Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me

[dannno]

I wasn't going from CNN. And no, Trump never said what you are falsely claiming he said. You simply are making things up. Here is the link.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...s-briefing-31/

Quote where Trump said "By disinfectant I mean light." He never said that and you know it! And his defense is that he was being "saracastic." Why can't you taken Trump at his word?

I wasn't going from CNN. And no, Trump never said what you are falsely claiming he said. You simply are making things up. Here is the link.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...s-briefing-31/

Quote where Trump said "By disinfectant I mean light." He never said that and you know it! And his defense is that he was being "saracastic." Why can't you taken Trump at his word?

Here's the entire light inside the body / disinfectant exchange. I'll label the paragraphs 1), 2), 3) etc for clarity.

1) THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

2) ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

3) THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute.

Scott Adams wrote a 25 page paper full of citations on why he was talking about light as a disinfectant. The press conference was about how they were testing different disinfectants, including light, which some say is the best disinfectant. In fact, that is what the study showed. It was the light that knocks it out in less than a minute. ("Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute.")That's how you know that is what he was referring to. Trump was all about the light, he was talking about the light if you go even further back in the transcript. He showed no interest in anything else.

The reason Scott Adams was so insistent on it, from the beginning, he did not reveal for many years. However, in the last year or so, he finally revealed the reason. The reason was because Scott Adams had personal knowledge that Trump was listening to his podcast with one of his staffers every morning during that timeframe, because the staffer was informing him of such. I know that to be true, because a couple months earlier, Scott Adams was screaming into the camera that he would stop supporting Trump if he didn't shut down airline travel from China. A day or two later, Trump shut down airline travel from China.

Now, I know that the Healight technology was being sent all over conservative twitter, everybody saw it. I saw it.. we all knew about it before he talked about it. Anybody paying attention knew exactly what he was talking about, despite his unclear language. I had assumed Trump had seen it on twitter.

However, in fact, Scott Adams talked about the healight on his show in the days before the press conference. Scott Adams KNEW at that time that Trump was listening to his podcast as he was being informed by his staffer who was watching it with him.

Scott did not want to reveal that information during Trump's Presidency, and did not reveal it for some time after - because it was confidential information that he was given that he did not feel that he should be sharing. However, after enough time passed and the hoax was still being spread by the public, eventually he felt it was ok to share and came out with it. I posted the 25 page paper on it in another thread somewhere.. I'll have to search for it, it's been a few months I think. However Trump did say that is what he was referring to later on, the media didn't report it, they only reported the thing about him saying he was being sarcastic or whatever, which Scott also addresses in his 25 page paper.

If you enjoy arguing the wrong side of an argument, you can continue to do so. I have a friend who is very intelligent, he gets bored easily and actually prefers arguing the wrong side of arguments. It's entertaining for him. That's one of the reasons we are friends, because I only like to argue the correct side of arguments. Of course, nobody is perfect, if I'm given enough information to show that I'm incorrect, I will change my mind and only argue the correct side from there out.

However on this one, I know for a fact I am right, Trump was using unclear language, but I know for a fact he was talking about injecting light inside the body. He was talking about the Healight and trying to be stealthy with Dr. Birks. Why? Because he had already gone through the Hydroxychloroquine debacle. Trump had thought if he presented something that could help COVID patients and it worked, then he would be praised for helping resolve the pandemic.. he found out that the media didn't care about saving people's lives, they only cared about making him look bad. So at that point, he thought maybe he could "coax" some helpful information out of the doctors, who the media seemed to respect. That backfired as well, so he just gave up and promoted the stupid $#@!ing vaccine.. because there was literally nothing else he could do.

If you don't understand the dynamic I just explained with Trump in regards to COVID, then you don't understand what was going on during COVID, at all.. if you do, then it literally explains everything, everything makes sense.

[jmdrake]

Scott Adams wrote a 25 page paper full of citations on why he was talking about light as a disinfectant. The press conference was about how they were testing different disinfectants, including light, which some say is the best disinfectant. In fact, that is what the study showed. It was the light that knocks it out in less than a minute. ("Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute.")That's how you know that is what he was referring to. Trump was all about the light, he was talking about the light if you go even further back in the transcript. He showed no interest in anything else.

Totally irrelevant BS. Again, from the National archives and NOT CNN.

