexual violence museum or something.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's what I said. Neither proves nor disproves. Correct.
    It's disproved.

    Trump has no stake in the plane, the charter company or the parent company's business.

    The campaign was in a bind because the 757 broke down.

    They called an aircraft concierge service or brokerage company, and asked "What do have in Jackson Hole that can fly the former president and a security detail to Aspen today?"

    They provided N550GP.

    The end.

    This cigar is just a cigar.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It's disproved.
    Define "it" or sit down, Clinton.

    The airplane belongs to a rental outfit that got it from Epstein's estate, or Epstein's boss Mossad, or whatever the details were. And Trump's campaign used that particular rental outfit.

    Coincidence or a chain of causality borne of connections? I don't know. You don't know. Those who do know won't come here and say. Is it the same jet Trump flew north out of Florida on that one day back when Epstein was overtly alive?

    Probably a nothing burger. Put probably on the sentence and I'm happy to stand by it. But at the rate conspiracy theories are being confirmed these days, I can't guarantee it's a nothing burger.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-13-2024 at 08:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It's disproved.

    Trump has no stake in the plane, the charter company or the parent company's business.

    The campaign was in a bind because the 757 broke down.

    They called an aircraft concierge service or brokerage company, and asked "What do have in Jackson Hole that can fly the former president and a security detail to Aspen today?"

    They provided N550GP.

    The end.

    This cigar is just a cigar.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.


    Good summation. Add to that the "que bueno" or "who benefits" question that must be applied to every conspiracy theory. How could Trump possibly benefit from paying to cherter a plane that happened to previously belong to Jeffery Epstein as opposed to any other plane? The only possible conspiracy is that the charter company purposefully provided that particular plane just to embarras Trump but that seems like a stretch too. Non story.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    How could Trump possibly benefit from paying to charter a plane that happened to previously belong to Jeffery Epstein as opposed to any other plane?
    This particular charter company was kind enough to paint it Trump Airlines Blue -- maybe in time for the enamel to get dry before his 757 broke down.

    Suppose they charged extra for that? If it is that particular plane, he rode on it free before. Suppose he's doing it now, because he helped the broker make the deal? Suppose he's riding free because he knows who his Administration let into a certain New York prison cell? If Mossad has owned the plane all along, and also owns the leasing company...

    Come on. Possible motives abound on this nothing burger. One can imagine dozens.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-13-2024 at 08:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Misleading. That was the plane formerly owned by Jeffrey Epstein and now owned by a charter company. There's no connection between the current owners and Epstein.
    AGREED THAT THE CHARTER FOLKs GOT THE PLANE AT A FIRE SALE DISCOUNT BUT THE OPTICKs LOOK HORRID,
    GIVEN THAT TRUMP's GRANDFATHER MAY HAVE RUN AN EXOTIC BROTHEL ON THE WEST COAST, AND TRUMP DID
    SEVEN TRIPs ON EPSTEIN's PLANE BACK IN THE DAY. Many more than Bill Clinton and/or Prince Andrew. Go figure...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    AGREED THAT THE CHARTER FOLKs GOT THE PLANE AT A FIRE SALE DISCOUNT BUT THE OPTICKs LOOK HORRID,
    GIVEN THAT TRUMP's GRANDFATHER MAY HAVE RUN AN EXOTIC BROTHEL ON THE WEST COAST, AND TRUMP DID
    SEVEN TRIPs ON EPSTEIN's PLANE BACK IN THE DAY. Many more than Bill Clinton and/or Prince Andrew. Go figure...
    Bill Clinton flew 9 times. I agree the optics are bad. Trump was a friend and associate of Epstein. Just both their names coming up again in a story isnt' good because it reminds people of that. I could see someone at the charter company who was a Democrat quitely providing Trump with that plane just to embarass him. I don't see anyone in the Trump campaign requesting that particular plane for any reason.

