Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me

[dannno]

Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.

Dude, just stahp....

This thread is dead on arrival.

If you want to criticize Trump, stick to he's not as good as I would like on 2A, wars, speding, etc..

Don't be like the left and take Trump's jokes out of context..

I.e. when Trump was asked if he would be a dictator, he said "Only on day 1, we're gonna drill baby drill!!" and the left says "Trump said he's going to be a dictator!!!"

Don't be the left.. just don't. It makes you sound deranged.

[PAF]

You can argue all you want about the first President in decades not to start any new wars, stop funding ISIS, start to wind the wars down, get friendly with North Korea, help create major peace treaties, etc, being a "war monger", but SS is not lying "here", that is absolutely ridiculous.

Trump literally gets up for 3 hours and does stand-up comedy at his rallies. If this didn't come off as a joke to you, then I don't know what to say. Either you've never heard him speak before, or you have zero sense of humor.

SS is not lying "here", it's the anti-Trumpers in the thread who are lying.

- Trump Escalates Killer Drone War And No One Seems To Care

The Trump administration has significantly increased the tempo of drone strikes in a number of countries, and it has relaxed the rules governing the targeting of these strikes. The result has been an increased number of civilian casualties with even less accountability than before and no redress for the innocent people caught in the middle of our endless wars.

Through the end of 2019, there had already been 148 U.S. strikes launched in Somalia since Trump took office. In just the first half of 2020, there have been as many U.S. drone strikes in Somalia (40) as there were between 2007 and 2016. In less than three and a half years, Trump has more than quadrupled the number of attacks in Somalia ordered by his last two predecessors.


- In 2017, President Donald J. Trump began selling lethal weapons to Ukraine.


- In 2019, President Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, increasing Russian vulnerability to a U.S. first strike.


- President Donald J. Trump signed into law legislation creating the first new armed service since 1947 — the U.S. Space Force.

Donald Trump On The Record

[dannno]

- Trump Escalates Killer Drone War And No One Seems To Care

The Trump administration has significantly increased the tempo of drone strikes in a number of countries, and it has relaxed the rules governing the targeting of these strikes. The result has been an increased number of civilian casualties with even less accountability than before and no redress for the innocent people caught in the middle of our endless wars.

Through the end of 2019, there had already been 148 U.S. strikes launched in Somalia since Trump took office. In just the first half of 2020, there have been as many U.S. drone strikes in Somalia (40) as there were between 2007 and 2016. In less than three and a half years, Trump has more than quadrupled the number of attacks in Somalia ordered by his last two predecessors.


- In 2017, President Donald J. Trump began selling lethal weapons to Ukraine.


- In 2019, President Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, increasing Russian vulnerability to a U.S. first strike.


- President Donald J. Trump signed into law legislation creating the first new armed service since 1947 — the U.S. Space Force.

Donald Trump On The Record

Yes, please stick to this, and don't take Trump's jokes out of context to try and make silly arguments.

We are in huge disagreement on Trump's foreign policy. I think it was largely fantastic, though not perfect, but 99% better than a regime puppet, despite everything you posted. However if you want to take the 1% and blow it up into "he's not Ron Paul", by all means, go for it.

[dannno]

Nice spin. He has no problem pushing government to shut down private businesses.
“We did the right thing, we closed the country down.” “I could have kept it open & I could have done what some countries are doing.” “I had to shut it down, we did the right thing.” “They can’t do anything without the approval of the President of the United States.”

https://x.com/BryceMLipscomb/status/1789790782410367375

Yes, we've debated this endlessly. Trump recommended the governors shut things down for a few weeks. Democrats shut things down for years. Trump immediately tried to open the country back up and got a lot of flack in the media for it. We find out he didn't have the power to shut things down or open them up, it was actually the governors. Ron Paul would have recommended we keep things open and the Democrat governors would have shut $#@! down anyway. So I'm not really sure what the difference would have been effectively in this situation. The media was controlling the narrative and the country at the time. It certainly wasn't Trump controlling the narrative, otherwise we would have just opened back up and put people on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and been over it right quick. If he had fired Fauci, they would have just brought him on the news and it wouldn't have changed a thing.

However, we know, he's not Ron Paul. Just infinitely better than the alternatives. Again, this is something you are allowed to argue and debate, just don't take jokes out of context it makes you sound like Bill Maher or Jimmy Kimmel or Whoopi Goldberg.

