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    Protests over 12 children stabbed, 3 dead in Southport, England

    Police get more time with suspect as five held over unrest
    By Ewan Gawne & Gemma Sherlock

    Police have been granted more time to question a boy over the deaths of three children in the Southport knife attack.
    The 17-year-old has been in custody since he was arrested in the Merseyside town on Monday.

    Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar died and eight other children were injured in the stabbings at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class.
    ...
    The 17-year-old boy, who was arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder after Monday's attack, has no known links to Islam.

    The suspect, who has not been named because of his age, was born in Cardiff and later moved to Banks in Lancashire, a village that lies a few miles north of Southport.
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    More: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51yne2g317o
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    British PM is on holiday vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This is England.

    These are colored invaders of who knows what polyglot $#@!hole they came from.

    They are organizing and beating the $#@! out of any white person they come across.

    This is what our future is in another 5 years or so.

    Which way white man?

    Going to continue following the Small Hat Club and their mind virus?

    Or are you going to stand up for your own kind, for the first time in your life?

    Your choice will determine if your children and grandchildren survive.

    https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1820207241095442708

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    And for the purists:

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    Remember that scene in V Vendetta, when the cop shoots the little girl.

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    https://x.com/i/status/1820423848728093159

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/stillgray/status/1820503372895846591

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/i/status/1820497767242059811

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    https://x.com/stillgray/status/1820468022521582012

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/i/status/1820495827313525173

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/rfcjx/status/1820183154952474947

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1820600010704109754

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-05-2024 at 05:18 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1820600010704109754

    FTR I've never seen AJ advocate for actual violence but maybe I missed something I dunno. Conor McGreggor seems to have the clearest head in all of this surprisingly.
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    Note: Corporate media reporting is sparse on this attack, and they refuse to name the murderer. Information about the attack is likely suppressed on major search engines.
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    A third girl has died in the UK after one of the worst attacks on children in decades. Here’s what to know

    The United Kingdom was left shaken after three children were stabbed to death and eight others were injured in a knife attack in Southport, in one of the worst assaults against children in the country in decades.

    The attack took place at a Taylor Swift themed event at a dance school in the seaside town in northwest England, sparking disbelief over why would anyone target children having fun during the summer holiday.

    Prime Minister Keir Starmer said the “whole country” was deeply shocked by the “truly awful” attack, while King Charles III said he was “profoundly shocked” by the “utterly horrific incident.”

    Here is what we know about the attack.

    What happened?

    Police said Monday two girls, aged 6 and 7, were killed and six of the nine that were injured were in critical condition. Officers said the following day that another child, a 9-year-old girl, had died as a result of her injuries.

    Two adults were also critically injured, police said, adding that they suffered their injures because they “were bravely trying to protect the children who were being attacked.”

    Merseyside Police said the attack took place at a Taylor Swift event at a dance school in Southport on Monday morning, and the force said it received a call for help just before midday. Emergency services, including 13 ambulances and other specialized resources, were sent to the scene and a “major incident” was declared.

    Eyewitness describes aftermath of stabbing

    An eyewitness to the knife attack told CNN affiliate TVN24 on Wednesday he had been driving in the area with a colleague when he saw children running across the road and “a bloodied woman leaning against a car on the sidewalk.”

    “Everyone was crying, screaming,” the eyewitness Mr. Marcin told TVN24.

    “There was a white car, all covered in blood, smeared from the hands,” Marcin said, adding: “Five or six children inside, a woman, and they were all screaming.”

    Marcin also said he saw a woman lying on the street with “a lot of blood” coming from her head.

    His colleague Joe helped carry the girls who had been attacked from the house, Marcin said. The first girl his colleague Joe brought out was unconscious. Her head was “severely cut” and she “had a hole in her back,” Marcin said.

    As Joe continued to bring children out from the house people “from the neighbourhood started gathering, bringing towels, some items,” according to Marcin.

    “We didn’t even have time to talk,” Marcin said. “We were in such a shock, such a frenzy.”

    Marcin said Joe told him later that the attacker was stood on the landing. “A child lay beside him (and he was) stood with a large knife, and that was it,” Marcin detailed.

    “When the first three ambulances arrived, they took care of the last children brought out. I didn’t know the condition of each one because everyone was seriously injured, blood was dripping from each child.”

    “Everyone was crying, screaming, some were picking up their children, and some were not because they were lying on the ground.”

    Then a fourth ambulance arrived. Marcin said: “I jumped out and said I had someone very, very critical.”

    Marcin added that after the girl was taken to hospital he stayed in contact with her mother. The next morning he found out the girl had tragically died.

    “Police, firefighters, and ambulances were very quick, but it felt like an eternity to us. It definitely felt long, especially when someone loses breath in your hands,” Marcin said.
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    More: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/uk/so...ner/index.html
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    Southport murder accused named as Axel Rudakubana
    Judge allows naming of 17-year-old boy charged with three counts of murder and 10 of attempted murder

    A 17-year-old boy accused of murdering three girls at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in Southport can be named as Axel Rudakubana.

    Rudakubana is accused of murdering Alice Dasilva Aguiar, nine, Bebe King, six, and Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, with a kitchen knife on Monday after entering the class on Hart Street in Southport, Merseyside. Eight other children sustained knife wounds – with five of them left in a critical condition – while two adults were also critically hurt.

    Lifting the anonymity order at Liverpool crown court, Judge Menary KC said the “idiotic rioting” in parts of the UK after the attack was one reason why it was in the public interest for his name to be released.

