Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me

[Invisible Man]

I'm jumping into this in the middle, so I'm not sure where everybody is at, but I am almost positive he never said "drink bleach" or "inject bleach".

Not that way word-for-word.

What he said was, "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that."

He was clearly talking about chemical disinfectant here, and not light. He explicitly offered this musing as another possibility aside from the use of light.

He didn't advise anybody to inject bleach. But he did publicly muse about this in a really dumb way that demonstrated his stupidity and lack of self-awareness about his own limitations of understanding.

When asked about this later he said he was being sarcastic. That's one of Trump's go-to tricks. He intermixes so much into his speeches that isn't serious that he always has an out to be able to say that anything he ever said wasn't serious when and if he decides not to stick with it (and there's some truth to this--because he never really means what he says on the level of believing in any absolute right and wrong anyway). For his lemmings it doesn't matter. They don't actually care about him being for or against anything in particular.

[Swordsmyth]

Not that way word-for-word.

What he said was, "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that."

He was clearly talking about chemical disinfectant here, and not light. He explicitly offered this musing as another possibility aside from the use of light.

He didn't advise anybody to inject bleach. But he did publicly muse about this in a really dumb way that demonstrated his stupidity and lack of self-awareness about his own limitations of understanding.

When asked about this later he said he was being sarcastic. That's one of Trump's go-to tricks. He intermixes so much into his speeches that isn't serious that he always has an out to be able to say that anything he ever said wasn't serious when and if he decides not to stick with it (and there's some truth to this--because he never really means what he says on the level of believing in any absolute right and wrong anyway). For his lemmings it doesn't matter. They don't actually care about him being for or against anything in particular.

Or he knew about the research into injecting Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body creates naturally to help kill germs.

[Invisible Man]

Or he knew about the research into injecting Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body creates naturally to help kill germs.

Then why did he say he was being sarcastic?

[PAF]

Or he knew about the research into injecting Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body creates naturally to help kill germs.

Maybe he learned that from Pfizer, Inc., when they donated $1 million to Trump’s Presidential Inauguration Committee on December 22, 2016 and received four tickets to the Leadership Luncheon with Cabinet appointees and House and Senate Leadership.

Or maybe it was Bill Gates during one of their many meetings.

Or maybe Moncef Slaoui clued him in when Trump interviewed him several times and then finally hired him to run Operation Warp Speed.

I mean, he had to have learned about "Hydrogen Peroxide" from somewhere since he awarded Moderna $1 Billion and $1.6 Billion to Novavax, and made the announcement "We have given Pfizer and other companies a great deal of money!".

Certainly it had to have been before Bill Gates led the effort to get $3.36 Billion into the Coronavirus Deal, wouldn't you think?


Because, you know. Trump was trying to help.

[acptulsa]

Facts. That's the end of it, except we have a corrupt Trump hating media complex that unfortunately knows how to lie and manipulate people to believe anything.

It's an example and a funny one.

Trumpism is a religious belief system. More specifically, it is the type of religion in which its followers are believed incapable of understanding the truth of the religion and must instead have the truth interpreted for them.

The plain reading of Trump, uninformed by esoteric knowledge, cannot be trusted as it is too complex for the common man. For the average blue check red hat, trying to understand Trump themselves would be like staring at the sun. Protective filters must be first applied to make the knowledge safe for the believer.

[Anti Federalist]

Not that way word-for-word.

What he said was, "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that."

He was clearly talking about chemical disinfectant here, and not light. He explicitly offered this musing as another possibility aside from the use of light.

He didn't advise anybody to inject bleach. But he did publicly muse about this in a really dumb way that demonstrated his stupidity and lack of self-awareness about his own limitations of understanding.

When asked about this later he said he was being sarcastic. That's one of Trump's go-to tricks. He intermixes so much into his speeches that isn't serious that he always has an out to be able to say that anything he ever said wasn't serious when and if he decides not to stick with it (and there's some truth to this--because he never really means what he says on the level of believing in any absolute right and wrong anyway). For his lemmings it doesn't matter. They don't actually care about him being for or against anything in particular.

Sounds to me like a brainstorming session.

Maybe not the best idea to carry it out on a live broadcast, but hey, we were in the middle of an ongoing bio weapon attack, so I'll give a pass on that.

Bottom line, he never told people, directly, "Hey, this cures COVID! Drink bleach or better yet, inject it into yourself!"

[PAF]

Sounds to me like a brainstorming session.