[PAF]

Yes, please stick to this, and don't take Trump's jokes out of context to try and make silly arguments.

We are in huge disagreement on Trump's foreign policy. I think it was largely fantastic, though not perfect, but 99% better than a regime puppet, despite everything you posted. However if you want to take the 1% and blow it up into "he's not Ron Paul", by all means, go for it.

Spending $8.2 Trillion in one single term, more than every president in history combined, at what point do you use the tiniest bit of common sense and admit to reality?

The Donald Trump-inspired rise of “populist nationalist conservatism” - America Reaches a Sad Milestone ~ by Ron Paul Aug 5, 2024

[Invisible Man]

Yes, we've debated this endlessly. Trump recommended the governors shut things down for a few weeks. Democrats shut things down for years. Trump immediately tried to open the country back up and got a lot of flack in the media for it. We find out he didn't have the power to shut things down or open them up, it was actually the governors. Ron Paul would have recommended we keep things open and the Democrat governors would have shut $#@! down anyway. So I'm not really sure what the difference would have been effectively in this situation. The media was controlling the narrative and the country at the time. However, we know, he's not Ron Paul. Just infinitely better than the alternatives. Again, this is something you are allowed to argue and debate, just don't take jokes out of context it makes you sound like Bill Maher or Jimmy Kimmel or Whoopi Goldberg.

This is just one lie after another.

[dannno]

This is just one lie after another.

Lol, then the only liar is you.

[jmdrake]

Yes, we've debated this endlessly. Trump recommended the governors shut things down for a few weeks. Democrats shut things down for years. Trump immediately tried to open the country back up and got a lot of flack in the media for it. We find out he didn't have the power to shut things down or open them up, it was actually the governors. Ron Paul would have recommended we keep things open and the Democrat governors would have shut $#@! down anyway. So I'm not really sure what the difference would have been effectively in this situation. The media was controlling the narrative and the country at the time. However, we know, he's not Ron Paul. Just infinitely better than the alternatives. Again, this is something you are allowed to argue and debate, just don't take jokes out of context it makes you sound like Bill Maher or Jimmy Kimmel or Whoopi Goldberg.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-202117

Trump says he told Kemp: ‘I totally disagree’ with move to reopen Georgia

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/talk-t...ry?id=69926173

After talk with Trump, Florida reverses course on coronavirus stay-at-home order

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichola...-out-of-space/

Trump Breaks With DeSantis, Says Florida In A ‘Tough Position’ As ICUs Run Out
Jul 21, 2020,07:18pm EDT
Updated Jul 21, 2020, 07:18pm EDT
This article is more than 4 years old.
TOPLINE President Donald Trump said Tuesday that Florida is a state with a “tough” coronavirus problem, in a sharp contrast with Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, who continued to paint a rosy picture of the state’s coronavirus crisis Tuesday, saying Florida is “going in a good direction” just hours after the state reported its highest-ever coronavirus hospitalization increase.

[dannno]

Spending $8.2 Trillion in one single term, more than every president in history combined, at what point do you use the tiniest bit of common sense and admit to reality?

The Donald Trump-inspired rise of “populist nationalist conservatism” - America Reaches a Sad Milestone ~ by Ron Paul Aug 5, 2024

Dude, we debate all this stuff in the threads on spending. This is a thread about a joke Trump made, that you are lying about.

Yes ,Trump was weak on this issue, even though he didn't create the spending bills.. congress did.. Trump got some things out of them that he wanted, he should have vetoed them.. However they would have just gone back to the House/Senate and they would have passed a bill that got 2/3 majority and would be veto-proof.

Congress can override a veto by passing the act by a two-thirds vote in both the House and the Senate. (Usually an act is passed with a simple majority.) This check prevents the President from blocking an act when significant support for it exists.

I wonder how many of those spending bills got less than 2/3 vote anyway.. and if they did, they still would have passed a similar variation with 2/3 vote.

Congress is the primary culprit when it comes to spending. If it were up to Trump, the COVID relief bills would have been 90% slimmer, there was a ton of crap packed into those bills and not a damn thing he could do about it.. except maybe send it back to congress where they would have come up with a bill that would pass with 2/3 majority. It would have just made him look bad to the average person and hurt his chances at re-election.

