Harris erases Trump's RCP lead, Trump behind for the first time since Oct 2023

[69360]

She is in the honeymoon period. Maybe it will stick. Probably not. Who knows anymore?

[nobody's_hero]

I have young children, so I am compelled to vote for self-preservation and the faction that doesn't want us dead.

True, and if it's really going to get worse no matter what, you haven't really lost anything.

I tried not voting for a while. I didn't get the impression that the-powers-that-be noticed my absence.

If voting is ineffective, not-voting seems to be just as.

[Anti Federalist]

I have young children, so I am compelled to vote for self-preservation and the faction that doesn't want us dead.

My children aren't young.

But my grandchildren are.

And I am doing the same.

[Anti Federalist]

Harris increases her margin in the RCP average to +0.5.

New poll has her up +4.0 over Trump.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...2408050954.pdf

[Swordsmyth]

[acptulsa]

Harris increases her margin in the RCP average to +0.5.

New poll has her up +4.0 over Trump.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...2408050954.pdf

You're really transfixed by these cooked numbers, aren't you? Did we learn nothing from FUFrank in 2008?

[69360]

Hillary was up 7 at this point in 2016. Who knows what might happen?

[Intrepid]

Kind of impressive for someone whose campaign has only been going on for a month and has the corniest political ads in the history of politics.

With absolutely ZERO on their website on policy positions.

Unbelievable.

[PAF]

With absolutely ZERO on their website on policy positions.

Unbelievable.

Yep, I noticed that too. As if Trump's last term, and agenda on his own website if/when he becomes re-elected isn't alarming... Harris is still On the Record here:

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-i...lator/h001075/

I have to admit, though her stance on Ukraine is wrong, she actually has a pretty decent Foreign Policy record, and is against a domestic police-state.

[PAF]

Yep, I noticed that too. As if Trump's last term, and agenda on his own website if/when he becomes re-elected isn't alarming... Harris is still On the Record here:

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-i...lator/h001075/

I have to admit, though her stance on Ukraine is wrong, she actually has a pretty decent Foreign Policy record, and is against a domestic police-state.

It is known that I am anti-state, and government will not save us. That said, this illustrates the dangers of political "factions".

Folks like @Anti Federalist and others would see Harris' very favorable Foreign Policy and Anti-Domestic Surveillance record and quickly dismiss her, in favor of electing a president known for further communizing nationalizing and implementing anti-BoR "solutions", simply because of a letter after a name.

And the fact that Harris rejected Netanyahu's invitation to meet because she rejects his policies and believes that it should be up to the people in that region if they opt for a 2-state solution.


Those truly principled would highlight the good and expect their own faction to do the same, while at the same time criticize the negatives and hold their own faction accountable. Because if you can't hold your own faction accountable and at a higher standard than the other faction, how are you or your faction any better?

But: left, right, march in lock-step.


When people can't see beyond the letter of the alphabet and make every excuse. Right, @LibertyEagle ?

Last term:

Bump Stock Ban
Support Red Flag Confiscation Laws
Signed Fix NICS
Support TAPS Act
Support Toomey-Manchin Background Checks
Brand new militarized federal agency Operation Warp Speed
Brand new militarized federal agency Space Force
$8.2+ Trillion

Upcoming term:

Nationalized Stop and Frisk
Nationalized Local LEO Immunity
Nationalized University by taxing/fining/taking Private donations
Etc.

[luctor-et-emergo]

With absolutely ZERO on their website on policy positions.

Unbelievable.

Wow, I couldn't believe that so I had a look. Just wow. But I guess she's a Asian-Black woman so in the eyes of many of the lefties, that's already enough, they don't even need to read the most likely fluffed up mini-biography that is on there instead of policy.

[LibertyEagle]

Yep, I noticed that too. As if Trump's last term, and agenda on his own website if/when he becomes re-elected isn't alarming... Harris is still On the Record here:

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-i...lator/h001075/

I have to admit, though her stance on Ukraine is wrong, she actually has a pretty decent Foreign Policy record, and is against a domestic police-state.

Yeah, that is why she has stated her plan of confiscating everyone’s guns. Because she doesn’t want a police state. And her VP’s belief that there is really no such thing as free speech.

By the way, noticing what is going on in the UK?