And thirdly, the virus dies the quickest in the presence of direct sunlight under these conditions. And when you — when you look at that chart, look at the aerosol as you breathe it; you put it in a room, 70 to 75 degrees, 20 percent humidity, low humidity, it lasts — the half-life is about an hour. But you get outside, and it cuts down to a minute and a half. A very significant difference when it gets hit with UV rays.

And, Mr. President, while there are many unknown links in the COVID-19 transmission chain, we believe these trends can support practical decision making to lower the risks associated with the virus.

If I can have my next slide.

And when that — while that comes up, you’ll see a number of some practical applications. For example, increasing the temperature and humidity of potentially contaminated indoor spaces appears to reduce the stability of the virus. And extra care may be warranted for dry environments that do not have exposure to solar light.

We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

The researcher made a distinction between sunlight and "disinfectants" and Trump did as well. And when given the opportunity to clarify his remarks Trump never went with your and/or Scott Adams arguments. Y'all just made that up. It doesn't matter if Scott Adams had 25,000 citations. That simply wasn't what Trump was talking about.

[oyarde]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rsement-2024-8

LOL , doesnt matter trump , musk , biden , nobody can peddle junk nobody wants. Going to be a yuge flop.

[BLilly]

Yes, we've debated this endlessly. Trump recommended the governors shut things down for a few weeks. Democrats shut things down for years. Trump immediately tried to open the country back up and got a lot of flack in the media for it. We find out he didn't have the power to shut things down or open them up, it was actually the governors. Ron Paul would have recommended we keep things open and the Democrat governors would have shut $#@! down anyway. So I'm not really sure what the difference would have been effectively in this situation. The media was controlling the narrative and the country at the time. It certainly wasn't Trump controlling the narrative, otherwise we would have just opened back up and put people on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and been over it right quick. If he had fired Fauci, they would have just brought him on the news and it wouldn't have changed a thing.

However, we know, he's not Ron Paul. Just infinitely better than the alternatives. Again, this is something you are allowed to argue and debate, just don't take jokes out of context it makes you sound like Bill Maher or Jimmy Kimmel or Whoopi Goldberg.

How in the world is quoting Trumps words a joke????? Trump pushing shutdowns, taking credit for helping get the shutdowns through, and saying it was the right thing isn't taking anything out of context. We've all heard his words.

Don't make things up like you did in the post I'm quoting by saying I'm taking a joke out of context when that is the furthest thing from the truth. It makes you sound like the main stream media.

He's not better than RFK Jr

[BLilly]

Scott Adams wrote a 25 page paper full of citations on why he was talking about light as a disinfectant. The press conference was about how they were testing different disinfectants, including light, which some say is the best disinfectant. In fact, that is what the study showed. It was the light that knocks it out in less than a minute. ("Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute.")That's how you know that is what he was referring to. Trump was all about the light, he was talking about the light if you go even further back in the transcript. He showed no interest in anything else.

The reason Scott Adams was so insistent on it, from the beginning, he did not reveal for many years. However, in the last year or so, he finally revealed the reason. The reason was because Scott Adams had personal knowledge that Trump was listening to his podcast with one of his staffers every morning during that timeframe, because the staffer was informing him of such. I know that to be true, because a couple months earlier, Scott Adams was screaming into the camera that he would stop supporting Trump if he didn't shut down airline travel from China. A day or two later, Trump shut down airline travel from China.

Now, I know that the Healight technology was being sent all over conservative twitter, everybody saw it. I saw it.. we all knew about it before he talked about it. Anybody paying attention knew exactly what he was talking about, despite his unclear language. I had assumed Trump had seen it on twitter.

However, in fact, Scott Adams talked about the healight on his show in the days before the press conference. Scott Adams KNEW at that time that Trump was listening to his podcast as he was being informed by his staffer who was watching it with him.

Scott did not want to reveal that information during Trump's Presidency, and did not reveal it for some time after - because it was confidential information that he was given that he did not feel that he should be sharing. However, after enough time passed and the hoax was still being spread by the public, eventually he felt it was ok to share and came out with it. I posted the 25 page paper on it in another thread somewhere.. I'll have to search for it, it's been a few months I think. However Trump did say that is what he was referring to later on, the media didn't report it, they only reported the thing about him saying he was being sarcastic or whatever, which Scott also addresses in his 25 page paper.