[dannno]

How Every House Member Voted on the Coronavirus Relief Bill
By JASMINE C. LEE MARCH 14, 2020


The House voted 363-40 early on Saturday to pass a coronavirus relief package, a move that came after the World Health Organization declared the virus a pandemic. The bill includes free virus testing for those who lack insurance, paid sick leave, family and medical leave programs, enhanced unemployment benefits, additional food aid and federal funds for Medicaid.

You guys need to learn how the government works. I would start with that one cartoon that we all watched in elementary school. Were you asleep?

Trump couldn't have stopped the corona virus relief funding package, even if he wanted. All he would have done was veto it, it would have passed anyway, and it would have drastically hurt his re-election chances.

So explain to me some more how the spending problem is Trump's fault...

[PAF]

Lol, then the only liar is you.

RE: Donald Trump On The Record which I hand out often:

This lady and a couple of her sidekicks attend our Liberty Group Meetings. She is a fully devout Christian and against the evil Satanists. She insists that Obama and Biden remained in the White House in a secret special room during 2016-2020 and used AI and voice-over technologies to make it sound and look like Trump said and did those things. She then went on to say that Obama and Biden then transmit all of that to the news outlets.

I asked "how in the world does Obama and Biden have the tech know-how to do all of that", and she insists that Satan planted the technical knowledge into their minds.

I bring this up because there is no arguing with people who truly need "help" that I do not have the qualifications to provide. Trump is, after all, "Sent by God"

[dannno]

RE: Donald Trump On The Record which I hand out often:

This lady and a couple of her sidekicks attend our Liberty Group Meetings. She is a fully devout Christian and against the evil Satanists. She insists that Obama and Biden remained in the White House in a secret special room during 2016-2020 and used AI and voice-over technologies to make it sound and look like Trump said and did those things. She then went on to say that Obama and Biden then transmit all of that to the news outlets.

I asked "how in the world does Obama and Biden have the tech know-how to do all of that", and she insists that Satan planted the technical knowledge into their minds.

I bring this up because there is no arguing with people who truly need "help" that I do not have the qualifications to provide. Trump is, after all, "Sent by God"

Ok, but this has nothing to do with the fact that the spending bills were veto-proof.

I'm talking about things that actually happened.

[dannno]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-202117

Trump says he told Kemp: ‘I totally disagree’ with move to reopen Georgia

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/talk-t...ry?id=69926173

After talk with Trump, Florida reverses course on coronavirus stay-at-home order

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichola...-out-of-space/

Trump Breaks With DeSantis, Says Florida In A ‘Tough Position’ As ICUs Run Out
Jul 21, 2020,07:18pm EDT
Updated Jul 21, 2020, 07:18pm EDT
This article is more than 4 years old.
TOPLINE President Donald Trump said Tuesday that Florida is a state with a “tough” coronavirus problem, in a sharp contrast with Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, who continued to paint a rosy picture of the state’s coronavirus crisis Tuesday, saying Florida is “going in a good direction” just hours after the state reported its highest-ever coronavirus hospitalization increase.

We've debated this before.. one of those articles is April 1st, so it's completely irrelevant to what I said. These were all early on, and even the article from July, you have to go half way down the article before it admits he was referring to "certain facilities" like tattoo parlors.. then the other article about Florida, talks about DeSantis shutting things down. He wasn't very good either, until later on.

You aren't going to convince me that Trump wasn't one of our best advocates for getting the country back open quickly in all of government.. because he was, and he got a LOT of flack for it in the media. Yes, Rand Paul was better. Got it.

[PAF]

Ok, but this has nothing to do with the fact that the spending bills were veto-proof.

I'm talking about things that actually happened.

As @acptulsa has repeated over and over again, nothing is "veto-proof". Trump simply could have vetoed the bills and explained to his base how dangerous they were so that said constituents could have put more pressure on their Representatives - even if Congress over-rode his vetoes AFTER he vetoed them.

BUT HE DID NOT. He actually voiced SUPPORT of them.

And THAT actually happened.

[TheCount]

Thank God I didn't listen to him when he said to inject bleach into my veins.

It was a joke bro can't you tell when he's joking

[dannno]

As @acptulsa has repeated over and over again, nothing is "veto-proof". Trump simply could have vetoed the bills and explained to his base how dangerous they were so that said constituents could have put more pressure on their Representatives - even if Congress over-rode his vetoes AFTER he vetoed them.

BUT HE DID NOT. He actually voiced SUPPORT of them.

And THAT actually happened.

Maybe some day we can test to see how effective that actually is, and see if that libertarian leaning President gets re-elected.