    Donald Trump appears to have flown on Jeffrey Epstein’s private jets six more times than was previously known, according to flight logs released as evidence in Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial. Previous disclosures of portions of Epstein’s flight log have shown world leaders, billionaires and celebrities among the many passengers who have flown on Epstein’s private jets. TOP VIDEOS The video player is currently playing an ad. You can skip the ad in 5 sec with a mouse or keyboard The new log released as evidence in Maxwell’s case stretches back earlier than previous releases. Decades before he became president, Trump flew four times in 1993, once in 1994 and once in 1995, in addition to a flight in 1997 that had been documented in portions of the flight log previously released. The flights were all between Palm Beach and New York City airports, with the June 1994 flight stopping at Ronald Reagan Washington Washington National Airport between Palm Beach and New York. READ NEXT CRIME The challenge presented to Ghislaine Maxwell jury: 4 accusers and a wide array of charges DECEMBER 20, 2021 8:18 AM A woman named Marla, apparently Trump’s then-wife Marla Maples, is listed as joining him on the June 1994 flight, along with a Tiffany, apparently their then-infant daughter, and a nanny. Trump’s son Eric is listed as joining him on an August 1995 flight between Palm Beach and New York.

    That’s still fewer than former President Bill Clinton, who flew on Epstein’s jets on at least nine different dates according to the flight records released as evidence, and reportedly far more times than that. The extent of Clinton’s travel on Epstein flights was already reported, however.

    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...#storylink=cpy
    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...#storylink=cpy
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    This particular charter company was kind enough to paint it Trump Airlines Blue -- maybe in time for the enamel to get dry before his 757 broke down.

    Suppose they charged extra for that? If it is that particular plane, he rode on it free before. Suppose he's doing it now, because he helped the broker make the deal? Suppose he's riding free because he knows who his Administration let into a certain New York prison cell? If Mossad has owned the plane all along, and also owns the leasing company...

    Come on. Possible motives abound on this nothing burger. One can imagine dozens.
    That's a reason to choose that company, but not a reason for the Trump campaign to knowingly choose to charter a plane previously owned by Epstein. Not unless Trump just really is trying to throw the election. Occassionally Trump has done things that make me think that but this isn't one of them.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    i wasn't aware of Bill C's number of trips... and yes, he MAY have been on that particular plane more times than DJT was,
    when Mister Epstein owned it, but again, the optics look horrid. Every now and then campaigns are very short sighted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    This particular charter company was kind enough to paint it Trump Airlines Blue -- maybe in time for the enamel to get dry before his 757 broke down.

    Suppose they charged extra for that? If it is that particular plane, he rode on it free before. Suppose he's doing it now, because he helped the broker make the deal? Suppose he's riding free because he knows who his Administration let into a certain New York prison cell? If Mossad has owned the plane all along, and also owns the leasing company...

    Come on. Possible motives abound on this nothing burger. One can imagine dozens.
    Here's N550GP painted dark blue from pictures dated from last year.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/burmar...ol-846041@N21/
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Occassionally Trump has done things that make me think that but this isn't one of them.
    I hear you. But this doesn't rise to that level. It won't cost him the election.

    This whole century so far has been rife with this stuff, these little clues. It's so bizarre. It's like one litmus test after another to see who has "eyes to see and ears to hear", as Jesus said. Is it pure chutzpah when Biden whispers to a reporter, "Inflation isn't a bug, it's a feature"? How about when cops are shown on video ignoring warnings about the sniper on the roof? It's a matter of public record that Israel created Hamas, just as we created ISIS. Are they just sadists? Some of you are smart enough to see this, and we let you see it, but we've got most heads stuffed up most asses, and there's nothing you can do to stop us LOL!

    Or is it part of their deal with the devil, and part of the devil's deal with God, that these hints must be dropped to help The Elect see through the bull and hang onto faith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.


    Good summation. Add to that the "que bueno" or "who benefits" question that must be applied to every conspiracy theory. How could Trump possibly benefit from paying to cherter a plane that happened to previously belong to Jeffery Epstein as opposed to any other plane? The only possible conspiracy is that the charter company purposefully provided that particular plane just to embarras Trump but that seems like a stretch too. Non story.
    That's a good point as well.

    It was the one I was trying to make in the "Trump Shot" thread.

    If the powers that be are doing all this in an elaborate conspiracy to install Trump as a dictator, why'd they try to kill him?
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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