    Remanding Rudakubana in youth detention, the judge said keeping the defendant’s anonymity in place ran the risk of “allowing others who are up to mischief to continue to spread misinformation in a vacuum”.

    The defendant is due to turn 18 on Wednesday, which the judge said could provide an “additional excuse for a fresh round of public disorder”.

    Describing the allegations against Rudakubana as “shocking” and that they “could hardly be more serious”, he said there was a “genuine and proper public interest in the identity of the defendant” and that allowing the press to name him would be “assisting to dispel misinformation that exists, especially online”.

    The decision came after incorrect identities and false claims, including that a Muslim immigrant had been arrested for murder, were shared online after the attack, and after clashes between the police and far-right rioters. In Southport on Tuesday night, police intervened when activists targeted a mosque, with five arrests made as a result of the disorder, during which missiles were thrown and police sustained minor injuries.

    Any anonymity that was previously in place would have automatically expired when the defendant turned 18 next week, allowing him to be named in news reports.
    ...
    More: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...xel-rudakubana
    You see, the most concerning problem here is online "misinformation". That is the exclusive realm of politicians, government officials, government bureaucrats and government employees, and the official corporate media.

    Online misinformation is punishable by jail, torture, loss of income and confiscation of any wealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1820600010704109754

    Unfortunately, Jones is correct for the most part. This is like Jan 6th in the US. It's a trap. The government will identify and track every person that participates, either in person or on the internet. They will then prosecute to the full extent of whatever law they want to create.

    People are lulled into this false sense of security because they allow the leftists and anyone else that serves their malign purposes to riot, destroy, rob and assault. Those rioters are carrying out the will of the state, and are no more likely to face consequences than a government employee.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Misinformation is clearly a problem. With better information, the correct race riot could have occured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    FTR I've never seen AJ advocate for actual violence but maybe I missed something I dunno. Conor McGreggor seems to have the clearest head in all of this surprisingly.
    "The answer to 1984 is 1776!"

    What is that phrase, if not a call to violent revolution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Unfortunately, Jones is correct for the most part. This is like Jan 6th in the US. It's a trap. The government will identify and track every person that participates, either in person or on the internet. They will then prosecute to the full extent of whatever law they want to create.

    People are lulled into this false sense of security because they allow the leftists and anyone else that serves their malign purposes to riot, destroy, rob and assault. Those rioters are carrying out the will of the state, and are no more likely to face consequences than a government employee.
    Brother, we're all going to jail or the mass grave anyway, if this $#@! is not turned around.

    They can not jail everybody, and every time High Chancellor Starmer cracks down even harder, more people will slip through his grasp.

    Or so I'd like to think.

    But I know that's just infantile fantasy.

    This is no rebellion, no massive upheaval.

    It's just death throes.

    It'll be another 400 hundred years or more before a Reconquista ejects the Muslim and African invaders, again.
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    https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1820512554063425846

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    The picture I saw of the guy on what looked like on the hood of a car, sure didn't look like a 17yo.

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    For this to be effective, I'd imagine that they'd have to voice their concerns to politicians and bureaucrats, you know, the ones facilitating the invasion.



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    https://x.com/9mm_smg/status/1820593797249536368



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    "The answer to 1984 is 1776!"

    What is that phrase, if not a call to violent revolution?
    Sure. If they come for the guns don't let them take the guns and fight back.



    And yeah, Conan O'Brien was being a jackass. But it's interesting that he included the part where Piers pointed out that Alex did a petition drive to have him deported along with the (in)famous rant of "Hitler took the guns, Mao took the guns, Stalin took the guns, Fidel Castro took the guns, Hugo Chavez took the guns and I'm here to tell you, if you try to take our our firearms 1776 will commence again." That's his red line in the sand. Dealing with undesireable aliens? Petition the government to have them deported. But this shouldn't happen in America....again....

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Sure. If they come for the guns don't let them take the guns and fight back.

    And yeah, Conan O'Brien was being a jackass. But it's interesting that he included the part where Piers pointed out that Alex did a petition drive to have him deported along with the (in)famous rant of "Hitler took the guns, Mao took the guns, Stalin took the guns, Fidel Castro took the guns, Hugo Chavez took the guns and I'm here to tell you, if you try to take our our firearms 1776 will commence again." That's his red line in the sand. Dealing with undesireable aliens? Petition the government to have them deported. But this shouldn't happen in America....again....
    Don't misunderstand me, I agree with Jones on this, at least what his usual line is.

    There should be pushback.

    And it also helps because it points out the double standard in so called law and justice. Blacks riots over a legitimate grievance and the whole western world falls over itself to comply with their demands, politicians and presidents kneel in supplication. Whites riot over a legitimate grievance, and we're thugs and malcontents of the very worst sort, to be cracked down upon with the most extreme levels of government force to be brought to bear.

    The answer to that, in a nation where the citizens are disarmed by government, is to riot ten times harder.

    Not meekly going back to your corner, hiding in your home and writing strongly worded tweets of disapproval.

    Not to mention the fact, in the UK, just doing that will get you arrested as well.

    I find Jones is being hypocritical in the extreme on this.

    Now is the time to fight, not retreat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    The picture I saw of the guy on what looked like on the hood of a car, sure didn't look like a 17yo.
    The media prefers to show the 6th grade school picture for many criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Misinformation is clearly a problem. With better information, the correct race riot could have occured.
    A racist would say...
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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