[luctor-et-emergo]

Folks like @Anti Federalist and others would see Harris' very favorable Foreign Policy and Anti-Domestic Surveillance record and quickly dismiss her, in favor of electing a president known for further communizing nationalizing and implementing anti-BoR "solutions", simply because of a letter after a name.

I don't her voting record is necessarily that important. She's vice president now, what has she actually done as vice president to stop wars and domestic surveillance? Also, are these her focus topics?

[luctor-et-emergo]

By the way, noticing what is going on in the UK?

I just read an article that they allowed muslim counterprotestors (in the hundreds) to wield knives, with the police arguing that they were 'self policing' or some ridiculous argument. This was in response to a question why they didn't arrest these people but did arrest the NDL supporters. But I guess I'm a bit closer to the fire so it's more big in the news here.

Bigger than that, we have a war in Ukraine that just expanded into Russia (although minor). We have Iran and half of the middle east that wants to attack Israel again. We have China that would like to take Taiwan. Then political stability in the Western countries seems to be lowering.... Sounds like WW3 is around the corner.

[PAF]

Yeah, that is why she has stated her plan of confiscating everyone’s guns. Because she doesn’t want a police state. And her VP’s belief that there is really no such thing as free speech.

By executive order, like Trump did in his last term? After he ranted on and on wanting to raise the age to buy guns? And Trump:

Supports Red Flag Confiscation Laws
Signed Fix NICS
Supports TAPS Act
Supports Toomey-Manchin Background Checks


Yeah, I guess everything that I took the time to write went completely over your head. Which is why there is no hope in this country anymore.

[PAF]

I don't her voting record is necessarily that important. She's vice president now, what has she actually done as vice president to stop wars and domestic surveillance? Also, are these her focus topics?

Yeah, voting records aren't important. I would much rather take Trump's podium rhetoric in 2016 and now, and dismiss everything that he actually did.

I don't know if they are her focus topics or not. I only know how she voted in the Senate and how much she rejects Netanyahu.

You guys have fun working it out, I'll be picking weeds out of my lawn that day.

[Cleaner44]

Harris increases her margin in the RCP average to +0.5.

New poll has her up +4.0 over Trump.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...2408050954.pdf

The polling is rigged by oversampling Democrat voters. It is all about creating the perception that the election is close so the steal seems plausible. That is why Biden had to go.

[PAF]

It is known that I am anti-state, and government will not save us. That said, this illustrates the dangers of political "factions".

Folks like @Anti Federalist and others would see Harris' very favorable Foreign Policy and Anti-Domestic Surveillance record and quickly dismiss her, in favor of electing a president known for further communizing nationalizing and implementing anti-BoR "solutions", simply because of a letter after a name.

And the fact that Harris rejected Netanyahu's invitation to meet because she rejects his policies and believes that it should be up to the people in that region if they opt for a 2-state solution.


Those truly principled would highlight the good and expect their own faction to do the same, while at the same time criticize the negatives and hold their own faction accountable. Because if you can't hold your own faction accountable and at a higher standard than the other faction, how are you or your faction any better?

But: left, right, march in lock-step.


When people can't see beyond the letter of the alphabet and make every excuse. Right, @LibertyEagle ?

Last term:

Bump Stock Ban
Support Red Flag Confiscation Laws
Signed Fix NICS
Support TAPS Act
Support Toomey-Manchin Background Checks
Brand new militarized federal agency Operation Warp Speed
Brand new militarized federal agency Space Force
$8.2+ Trillion

Upcoming term:

Nationalized Stop and Frisk
Nationalized Local LEO Immunity
Nationalized University by taxing/fining/taking Private donations
More tariffs than he, or even Biden proposed
Etc.

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[Anti Federalist]

It is known that I am anti-state, and government will not save us. That said, this illustrates the dangers of political "factions".

Folks like @Anti Federalist and others would see Harris' very favorable Foreign Policy and Anti-Domestic Surveillance record and quickly dismiss her, in favor of electing a president known for further communizing nationalizing and implementing anti-BoR "solutions", simply because of a letter after a name.

And the fact that Harris rejected Netanyahu's invitation to meet because she rejects his policies and believes that it should be up to the people in that region if they opt for a 2-state solution.

This you?