[dannno]

It was a joke bro can't you tell when he's joking

He was talking about injecting light into the body, that wasn't a joke. They were actually testing that at the time, Trump knew they were testing it, and Dr. Berks did not know they were testing it.

He also didn't tell Americans to DO anything, he was just asking if they were testing injecting light into the body as a disinfectant, then the media came out and told everybody that he was telling people to inject bleach.

But you knew that, you just don't care. You prefer to lie about everything for some reason. If you can twist something Trump says into a late-night comedy joke, you get your chuckles, and it increases your dopamine. It's like a drug.

[PAF]

Maybe some day we can test to see how effective that actually is, and see if that libertarian leaning President gets re-elected.

Well, as long as there are people like you, and the Christian ladies who attend my liberty group meetings, libertarian principles don't stand a bloody chance in he||. Which is why I am an anarchist, in case you were wondering.

The easy path to tyranny is what you and others advocate. ie; lesser of evil is still evil.

Don't forget your "I Voted!" sticker!

[TheCount]

He was talking about injecting light into the body, that wasn't a joke. They were actually testing that at the time, Trump knew they were testing it, and Dr. Berks did not know they were testing it.

He also didn't tell Americans to DO anything, he was just asking if they were testing injecting light into the body as a disinfectant, then the media came out and told everybody that he was telling people to inject bleach.

But you knew that, you just don't care. You prefer to lie about everything for some reason.

A press conference to ask questions is an interesting concept.

[jmdrake]

We've debated this before.. one of those articles is April 1st, so it's completely irrelevant to what I said. These were all early on, and even the article from July, you have to go half way down the article before it admits he was referring to "certain facilities" like tattoo parlors.. then the other article about Florida, talks about DeSantis shutting things down. He wasn't very good either, until later on.

You aren't going to convince me that Trump wasn't one of our best advocates for getting the country back open quickly in all of government.. because he was, and he got a LOT of flack for it in the media. Yes, Rand Paul was better. Got it.

It sounds like governors Desantis and Kemp were also better.

[Madison320]

Dude, we debate all this stuff in the threads on spending. This is a thread about a joke Trump made, that you are lying about.

Yes ,Trump was weak on this issue, even though he didn't create the spending bills.. congress did.. Trump got some things out of them that he wanted, he should have vetoed them.. However they would have just gone back to the House/Senate and they would have passed a bill that got 2/3 majority and would be veto-proof.



I wonder how many of those spending bills got less than 2/3 vote anyway.. and if they did, they still would have passed a similar variation with 2/3 vote.

Congress is the primary culprit when it comes to spending. If it were up to Trump, the COVID relief bills would have been 90% slimmer, there was a ton of crap packed into those bills and not a damn thing he could do about it.. except maybe send it back to congress where they would have come up with a bill that would pass with 2/3 majority. It would have just made him look bad to the average person and hurt his chances at re-election.

That's fine but when we get an even bigger spike in price inflation during Trump's term he owns it. Don't try shifting the blame. I'm not saying Trump is any worse on spending than most anyone else, they all suck, just don't make excuses.

[jmdrake]

He was talking about injecting light into the body, that wasn't a joke. They were actually testing that at the time, Trump knew they were testing it, and Dr. Berks did not know they were testing it.

He also didn't tell Americans to DO anything, he was just asking if they were testing injecting light into the body as a disinfectant, then the media came out and told everybody that he was telling people to inject bleach.

But you knew that, you just don't care. You prefer to lie about everything for some reason. If you can twist something Trump says into a late-night comedy joke, you get your chuckles, and it increases your dopamine. It's like a drug.

He talked about light and disinfectant.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it`s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn`t been checked, but you`re going to check it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you`re going to test that too. Sounds interesting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ll get to the right folks who could.

TRUMP: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you`re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds interesting to me

And just to be clear about the meaning of the word "disinfectant."

And when that — while that comes up, you’ll see a number of some practical applications. For example, increasing the temperature and humidity of potentially contaminated indoor spaces appears to reduce the stability of the virus. And extra care may be warranted for dry environments that do not have exposure to solar light.

We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

So no. It's not at all a logical and honest explaination to say Trump was talking about light inside the body when he talked about disinfectant inside the body.

Even Trump didn't try the "I was really talking about light" argument. His explanation? He was being sarcastic.

