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Thread: Is China Really Buying Up U.S. Farmland?

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Or Bill Gates, though even he only owns a tiny smidgen.
    The fake news which is the mainstream news and the fake alternative news
    constantly seeks to deflect attention away from the real conspirators because the real conspirators own them, literally.

    They don't own China, so they want to use us to overthrow China. Same for Venezuela, Iran, Syria, Russia,
    anywhere they don't yet own or owned and lost is what they want us to retake for them.

    Then they can send in their billionaires and enslave the people. With the farmland, they want to control all food.
    It's like Damien Thorne in the Omen. This is their actual plan. They want to enslave the world.
    Last edited by Snowball; 08-03-2024 at 05:53 AM.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The fake news which is the mainstream news and the fake alternative news
    constantly seeks to deflect attention away from the real conspirators because the real conspirators own them, literally.

    They don't own China, so they want to use us to overthrow China. Same for Venezuela, Iran, Syria, Russia,
    anywhere they don't yet own or owned and lost is what they want us to retake for them.
    There's also distraction and deflection. Don't look at Monsanto and ADM. Look where the real problem isn't.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    There's also distraction and deflection. Don't look at Monsanto and ADM. Look where the real problem isn't.
    Yes, absolutely. As Americans we tend to still think of these outfits as actual companies. They aren't anymore.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The pretense that China is not an enemy of America and liberty has long grown so threadbare that everyone sees through it.
    Are there also other enemies? of course, but that's not an excuse to pretend that interdependence with one of the worst tyrannies and one of the greatest builders of global government is not a problem.

    We must completely decouple from China and remove them from our country.

    It's clear what those who gaslight us about China want, they want CCP style tyranny and global government.
    It's probably senseless to even explain to you that it's completely false that China owns over 75% of U.S. land when in reality they own only a mere less than three-hundredths of 1%, and that this tactic is being used to incite fear into the people in order to spend spend spend for more government "solutions", when the first order of business should be to get spending under control here at home first. The MIC love people like you because of your generous donations.

    Also, see posts above.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-03-2024 at 08:25 AM.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It's probably senseless to even explain to you that it's completely false that China owns over 75% of U.S. land when in reality they own only a mere less than three-hundredths of 1%, and that this tactic is being used to incite fear into the people in order to spend spend spend for more government "solutions", when the first order of business should be to get spending under control here at home first. The MIC love people like you because of your generous donations.
    Too bad I never said they owned that much.
    They shouldn't own a single acre, especially not near military bases and other sensitive sites.
    And land ownership is the least of the dangers they pose that require our decoupling and their expulsion.
    Getting China out of our country has nothing to do with whether we cut spending or not, unless it helps to make it easier by reducing their support of the communist Demoncrats.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It's probably senseless to even explain to you that it's completely false that China owns over 75% of U.S. land when in reality they own only a mere less than three-hundredths of 1%, and that this tactic is being used to incite fear into the people in order to spend spend spend for more government "solutions", when the first order of business should be to get spending under control here at home first.
    Well that was the safest bet of the day. Isn't it funny that his "rebuttal" of your point completely failed to address your point?

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Too bad I never said they owned that much.
    They shouldn't own a single acre, especially not near military bases and other sensitive sites.
    And land ownership is the least of the dangers they pose that require our decoupling and their expulsion.
    Getting China out of our country has nothing to do with whether we cut spending or not, unless it helps to make it easier by reducing their support of the communist Demoncrats.
    I'll just lump communist Demoncrats in with the Fascist RepuGlicans right here.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well that was the safest bet of the day. Isn't it funny that his "rebuttal" of your point completely failed to address your point?
    He typically does. As I sip my coffee in the morning I enjoy watching you shred him to pieces.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I'll just lump communist Demoncrats in with the Fascist RepuGlicans right here.
    They both MADE China what it is. And the same idiots who voted for them in the 90's are backing the same political duopoly.

    Choosing between the Dems and Reps isn't even voting. They are just brands of the same corporation.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh, good grief.

    I don't vote because I do not consent. But that doesn't mean that I don't call BOTH sides, reps and senators, to voice my disgust with them. The problem is, when I call, I am always told "nobody else is calling about this issue, you're the only one".

    Meaning, you're vote doesn't count for sh|t. If EVERYBODY called, the politicians would then feel pressure. You "voters" just don't get that.

    If the votes didn't matter, they wouldn't have stolen it the way they did in 2020. The 2020 nonsense showed me that the votes did matter still, even if it was a little.
    And I am of like mind where I do generally believe voting doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, especially at/for the federal level. You need to keep in mind the audience around here are all of similar backgrounds and saw the truth behind the "system" in 2008 and 2012.