Deregulation is great. But not when passing into law complete immunity for Big Pharm and Local LEO - all while increasing the debt by giving away federal tax dollars to those special interests. And then go on to pardon actual criminals who harm people, while not granting pardons to heroes who warn about such things.

The Donald Trump-inspired rise of “populist nationalist conservatism” - America Reaches a Sad Milestone

Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.

[PAF]

This you?

Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.

Once again you are missing the entire point. It is one thing to deregulate which I am all for, but it is completely something else when one signs legislation which protects companies, agencies, and LEO from being sued in the event of damage/harm/death.

Do you not get that?

Furthermore, while there are folks like me who have been working and trying our a$$es off to bring things back to local, it's one he|| of a slap in the face to support/vote for somebody who openly announces and wants to federalize programs, and has done so in the past.

Do you not get that?

[Anti Federalist]

Once again you are missing the entire point. It is one thing to deregulate which I am all for, but it is completely something else when one signs legislation which protects companies, agencies, and LEO from being sued in the event of damage/harm/death.

Do you not get that?

Furthermore, while there are folks like me who have been working and trying our a$$es off to bring things back to local, it's one he|| of a slap in the face to support/vote for somebody who openly announces and wants to federalize programs, and has done so in the past.

Do you not get that?

Yep...minarchist.

Turn in your purity card.

[jmdrake]

Yep...minarchist.

Turn in your purity card.

I'm not an an cap but I can play one on the internet. This is what I think @PAF is saying. Government shouldn't be picking winners and losers. It's like I'm sure you'd rather nobody be taxed but it the government only excempted illegal immigrants from taxation you'd have a problem with that (as would I). I seem to recall you don't favor EV tax breaks either? So government favored treatments bet excempted from lawsuits but if a Amish person sells elberberry elixer he can still get sued. The cure my ex told me to take for COVID costs $3.00 a bottle. There's no way she could get a clinical trial for that because there's no money to be made from it. She just tried it on her patients and it worked.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm not an an cap but I can play one on the internet. This is what I think @PAF is saying. Government shouldn't be picking winners and losers. It's like I'm sure you'd rather nobody be taxed but it the government only excempted illegal immigrants from taxation you'd have a problem with that (as would I). I seem to recall you don't favor EV tax breaks either? So government favored treatments bet excempted from lawsuits but if a Amish person sells elberberry elixer he can still get sued. The cure my ex told me to take for COVID costs $3.00 a bottle. There's no way she could get a clinical trial for that because there's no money to be made from it. She just tried it on her patients and it worked.

I'm pulling his leg brother.

Nothing I like better than to get my old friend's BP raised.



That said, I understand what he saying, but you always have to remember that @PAF hates the very idea of a nation, and hates his fellow citizens.

I'm trying to save a nation and not turn into Venezuela Norte.

Naturally, our views are going to diverge.

We tolerate each other because we both like motorcycles and hot wings.

[PAF]

I'm pulling his leg brother.

Nothing I like better than to get my old friend's BP raised.

You do one helluva job

That said, I understand what he saying, but you always have to remember that @PAF hates the very idea of a nation, and hates his fellow citizens.

Say wut? I don't hate people. I just hate some of their stupidity, recognizing that government schools, government policy, have something to do with it. But there comes a time when folks really should take time to think about things such as principles and cause and effect, and of course ways to be fiscally responsible while still having fun. Why do you think I hang around repuGs and libs all the time? And we still have fun even after the arguments

I'm trying to save a nation and not turn into Venezuela Norte.

I hate to say it bro, but your way is complicit to Growing the Fed. As I stated above, there are folks like me who are trying our best to bring things back local, and out in the field spreading those ideas to actually advance liberty. Not sure why you would ever support/vote for some quick-talking corrupt businessman turned politician whose goal is to reverse everything that Ron Paul and we have worked toward.

Naturally, our views are going to diverge.

They don't have to, if you would only just pause, and remember what this is all about. It's certainly not about federalizing/nationalizing everything, and then granting complete immunity to Pharm and LOCAL LEO, and using our tax-dollars to boot

We tolerate each other because we both like motorcycles and hot wings.