"I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters just like you, just to see what would happen," Trump said on Friday during a bill signing for the coronavirus aid package. "I was asking a sarcastic and a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it and it would kill it on the hands, and it would make things much better."

We've gone over this more times than I care to count and I'm sure you're going to claim against Trump's own explanation that somehow he was talking about light both times when he was actually talking about light inside the body and injecting chemical disinectant. You are correct that he didn't advise anyone to actually do either.

[dannno]

It sounds like governors Desantis and Kemp were also better.

If you held them to the same standards as you do Trump, not really..

[dannno]

He talked about light and disinfectant.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it`s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn`t been checked, but you`re going to check it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you`re going to test that too. Sounds interesting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ll get to the right folks who could.

TRUMP: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you`re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds interesting to me

And just to be clear about the meaning of the word "disinfectant."

And when that — while that comes up, you’ll see a number of some practical applications. For example, increasing the temperature and humidity of potentially contaminated indoor spaces appears to reduce the stability of the virus. And extra care may be warranted for dry environments that do not have exposure to solar light.

We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

So no. It's not at all a logical and honest explaination to say Trump was talking about light inside the body when he talked about disinfectant inside the body.

Even Trump didn't try the "I was really talking about light" argument. His explanation? He was being sarcastic.

"I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters just like you, just to see what would happen," Trump said on Friday during a bill signing for the coronavirus aid package. "I was asking a sarcastic and a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it and it would kill it on the hands, and it would make things much better."

We've gone over this more times than I care to count and I'm sure you're going to claim against Trump's own explanation that somehow he was talking about light both times when he was actually talking about light inside the body and injecting chemical disinectant. You are correct that he didn't advise anyone to actually do either.

LOL... Thanks CNN.. you edited out the part where, at the end, he AGAIN clarified he was talking about light as the disinfectant. It literally came RIGHT AFTER the part you cut off.. was that on purpose? That's what we now colloquially refer to as a "Rupar".

Trump says light is a powerful disinfectant - Trump says what if we put the light (aka disinfectant) into the body. What if we injected it? (Yes, they were testing INJECTING light into the body at Cedar Sinai hospital at the time). Then he clarifies he is talking about light as the disinfectant.

Of course you can skew it into anything you want, because Trump is not a scientist and was not using precise language. That doesn't mean it is a responsible thing to go around claiming he is telling people to drink or inject bleach (he never used the word bleach).

[WarriorLiberty]

Dude, just stahp....

This thread is dead on arrival.

If you want to criticize Trump, stick to he's not as good as I would like on 2A, wars, speding, etc..

Don't be like the left and take Trump's jokes out of context..

I.e. when Trump was asked if he would be a dictator, he said "Only on day 1, we're gonna drill baby drill!!" and the left says "Trump said he's going to be a dictator!!!"

Don't be the left.. just don't. It makes you sound deranged.

The EVs are nothing but a joke on normal folks Elon Musk obsession with the EVs and Androids replacing the human economy is amusing.

[dannno]

The EVs are nothing but a joke on normal folks Elon Musk obsession with the EVs and Androids replacing the human economy is amusing.

EVs are not a joke, they are just not a viable alternative to gas powered vehicles in all instances, currently, and should not be subsidized or mandated.

As battery tech gets better, and as we shift toward nuclear energy, they will eventually largely replace gas powered vehicles, because they will be better and cheaper with greater range. However they should NEVER be mandated, you should be able to open a gas station or own a gas powered car for as long as you want.

[PAF]

LOL... Thanks CNN.. you edited out the part where, at the end, he AGAIN clarified he was talking about light as the disinfectant. It literally came RIGHT AFTER the part you cut off.. was that on purpose? That's what we now colloquially refer to as a "Rupar".

Trump says light is a powerful disinfectant - Trump says what if we put the light (aka disinfectant) into the body. What if we injected it? (Yes, they were testing INJECTING light into the body at Cedar Sinai hospital at the time). Then he clarifies he is talking about light as the disinfectant.

Of course you can skew it into anything you want, because Trump is not a scientist and was not using precise language. That doesn't mean it is a responsible thing to go around claiming he is telling people to drink or inject bleach (he never used the word bleach).

My response to another poster in another thread:


Trump is not qualified to make medical recommendations. Only your own personal/private physician knows your and your family medical history. Get off of that Trump recommended this or that bandwagon, I don't buy that Trumpscuse and never will.