If you enjoy arguing the wrong side of an argument, you can continue to do so. I have a friend who is very intelligent, he gets bored easily and actually prefers arguing the wrong side of arguments. It's entertaining for him. That's one of the reasons we are friends, because I only like to argue the correct side of arguments. Of course, nobody is perfect, if I'm given enough information to show that I'm incorrect, I will change my mind and only argue the correct side from there out.

However on this one, I know for a fact I am right, Trump was using unclear language, but I know for a fact he was talking about injecting light inside the body. He was talking about the Healight and trying to be stealthy with Dr. Birks. Why? Because he had already gone through the Hydroxychloroquine debacle. Trump had thought if he presented something that could help COVID patients and it worked, then he would be praised for helping resolve the pandemic.. he found out that the media didn't care about saving people's lives, they only cared about making him look bad. So at that point, he thought maybe he could "coax" some helpful information out of the doctors, who the media seemed to respect. That backfired as well, so he just gave up and promoted the stupid $#@!ing vaccine.. because there was literally nothing else he could do.

If you don't understand the dynamic I just explained with Trump in regards to COVID, then you don't understand what was going on during COVID, at all.. if you do, then it literally explains everything, everything makes sense.

yes Trump did push alternative measures during the pandy. he just didn't push those enough and pushed Fauci too much

[BLilly]

Dude, we debate all this stuff in the threads on spending. This is a thread about a joke Trump made, that you are lying about.

fair enough

Yes ,Trump was weak on this issue, even though he didn't create the spending bills.. congress did.. Trump got some things out of them that he wanted, he should have vetoed them.. However they would have just gone back to the House/Senate and they would have passed a bill that got 2/3 majority and would be veto-proof.

I wonder how many of those spending bills got less than 2/3 vote anyway.. and if they did, they still would have passed a similar variation with 2/3 vote.

Congress is the primary culprit when it comes to spending. If it were up to Trump, the COVID relief bills would have been 90% slimmer, there was a ton of crap packed into those bills and not a damn thing he could do about it.. except maybe send it back to congress where they would have come up with a bill that would pass with 2/3 majority. It would have just made him look bad to the average person and hurt his chances at re-election.

It would have made it look like he was fighting for the people.

[BLilly]

You can argue all you want about the first President in decades not to start any new wars, stop funding ISIS, start to wind the wars down, get friendly with North Korea, help create major peace treaties, etc, being a "war monger", but SS is not lying "here", that is absolutely ridiculous.

Trump literally gets up for 3 hours and does stand-up comedy at his rallies. If this didn't come off as a joke to you, then I don't know what to say. Either you've never heard him speak before, or you have zero sense of humor.

lol You made this up. And yes SS is lying 'here". Love the quotes
I got robbed twice last month, same as the month before so things are not getting worse mentality.
Yes Trump is a good negotiator, no doubt. Shame he isn't good on the Constitution.
He's not as bad as Biden

We can debate Trump on 2A, I will say you are wrong, we can argue on and on.

He's not good on it. "This is not even up for debate."

SS is not lying "here", it's the anti-Trumpers in the thread who are lying "here". This is not even up for debate.

No they are not. Spoken like someone with a woke agenda. I'm right, this will not be discussed!

[nobody's_hero]

I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.

Because the moment the media says something negative about Trump, the MSM suddenly has 100,000% credibility.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm jumping into this in the middle, so I'm not sure where everybody is at, but I am almost positive he never said "drink bleach" or "inject bleach".

[dannno]

No they are not. Spoken like someone with a woke agenda. I'm right, this will not be discussed!

Uh, no, you're the one acting woke.. Trump made a joke and you are taking it seriously. The left does this literally all the time..

[dannno]

I'm jumping into this in the middle, so I'm not sure where everybody is at, but I am almost positive he never said "drink bleach" or "inject bleach".

That is 100% correct.. and that was the media spin. Yet instead of saying, "Ya, ya know, the media really did lie about that, just like they lie about pretty much everything with Trump", you get people saying stuff like, "well, I mean, he DID say "inject disinfectant", and yes, light is a disinfectant, but he said the word "and" before that, so he was definitely talking about liquid disinfectant, it couldn't possibly be that he was talking about injecting light with the Healight device that was all over conservative social media the week before.. "





..instead of just excoriating the media for lying about what he said, of which there is no doubt..

[dannno]

fair enough

It would have made it look like he was fighting for the people.