Right on! But I like the Triple Atomic Ghost ones Also because I believe there is still hope for you lol ;-)

[LibertyEagle]

I don’t think many here, maybe one, think Trump is the second coming. Even if he was sainted, which he most assuredly is not, could fix what has taken decades to get as bad as it is now, in a couple of terms. To accomplish much, Congress would have to back him and no one assassinate him. Even Ron Paul couldn’t fix it at this point. I have said many times, I think our federal government is too far gone.

But given where our country is right now and how very close we are to being pushed into a world government, I am choosing to support the presidential candidate who I believe will do the least damage. And at the same time, hope that Texas secedes from the union.

One of the problems we have in fixing anything is that very few of us are joiners. We are independent thinkers. If we weren’t, we probably wouldn’t have ever started here. Because we aren’t, we are lousy at working together to accomplish anything that requires more strategy than throwing a snowball at someone. There are all kinds of things that could be done, but here we all sit, preaching to the choir.

[PAF]

I don’t think many here, maybe one, think Trump is the second coming. Even if he was sainted, which he most assuredly is not, could fix what has taken decades to get as bad as it is now, in a couple of terms. To accomplish much, Congress would have to back him and no one assassinate him. Even Ron Paul couldn’t fix it at this point. I have said many times, I think our federal government is too far gone.

But given where our country is right now and how very close we are to being pushed into a world government, I am choosing to support the presidential candidate who I believe will do the least damage. And at the same time, hope that Texas secedes from the union.

One of the problems we have in fixing anything is that very few of us are joiners. We are independent thinkers. If we weren’t, we probably wouldn’t have ever started here. Because we aren’t, we are lousy at working together to accomplish anything that requires more strategy than throwing a snowball at someone. There are all kinds of things that could be done, but here we all sit, preaching to the choir.

Kinda hard to do when he wants to nationalize everything on the tax-payers backs, which is anti to everything Ron Paul and people like me have worked so hard to reverse. We are working to localize schools, leo, reign in spending and increase liberty, NOT push them up to the federal level. Your guy personally interviewed, hired and implemented brand new agencies such as OWS and Space Force, and now wants to expand that his next term, including fining and taxing Private donations to fund his Nationalized American University. He's not hiding behind it either, he's actually bragging about it.


And then you mention "secession"? lol


Donald Trump: I could "shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"


Good grief

[Swordsmyth]

The polling is rigged by oversampling Democrat voters. It is all about creating the perception that the election is close so the steal seems plausible. That is why Biden had to go.

And it will fail anyway.

[Swordsmyth]

It is known that I am anti-state, and government will not save us. That said, this illustrates the dangers of political "factions".

Folks like @Anti Federalist and others would see Harris' very favorable Foreign Policy and Anti-Domestic Surveillance record and quickly dismiss her, in favor of electing a president known for further communizing nationalizing and implementing anti-BoR "solutions", simply because of a letter after a name.

And the fact that Harris rejected Netanyahu's invitation to meet because she rejects his policies and believes that it should be up to the people in that region if they opt for a 2-state solution.


Those truly principled would highlight the good and expect their own faction to do the same, while at the same time criticize the negatives and hold their own faction accountable. Because if you can't hold your own faction accountable and at a higher standard than the other faction, how are you or your faction any better?

But: left, right, march in lock-step.


When people can't see beyond the letter of the alphabet and make every excuse. Right, @LibertyEagle ?

Last term:

Bump Stock Ban
Support Red Flag Confiscation Laws
Signed Fix NICS
Support TAPS Act
Support Toomey-Manchin Background Checks
Brand new militarized federal agency Operation Warp Speed
Brand new militarized federal agency Space Force
$8.2+ Trillion

Upcoming term:

Nationalized Stop and Frisk
Nationalized Local LEO Immunity
Nationalized University by taxing/fining/taking Private donations
Etc.

Utter distortion of the records and positions of both.

But thanks for openly shilling for Camela and exposing your real agenda.

[Swordsmyth]

[acptulsa]

Utter distortion of the records and positions of both.

You not only can't back that up with specifics, you won't even specify which two of the four people he mentioned you're talking about. And you want to be taken seriously?

But thanks for openly shilling for Camela and exposing your real agenda.

Because anything but brainlessly lauding and glorifying Trump is...

And you accuse others of misrepresenting and shilling. Gee, you then say, why am I being laughed at?