Trump is a businessman, sat on executive boards, reads and fully understands contracts, and knows how to interview employees. There is no excuse, or "mistake" as you like to put it.

Trump met with RFK Jr. concerning vaccine safety but quickly dismissed him after meeting with Bill Gates more than several times and implemented Bill Gates' agenda.

According to US Federal Election Commission documents (page 163), Pfizer, Inc. donated $1 million to Trump’s Presidential Inauguration Committee on December 22, 2016 and received four tickets to the Leadership Luncheon with Cabinet appointees and House and Senate Leadership.

Donald Trump appointed Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a well known physician with ties to the pharmaceutical industry as an FDA Commissioner in March, 2017. Two years later, on June 27, 2019, Gottlieb was elected to Pfizer’s Board of Directors to serve on its Regulatory and Compliance Committee.

Trump hired Moncef Slaoui, board member of Moderna and GlaxoSmithKline, to head Operation Warp Speed. OWS is a Public/Private Partnership, used BARDA as the financial interface between the U.S. federal government and the biomedical industry, which contributed to the largest transfer of wealth from the low/middle class to the upper 1%.

Bill Gates led the effort To get $3.36 Billion into the Coronavirus Deal.

Prior to Covid being announced, Trump signed into law the revised PREP Act which provides complete immunity to Pharmaceutical Corporations from being prosecuted in the event of harm and/or death.

Now, you ask yourself why he would grant complete immunity when it deals with people's lives.

And you want to vote for that???

And while some of us are trying to bring things back to local, you are all for his Nationalized University, Nationalized "Stop and Frisk" and Nationalized Local LEO Immunity. Because "communism". AmIRight?

[jmdrake]

LOL... Thanks CNN.. you edited out the part where, at the end, he AGAIN clarified he was talking about light as the disinfectant. It literally came RIGHT AFTER the part you cut off.. was that on purpose? That's what we now colloquially refer to as a "Rupar".

Trump says light is a powerful disinfectant - Trump says what if we put the light (aka disinfectant) into the body. What if we injected it? (Yes, they were testing INJECTING light into the body at Cedar Sinai hospital at the time). Then he clarifies he is talking about light as the disinfectant.

Of course you can skew it into anything you want, because Trump is not a scientist and was not using precise language. That doesn't mean it is a responsible thing to go around claiming he is telling people to drink or inject bleach (he never used the word bleach).

I wasn't going from CNN. And no, Trump never said what you are falsely claiming he said. You simply are making things up. Here is the link.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...s-briefing-31/

Quote where Trump said "By disinfectant I mean light." He never said that and you know it! And his defense is that he was being "saracastic." Why can't you taken Trump at his word?

I wasn't going from CNN. And no, Trump never said what you are falsely claiming he said. You simply are making things up. Here is the link.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...s-briefing-31/

Quote where Trump said "By disinfectant I mean light." He never said that and you know it! And his defense is that he was being "saracastic." Why can't you taken Trump at his word?

Here's the entire light inside the body / disinfectant exchange. I'll label the paragraphs 1), 2), 3) etc for clarity.

1) THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

2) ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

3) THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

4) So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful.

Paragraph 1) Trump talks about asking about light inside the body. Paragraph 2) the undersecretary response. Paragraph 3) Trump pivots to disinfectant! The disinfectant had already be identified as bleach or ispropyl alcohol. Paragraph 4) Trump starts talking about light again. Nowhere did Trump, or anyone else for that matter, refer to light as "disinfectant." Key transition phrase in Paragraph 3 "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute."

And, of course, the part you cannot get around is Trump never used your explanation when asked to clarify his remarks. He had a chance when he was asked later about this to say "When I see the disinfectant, I really meant I see UV light being used as a disinfectant inside the body" BUT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT! He said "I was being sarcastic." The truth ishe was out of his element and didn't know what he was talking about. And that's okay for mere mortals but not for "I can never admit I got anything wrong" Trump. And I get it. With the media as hostile as they are towards him simply saying "My musings about disinfectant, which was not advice but just thinking out loud, may have been off, but the UV light inside the body is a real possibility" is just apparently not in the cards for the way he rolls.

[jmdrake]

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Instead of relying on Timelines, Money and the Record, some are dead-set on crafting interpretations, meaning and excuses to believe what they wish to believe, which does nothing to advance liberty and fiscal responsibility. We have been down this path for well over 200 years, short of a small percent who are aware, nothing is going to change until it completely collapses.

@dannno