Maybe not the best idea to carry it out on a live broadcast, but hey, we were in the middle of an ongoing bio weapon attack, so I'll give a pass on that.

The "brainstorming session" was from 2016 when Pfizer gave Trump $1,000,000 for his inauguration event and they obtained 4 tickets to his Leadership Luncheon, all the way to 2020 when OWS was announced.

That's an awful lot "brainstorming", before rapping us with that atrocious bill and what followed. But it's good that you're giving him that pass lol

It's way, way much better when a "Republican" does it, because there is absolutely no way on this forsaken planet that you would ever let a D pass on that

Thank GOD for "parties"! Let's do it again!


TPTB, Pfizer, Gates, et al: "We better do it when a "Let's-Pretend-I-Am-A-Republican" is in office, because if we do when a Democrat is in office @Anti Federalist and other "R's" will be like F&CK NO!"

[jmdrake]

Or he knew about the research into injecting Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body creates naturally to help kill germs.

Then why did he say he was being sarcastic?

Yeah, like Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body produces naturally as a way to kill germs.

And other things, like Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body produces and uses to kill germs.
He didn't tell anyone to do it themselves.

LOL. So...was he talking about light and calling it "disinfectant" even though the researcher who was actually giving the presentation made a difference or was he talking about hydrogen peroxide (which wasn't mentioned by the reasearcher giving the presentation) or was he being sarcastic? You know the only person in the world who can authoritively speak on what was going on in Trump's mind? Trump! And Trump said he was being sarcastic. All of the mental gymnastics in the world doesn't change that.

Here's a simple idea. Trump was trying to opine about things he didn't really know about. And the sad thing is This researcher was undermining Fauci before Trump stuck his foot in his mouth!! Fauci had argued for keeping the lock downs going on during the summer based on the lie that "We don't know if heat kills the virus." It's a lie. He knew what killed the virus because he funded its creation. But by pretending that "heat might not kill the virus", Dr. Fauci was advocating for keeping beaches and parks closed into the spring and summer months when they should have been opened in order to fight COVID! That's why governors Desantis and Kemp were right and Trump was wrong about opening up in April. Those are southern states with an average April temperatures in the 70s for Georgia and the 80s for South Florida.



But Dr. Fauci was saying garbage like this:

In a March 26 conversation on Instagram with basketball star Steph Curry, Fauci said yearly viruses like the seasonal flu and other coronaviruses that are typically more benign tend to do poorly in warm, moist weather and well in cold, dry weather.

"That’s one of the reasons why, in addition to the fact that in the warm weather you’re more outside and not confined in a room, that these kinds of respiratory viruses tend to go down as you get into the summer months," Fauci told Curry. "The only issue is we don’t know whether this is going to happen with this virus, because this is the first time we’ve ever dealt with this virus. So it’s not an unreasonable assumption to think that it’s going to go down, but you don’t want to count on it."

Rand Paul addresses Dr. Fauci's fear mongering early on here:



Bottom line is, what should have been a slam dunk against Fauci's push to keep the country locked down into the summer turned into a shyt show because Trump said some goofy things that even his supporters aren't 100% sure what he meant. It's not the worst thing he did by far and the media most certainly exaggerated it. In the post Trump / Biden debate, CNN's fact check on Biden pointed out that it was not accurate to claim Trump told Americans to inject disinfectant.

[Invisible Man]

Sounds to me like a brainstorming session.

It wasn't a brainstorming session though. Trump should know the difference. But he seems not to. All his speeches are basically brainstorming sessions, no matter how scripted they are. Again, this is a strategy he uses in order to always have an out whenever he decides that he doesn't want to be held to something he said. His unserious musings and his serious statements (if there are any of these at all) blend together so seamlessly that there is no way ever to distinguish them. Every promise he makes is like Kramer betting Seinfeld that he was going to build levels in his apartment. He and his followers can always be right, because whenever he's wrong it didn't count.

[BLilly]

Bunk.

Truth

[BLilly]

Uh, no, you're the one acting woke.. Trump made a joke and you are taking it seriously. The left does this literally all the time..

I never refered to or mentioned his "joke".

[Anti Federalist]

TPTB, Pfizer, Gates, et al: "We better do it when a "Let's-Pretend-I-Am-A-Republican" is in office, because if we do when a Democrat is in office @Anti Federalist and other "R's" will be like F&CK NO!"

The man who is most aggressively pursuing medical establishment treachery and has some power to do something about it, is an "R".

A couple of "R" wins in a few key races would give him a great deal more power to call these bastards to account.