To libertarians and economic conservatives who are educated on these topics, yes, I would have loved to see him do that.. it would have felt like he was fighting for me, just like the feeling I get when Ron Paul speaks.. but not to your "average Joe" who isn't really that into politics who was more than happy to get a $2000 check after their Governor shut down their business.. for those people, sending out $2,000 checks is "fighting for the people".. that is who Trump was courting for votes, and unfortunately that is a larger % of the population.

If you believe Democrats stole the 2020 election, then his strategy worked... sorta.. he got the votes, just not enough to overcome the cheating.

[Swordsmyth]

You're the one lying here. You have a history of it

LOL

[Swordsmyth]

Anti-can't keep his word. He writes too many checks with his mouth. A big spending, war mongering, anti 2nd amendment POS. Hang your hat on that if you wish.

Bunk.

[Swordsmyth]

Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.

You never did and you never will.
And you are supporting the lie about what he said knowingly.

[Swordsmyth]

Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.

It sounds like he says whatever will help destroy America, by getting Harris elected in this case.

[Swordsmyth]

Thank God I didn't listen to him when he said to inject bleach into my veins.

That's exactly the level of lie this is.

[Swordsmyth]

Spending $8.2 Trillion in one single term, more than every president in history combined, at what point do you use the tiniest bit of common sense and admit to reality?

The Donald Trump-inspired rise of “populist nationalist conservatism” - America Reaches a Sad Milestone ~ by Ron Paul Aug 5, 2024

Talk to Congress and their veto proof bills.

[Swordsmyth]

As @acptulsa has repeated over and over again, nothing is "veto-proof". Trump simply could have vetoed the bills and explained to his base how dangerous they were so that said constituents could have put more pressure on their Representatives - even if Congress over-rode his vetoes AFTER he vetoed them.

BUT HE DID NOT. He actually voiced SUPPORT of them.

And THAT actually happened.

It's a lie that nothing is veto proof.
And he had no choice in an election year where he was being blamed for every death and every bad effect on the economy.

[Swordsmyth]

He was talking about injecting light into the body, that wasn't a joke. They were actually testing that at the time, Trump knew they were testing it, and Dr. Berks did not know they were testing it.

He also didn't tell Americans to DO anything, he was just asking if they were testing injecting light into the body as a disinfectant, then the media came out and told everybody that he was telling people to inject bleach.

But you knew that, you just don't care. You prefer to lie about everything for some reason. If you can twist something Trump says into a late-night comedy joke, you get your chuckles, and it increases your dopamine. It's like a drug.

And other things, like Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body produces and uses to kill germs.
He didn't tell anyone to do it themselves.

[Swordsmyth]

He talked about light and disinfectant.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it`s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn`t been checked, but you`re going to check it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you`re going to test that too. Sounds interesting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ll get to the right folks who could.

TRUMP: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you`re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds interesting to me

And just to be clear about the meaning of the word "disinfectant."

And when that — while that comes up, you’ll see a number of some practical applications. For example, increasing the temperature and humidity of potentially contaminated indoor spaces appears to reduce the stability of the virus. And extra care may be warranted for dry environments that do not have exposure to solar light.

We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

So no. It's not at all a logical and honest explaination to say Trump was talking about light inside the body when he talked about disinfectant inside the body.

Even Trump didn't try the "I was really talking about light" argument. His explanation? He was being sarcastic.

"I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters just like you, just to see what would happen," Trump said on Friday during a bill signing for the coronavirus aid package. "I was asking a sarcastic and a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it and it would kill it on the hands, and it would make things much better."

We've gone over this more times than I care to count and I'm sure you're going to claim against Trump's own explanation that somehow he was talking about light both times when he was actually talking about light inside the body and injecting chemical disinectant. You are correct that he didn't advise anyone to actually do either.

Yeah, like Hydrogen Peroxide, which the body produces naturally as a way to kill germs.

[Swordsmyth]

My response to another poster in another thread:


Trump is not qualified to make medical recommendations. Only your own personal/private physician knows your and your family medical history. Get off of that Trump recommended this or that bandwagon, I don't buy that Trumpscuse and never will.

Trump is a businessman, sat on executive boards, reads and fully understands contracts, and knows how to interview employees. There is no excuse, or "mistake" as you like to put it.

Trump met with RFK Jr. concerning vaccine safety but quickly dismissed him after meeting with Bill Gates more than several times and implemented Bill Gates' agenda.

