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    Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me

    Former President Donald Trump said he had "no choice" but to support electric vehicles after Tesla CEO Elon Musk "endorsed" him.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rsement-2024-8
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    That's because:

    "The White House's infrastructure tracking website shows that only 15 charging stations have been installed so far. An analysis published by research firm Atlas Public Policy shows that each station received about $770,000 in federal funding."


    Trump will fix that for Elon, just like he did for Pfizer when Pfizer gave Trump $1,000,000 for his Inauguration Event in 2016.

    Trump likes to "Nationalize" everything, because "communism".


    But at least, after you pay for it, it will be a "choice" whether you use it or not.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-04-2024 at 07:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That's because:
    "The White House's infrastructure tracking website shows that only 15 charging stations have been installed so far. An analysis published by research firm Atlas Public Policy shows that each station received about $770,000 in federal funding."


    Trump will fix that for Elon, just like he did for Pfizer when Pfizer gave Trump $1,000,000 for his Inauguration Event in 2016.

    Trump likes to "Nationalize" everything, because "communism".


    But at least, after you pay for it, it will be a "choice" whether you use it or not.
    Utter inversion of the truth, Trump attacked the mandate and the subsidies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Utter inversion of the truth, Trump attacked the mandate and the subsidies.
    You never did get back to me several times about that Agenda47 "American University" where he wants to fine private donations.
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    Just wait for some whopper future flip-flops from Trump.

    You'll get so much freedom that you won't be able to sit down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Just wait for some whopper future flip-flops from Trump.

    You'll get so much freedom that you won't be able to sit down.
    Our heads will spin with all the freedom we're going to get.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Just wait for some whopper future flip-flops from Trump.

    You'll get so much freedom that you won't be able to sit down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Our heads will spin with all the freedom we're going to get.
    Try reading the article instead of the twisted headline and out of context quote of a joke.
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    However, he also criticized EV infrastructure and Biden's EV mandates.
    Former President Donald Trump said he had "no choice" but to support electric vehicles after Tesla CEO Elon Musk "endorsed" him.
    Trump then went on to criticize the EV industry at length.
    "Not everybody has to have an electric car. I told him that," Trump said, referencing Musk. "So we're going to get rid of that mandate if you don't mind. Some people want gasoline-propelled cars, some people want a hybrid, and some people like an electric car."
    IT'S A JOKE, he's making a joke.

    And he wants MORE freedom, not less.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    IT'S A JOKE, he's making a joke.

    And he wants MORE freedom, not less.

    More freedom, like he did with Pfizer:


    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    But at least, after you pay for it, it will be a "choice" whether you use it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    More freedom, like he did with Pfizer:
    You are lying, that's not what he said, he said the opposite.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are lying, that's not what he said, he said the opposite.
    You're the one lying here. You have a history of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLilly View Post
    You're the one lying here. You have a history of it
    You can argue all you want about the first President in decades not to start any new wars, stop funding ISIS, start to wind the wars down, get friendly with North Korea, help create major peace treaties, etc, being a "war monger", but SS is not lying "here", that is absolutely ridiculous.

    Trump literally gets up for 3 hours and does stand-up comedy at his rallies. If this didn't come off as a joke to you, then I don't know what to say. Either you've never heard him speak before, or you have zero sense of humor.

    We can debate Trump on 2A, I will say you are wrong, we can argue on and on..

    SS is not lying "here", it's the anti-Trumpers in the thread who are lying "here". This is not even up for debate.
    Last edited by dannno; 08-05-2024 at 09:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLilly View Post
    You're the one lying here. You have a history of it
    LOL
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Trump has also repeatedly criticized the cost of installing EV chargers nationwide.
    ...
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are lying, that's not what he said, he said the opposite.
    Oh, and I believe you and not his prior Record concerning other/similar things.

    So how about that "Nationalized" American University?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh, and I believe you and not his prior Record concerning other/similar things.
    You can believe his record of deregulation, particularly about CAFE regulations on cars.
    He's always fought against "green" subsidies and mandates.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...

    They really need to make one with Trump's mug instead of MittObam-ney:

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    Fake news, just like the OP:

    Elon Musk Says Report Of $45 Million Monthly Donation To Pro-Trump Super PAC Was “Made Up Fiction By WSJ”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...s-made-fiction
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
    Anti-can't keep his word. He writes too many checks with his mouth. A big spending, war mongering, anti 2nd amendment POS. Hang your hat on that if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLilly View Post
    Anti-can't keep his word. He writes too many checks with his mouth. A big spending, war mongering, anti 2nd amendment POS. Hang your hat on that if you wish.
    Bunk.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bunk.
    Truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
    Because the moment the media says something negative about Trump, the MSM suddenly has 100,000% credibility.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
    If you're saying that Trump's words are 100% bull$#@! then we're in violent agreement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.
    So he didn't already lose your support when he was all over the Ethanol nonsense (to name just one similar kind of nonsense)?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.
    Dude, just stahp....

    This thread is dead on arrival.

    If you want to criticize Trump, stick to he's not as good as I would like on 2A, wars, speding, etc..

    Don't be like the left and take Trump's jokes out of context..

    I.e. when Trump was asked if he would be a dictator, he said "Only on day 1, we're gonna drill baby drill!!" and the left says "Trump said he's going to be a dictator!!!"

    Don't be the left.. just don't. It makes you sound deranged.
    Last edited by dannno; 08-05-2024 at 10:01 AM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Dude, just stahp....

    This thread is dead on arrival.

    If you want to criticize Trump, stick to he's not as good as I would like on 2A, wars, speding, etc..

    Don't be like the left and take Trump's jokes out of context..

    I.e. when Trump was asked if he would be a dictator, he said "Only on day 1, we're gonna drill baby drill!!" and the left says "Trump said he's going to be a dictator!!!"

    Don't be the left.. just don't. It makes you sound deranged.
    The EVs are nothing but a joke on normal folks Elon Musk obsession with the EVs and Androids replacing the human economy is amusing.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    The EVs are nothing but a joke on normal folks Elon Musk obsession with the EVs and Androids replacing the human economy is amusing.
    EVs are not a joke, they are just not a viable alternative to gas powered vehicles in all instances, currently, and should not be subsidized or mandated.

    As battery tech gets better, and as we shift toward nuclear energy, they will eventually largely replace gas powered vehicles, because they will be better and cheaper with greater range. However they should NEVER be mandated, you should be able to open a gas station or own a gas powered car for as long as you want.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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