    I also need to call out that we're right back to the lesser of two evils nonsense, just like every election. But, Kamala is effectively a communist. I don't believe Trump is. He may be many other things, but I will certainly not encourage people to vote for a commie over a moron. I'll take the moron 8 days out of 7. Maybe everyone's just a new level of cynical around here.
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  14. #41
    Non citizens should not be allowed to own any real estate in the US.

    There, problem solved.

    ETA - I forgot to mention that includes corps, trusts, shell companies, non profits, charities and NGOs.

    Many of the invaders are being funneled through safe houses owned and funded by foreign NGOs and non profits.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-03-2024 at 01:55 PM.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Non citizens should not be allowed to own any real estate in the US.

    There, problem solved.
    Yes. Thank you.
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  16. #43
    In northern Missouri, the chinks own 100,000 acres or more from their purchase of Smithfield.

    The REPUBLICANS in the Missouri legislature made it their #1 priority to overturn laws that prevented the foreign ownership of large farms to facilitate the sale of Smithfield to the chi-comms.

    Now, the Repulsivecans are all running on divesting in China and barring land sales.

    They don't mean it.

    It's a lie.

    This is just posturing in an election year to pander to Boobus, with his goldfish memory.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes they are, and they are in bed with the others who do.
    Not even close but go on with your nonsense of anti China/Russia.

    Its not China, Russia that spend billions on EGS/DEI programs to have anti white bias ins schools or public funded institutions.
    Which this is something that happened long ago.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 08-03-2024 at 03:27 PM.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They both MADE China what it is. And the same idiots who voted for them in the 90's are backing the same political duopoly.

    Choosing between the Dems and Reps isn't even voting. They are just brands of the same corporation.
    Everybody keeps saying that and on many levels it's true.

    But there are advantages to not voting for the Marxists.

    Judicial appointments for instance.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Everybody keeps saying that and on many levels it's true.

    But there are advantages to not voting for the Marxists.

    Judicial appointments for instance.
    yeah, i know. This is why I don't argue with people who are voting Republican.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    yeah, i know. This is why I don't argue with people who are voting Republican.
    There is no liberty candidate running this time.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Yeah, I knew about him. But I also thought I read China had been allowed to buy land next to military bases.
    I can at least confirm this is true in one instance overseas. In Kuwait, the Chinese have a small base in view of Arifjan.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    I can at least confirm this is true in one instance overseas. In Kuwait, the Chinese have a small base in view of Arifjan.
    My understanding was that it was happening in the US.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They both MADE China what it is. And the same idiots who voted for them in the 90's are backing the same political duopoly.

    Choosing between the Dems and Reps isn't even voting. They are just brands of the same corporation.
    You do realize that Ron Paul voted to give China, Most Favored Nation status, right? I didn’t agree with him on this, but I understood his reasoning.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    There is no liberty candidate running this time.
    Certainly not with the ballot access
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    You do realize that Ron Paul voted to give China, Most Favored Nation status, right? I didn’t agree with him on this, but I understood his reasoning.
    The real acceleration and approval of it all began when Ron wasn't in office. It was Bush's policy, and there were crucial votes in 1991 and 1992 when Ron wasn't in office, then Clinton pegged it to human rights, and in the late 90s when Ron got back, he did vote in 1998 not to stop it. Which isn't really the same thing as voting for it, as it was already 7 years in development. The early Nays in '91 and '92 were about 50/50 or so with Republicans which is really pretty high to go against a sitting Potus. Democrats pushed it over which is really a head scratcher. Then Clinton wiggled with it but let it continue. Ron's objection (post if otherwise) could have been about the human-rights reasons not being valid, or the dissolution of legal contracts, or some other minor point, because in 2000 a more important bill was passed to make the deal permanent which Ron voted against.

    The 2000 Bill "To Authorize Extension of Nondiscriminatory Treatment (Normal Trade Relations Treatment) to the People’s Republic of China" saw the party line flip with mostly Democrats now voting against, and Republicans for, although neither party was anywhere near all-in. So, Ron did vote against it in 2000 which shows he is not such an inflexible ideologue as some think.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    You do realize that Ron Paul voted to give China, Most Favored Nation status, right? I didn’t agree with him on this, but I understood his reasoning.
    The poisonous fruits of the toxic Free Trade tree.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Everybody keeps saying that and on many levels it's true.

    But there are advantages to not voting for the Marxists.

    Judicial appointments for instance.
    And Trump isn't an establishment RINO, he's the first one to fight back against China.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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