According to US Federal Election Commission documents (page 163), Pfizer, Inc. donated $1 million to Trump’s Presidential Inauguration Committee on December 22, 2016 and received four tickets to the Leadership Luncheon with Cabinet appointees and House and Senate Leadership.

Donald Trump appointed Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a well known physician with ties to the pharmaceutical industry as an FDA Commissioner in March, 2017. Two years later, on June 27, 2019, Gottlieb was elected to Pfizer’s Board of Directors to serve on its Regulatory and Compliance Committee.

Trump hired Moncef Slaoui, board member of Moderna and GlaxoSmithKline, to head Operation Warp Speed. OWS is a Public/Private Partnership, used BARDA as the financial interface between the U.S. federal government and the biomedical industry, which contributed to the largest transfer of wealth from the low/middle class to the upper 1%.

Bill Gates led the effort To get $3.36 Billion into the Coronavirus Deal.

Prior to Covid being announced, Trump signed into law the revised PREP Act which provides complete immunity to Pharmaceutical Corporations from being prosecuted in the event of harm and/or death.

Now, you ask yourself why he would grant complete immunity when it deals with people's lives.

And you want to vote for that???

And while some of us are trying to bring things back to local, you are all for his Nationalized University, Nationalized "Stop and Frisk" and Nationalized Local LEO Immunity. Because "communism". AmIRight?

You sound like Fauci.
Trump was promoting research into alternatives to the jabs, which would have prevented the EUAs for the jabs.
Anyone has a right to speak out on medical research, and Trump was doing a good thing.

[PAF]

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being discussed. Are RPF members planning on taking medical advice from Trump and/or other politician?

The immediate response should be: "Government has no f&cking business in healthcare, and I don't give a flip what Trump said one way or the other. That is up to you and your own personal/private physician who knows your and your family medical history."

[Swordsmyth]

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being discussed. Are RPF members planning on taking medical advice from Trump and/or other politician?

The immediate response should be: "Government has no f&cking business in healthcare, and I don't give a flip what Trump said one way or the other. That is up to you and your own personal/private physician who knows your and your family medical history."

Some of us like to gather our own information from any source and do our own research, and when the media and government are getting involved it really helps to have someone on the national stage help provide alternative information.

But you just go ahead and listen to just your science trusting, pill pushing, Fauci worshipping, Big Pharma hack.
You won't be missed.

[dannno]

Are RPF members planning on taking medical advice from Trump and/or other politician?

Yes. I would take medical advice from Rand Paul, Ron Paul and in fact I have taken hydroxychloroquine when I was exposed to covid by my roommate, never got sick. That advice came from Trump, among others.

I wouldn't take advice from Fauci.

[acptulsa]

Talk to Congress and their veto proof bills.

Aye, laddie, and shall we be talking to the leprechauns, and asking them why they're making Trump destroy the economy to make poison for our very veins, then, since all the many bad things Trump be doing are not none of them the man's own fault begorrah?

[acptulsa]

Some of us like to gather our own information from any source and do our own research, and when the media and government are getting involved it really helps to have someone on the national stage help provide alternative information.

But you just go ahead and listen to just your science trusting, pill pushing, Fauci worshipping, Big Pharma hack.
You won't be missed.

He's going psycho again already.

[acptulsa]

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being discussed.

[spudea]

I'm jumping into this in the middle, so I'm not sure where everybody is at, but I am almost positive he never said "drink bleach" or "inject bleach".

Facts. That's the end of it, except we have a corrupt Trump hating media complex that unfortunately knows how to lie and manipulate people to believe anything.

[TheCount]

I'm still trying to figure out why this is even being discussed. Are RPF members planning on taking medical advice from Trump and/or other politician?

The immediate response should be: "Government has no f&cking business in healthcare, and I don't give a flip what Trump said one way or the other. That is up to you and your own personal/private physician who knows your and your family medical history."

It's an example and a funny one.

Trumpism is a religious belief system. More specifically, it is the type of religion in which its followers are believed incapable of understanding the truth of the religion and must instead have the truth interpreted for them.

The plain reading of Trump, uninformed by esoteric knowledge, cannot be trusted as it is too complex for the common man. For the average blue check red hat, trying to understand Trump themselves would be like staring at the sun. Protective filters must be first applied to make the knowledge safe for the believer.