But that's not going to happen.

Cause, ya know, voting is worthless, and Alex Jones says we should not resist and riot.

So it's another four years of impotently writing rage posts.

Until they throw us in the GULAG for doing even that, like they are right now in the UK.

[jmdrake]

I'm jumping into this in the middle, so I'm not sure where everybody is at, but I am almost positive he never said "drink bleach" or "inject bleach".

That is 100% correct.. and that was the media spin. Yet instead of saying, "Ya, ya know, the media really did lie about that, just like they lie about pretty much everything with Trump", you get people saying stuff like, "well, I mean, he DID say "inject disinfectant", and yes, light is a disinfectant, but he said the word "and" before that, so he was definitely talking about liquid disinfectant, it couldn't possibly be that he was talking about injecting light with the Healight device that was all over conservative social media the week before.. "





..instead of just excoriating the media for lying about what he said, of which there is no doubt..

Just to be clear I haven't seen ANYBODY in this thread state that Trump specifically advised people to inject disinfectant. By the same token Trump never advised people to stick a UV light down their esophogus. So that's a red herring. Trump talked about "taking light inside the body" as a possible remedy to be looked at as well as injecting disinfectant. The disinfectant he talked about injecting was most likely not "light." It's a gross distortion of what Trump said and what the researcher Trump was responding to said and frankly what Trump himself said. Scott Adams basically made that explanation up out of whole cloth. I can kinda / sorta see @Swordsmyth's argument that Trump could have been talking about disinfectants like hydrogen peroxide that aren't toxic in certain quantities but that just wasn't mentioned in that press conference. I can buy @Anti Federalist's "it was a (public) brainstorming session" explanation. All of that makes perfect sense. And none of this is nearly as bad as Trump telling Bob freaking Woodward that he "played down" COVID-19 because he didn't want to "create a panic." The rule for any president who wants to get re-elected (especially a Republican president) should be "No interviews with Bob Woodward until you no longer want to be in public office."

[jmdrake]

The man who is most aggressively pursuing medical establishment treachery and has some power to do something about it, is an "R".

A couple of "R" wins in a few key races would give him a great deal more power to call these bastards to account.

But that's not going to happen.

Cause, ya know, voting is worthless, and Alex Jones says we should not resist and riot.

So it's another four years of impotently writing rage posts.

Until they throw us in the GULAG for doing even that, like they are right now in the UK.

Tucker Carlson had the opportunity to hold Trump's feet to the fire on COVID and gun control and letting Bob Barr cover up the killing of Jeffrey Epstein when Trump skipped the first GOP debate and Tucker interviewed him. But Tucker did a softball interview. And you told me ahead of time he wasn't going to be tough on Trump so color me naive. Now we are where we are. As for AJ I already gave you my thoughts on that but I will add that I don't think Americans rioting over what's happening in Ireland would do any good. (And I'm sure that's not what you meant but I'm trying to figure out the connection of AJ warning the Irish not to fall into a trap has to do with anything.) I'm glad (mostly white) conservatives stood up against Whitmere in Michigan even if the feds managed to drum up a fake kidnapping ring. I think the January 6th protests were stupid and counter productive and got a lot of good people locked up or with felony records and one person shot and killed. Sounds like a big old trap to me but hell, what do I know?

[Swordsmyth]

Then why did he say he was being sarcastic?

Source needed.

IF true it was because the media convinced everyone he was telling them to inject chlorine bleach into their arms and it was easier to say that than explain about Hydrogen Peroxide.
The media would have told everyone he wanted them to self inject that and neglect to mention the body produces it.

[acptulsa]

Source needed.

IF true it was because...

LOL

Source needed. Source totally needed, dude. Talk about public brainstorming sessions. "I don't know if that's true but if it is it's totally because..." Yeah, buddy, that sounds like the voice of authoritative knowledge with evidence backing it up...

You don't know if that's true or not, but if it is true, you absolutely positively know why it's true. Uh huh. In other words, you have no clue whatsoever what's going on but you can totally make excuses for Trump's end of it all day. Yawn.

[acptulsa]

Scott Adams wrote a 25 page paper full of citations...

You're talking about a cartoonist. A cartoonist.

Spoken like someone with a woke agenda. I'm right, this will not be discussed!

You're right. He operates exactly how libs operate. Most of them do. "Don't confuse me with facts, I've already made up my mind!"

[Invisible Man]

Source needed.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c48715...r-clip-sarcasm