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    Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me

    Former President Donald Trump said he had "no choice" but to support electric vehicles after Tesla CEO Elon Musk "endorsed" him.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rsement-2024-8
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    That's because:

    "The White House's infrastructure tracking website shows that only 15 charging stations have been installed so far. An analysis published by research firm Atlas Public Policy shows that each station received about $770,000 in federal funding."


    Trump will fix that for Elon, just like he did for Pfizer when Pfizer gave Trump $1,000,000 for his Inauguration Event in 2016.

    Trump likes to "Nationalize" everything, because "communism".


    But at least, after you pay for it, it will be a "choice" whether you use it or not.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-04-2024 at 07:21 PM.
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    Just wait for some whopper future flip-flops from Trump.

    You'll get so much freedom that you won't be able to sit down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Just wait for some whopper future flip-flops from Trump.

    You'll get so much freedom that you won't be able to sit down.
    Our heads will spin with all the freedom we're going to get.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    However, he also criticized EV infrastructure and Biden's EV mandates.
    Former President Donald Trump said he had "no choice" but to support electric vehicles after Tesla CEO Elon Musk "endorsed" him.
    Trump then went on to criticize the EV industry at length.
    "Not everybody has to have an electric car. I told him that," Trump said, referencing Musk. "So we're going to get rid of that mandate if you don't mind. Some people want gasoline-propelled cars, some people want a hybrid, and some people like an electric car."
    IT'S A JOKE, he's making a joke.

    And he wants MORE freedom, not less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Just wait for some whopper future flip-flops from Trump.

    You'll get so much freedom that you won't be able to sit down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Our heads will spin with all the freedom we're going to get.
    Try reading the article instead of the twisted headline and out of context quote of a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That's because:
    "The White House's infrastructure tracking website shows that only 15 charging stations have been installed so far. An analysis published by research firm Atlas Public Policy shows that each station received about $770,000 in federal funding."


    Trump will fix that for Elon, just like he did for Pfizer when Pfizer gave Trump $1,000,000 for his Inauguration Event in 2016.

    Trump likes to "Nationalize" everything, because "communism".


    But at least, after you pay for it, it will be a "choice" whether you use it or not.
    Utter inversion of the truth, Trump attacked the mandate and the subsidies.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    IT'S A JOKE, he's making a joke.

    And he wants MORE freedom, not less.

    More freedom, like he did with Pfizer:


    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    But at least, after you pay for it, it will be a "choice" whether you use it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Utter inversion of the truth, Trump attacked the mandate and the subsidies.
    You never did get back to me several times about that Agenda47 "American University" where he wants to fine private donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    More freedom, like he did with Pfizer:
    You are lying, that's not what he said, he said the opposite.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Trump has also repeatedly criticized the cost of installing EV chargers nationwide.
    ...
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are lying, that's not what he said, he said the opposite.
    Oh, and I believe you and not his prior Record concerning other/similar things.

    So how about that "Nationalized" American University?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...

    They really need to make one with Trump's mug instead of MittObam-ney:

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    Fake news, just like the OP:

    Elon Musk Says Report Of $45 Million Monthly Donation To Pro-Trump Super PAC Was “Made Up Fiction By WSJ”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...s-made-fiction
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh, and I believe you and not his prior Record concerning other/similar things.
    You can believe his record of deregulation, particularly about CAFE regulations on cars.
    He's always fought against "green" subsidies and mandates.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
    If you're saying that Trump's words are 100% bull$#@! then we're in violent agreement.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You can believe his record of deregulation, particularly about CAFE regulations on cars.
    He's always fought against "green" subsidies and mandates.
    Deregulation is great. But not when passing into law complete immunity for Big Pharm and Local LEO - all while increasing the debt by giving away federal tax dollars to those special interests. And then go on to pardon actual criminals who harm people, while not granting pardons to heroes who warn about such things.

    Last edited by PAF; 08-05-2024 at 08:01 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are lying, that's not what he said, he said the opposite.
    You're the one lying here. You have a history of it

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    Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't know how anti-Trumpers even survive on their diet of 100% bull$#@!. I prefer grass fed cattle MEAT.
    Anti-can't keep his word. He writes too many checks with his mouth. A big spending, war mongering, anti 2nd amendment POS. Hang your hat on that if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You can believe his record of deregulation, particularly about CAFE regulations on cars.
    He's always fought against "green" subsidies and mandates.
    Nice spin. He has no problem pushing government to shut down private businesses.
    “We did the right thing, we closed the country down.” “I could have kept it open & I could have done what some countries are doing.” “I had to shut it down, we did the right thing.” “They can’t do anything without the approval of the President of the United States.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Well if Trump will be all over this EV nonsense i dont support Trump.
    So he didn't already lose your support when he was all over the Ethanol nonsense (to name just one similar kind of nonsense)?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)



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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Deregulation is great. But not when passing into law complete immunity for Big Pharm and Local LEO - all while increasing the debt by giving away federal tax dollars to those special interests. And then go on to pardon actual criminals who harm people, while not granting pardons to heroes who warn about such things.

    Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

    That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

    It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

    Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

    Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-05-2024 at 08:50 AM.
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    Thank God I didn't listen to him when he said to inject bleach into my veins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

    That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

    It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

    Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

    Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.

    Don't make Trumpscuses. My position is that of both minarchists and full anarchists.

    The person or persons harmed should have every right to prosecute in the event of damages/harm/death. It was your guy who prevented that, while at the same time gave your tax dollars to private corporations [corporate welfare of magnitude to the Nth degree].
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

    That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

    It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

    Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

    Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.
    There is are serious logical and functional differences between these statements. They're not really even on the same continent.

    1) I believe the process of handling criminal behavior can and should be handled by market forces

    2) I believe the state should take an active role in prohibiting the handling of criminal behavior perpetrated by certain actors
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wait wait wait...I thought the ana-cap's position was that there should be no regulations on any business enterprise, ever, of any type?

    That only the market and the market alone decides whether a business enterprise is acting in good faith and providing a quality, safe and effective product?

    It looks like, from this post. that you're arguing that some businesses should be sued or prosecuted for death and damages their failed products caused and that certain criminals should be prosecuted as well.

    Well, now you're right back to square one: because that means judges and cops and laws and juries and prisons and so on.

    Sounds like you actually are a minarchist.
    Is your assumption that free markets could not provide judges, cops, laws, juries, and prisons?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by BLilly View Post
    You're the one lying here. You have a history of it
    You can argue all you want about the first President in decades not to start any new wars, stop funding ISIS, start to wind the wars down, get friendly with North Korea, help create major peace treaties, etc, being a "war monger", but SS is not lying "here", that is absolutely ridiculous.

    Trump literally gets up for 3 hours and does stand-up comedy at his rallies. If this didn't come off as a joke to you, then I don't know what to say. Either you've never heard him speak before, or you have zero sense of humor.

    We can debate Trump on 2A, I will say you are wrong, we can argue on and on..

    SS is not lying "here", it's the anti-Trumpers in the thread who are lying "here". This is not even up for debate.
    Last edited by dannno; 08-05-2024 at 09:57 AM.
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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