Is China Really Buying Up U.S. Farmland?

[PAF]

China! China! China!

I was prompted to look this up because a few folks in my area are running around screaming their heads off that China now owns more than 75% of the land in the U.S., which I found to be completely preposterous.


Also, Trumps Agenda47 is calling for...

2. Secure Strategic Independence from China
Republicans will revoke China’s Most Favored Nation status, phase out imports of essential goods, and stop China from
buying American Real Estate and Industries.

...which will of course, based on fear, cost the tax-payers who knows how much, while sidetracking us away from the real issues that we are legitimately facing.


Fear: We have much more to worry about than China buying the ENTIRE United States from us.

By Laura Strickler and Nicole Moeder
Aug. 25, 2023


State and federal lawmakers are pushing to regulate foreign ownership of U.S. real estate because of fears that Chinese entities are creating a national security risk by amassing swaths of U.S. farmland, some of it near sensitive sites.

A review by NBC News of thousands of documents filed with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, however, shows very few purchases by Chinese buyers in the past year and a half — fewer than 1,400 acres in a country with 1.3 billion acres of agricultural land. In fact, the total amount of U.S. agricultural land owned by Chinese interests is less than three-hundredths of 1%.

But the review also reveals a federal oversight system in which reporting of foreign ownership is lax and enforcement minimal.

Any foreign individual or entity that buys or leases U.S. agricultural land is required by federal law to report the transaction to the USDA within 90 days, yet some were not reported for years — in one case, more than 20 years. And in that same time period, no one has been fined more than $121,000 for failure to make such a report.

NBC News was able to review filings on foreign purchases and leases of agricultural land, meaning both farm and forestry land, from 35 states since Jan. 1, 2022. The vast majority of the transactions were European wind power companies leasing land from U.S. farmers to build wind turbines. One Italian wind company disclosed 40 new leases of farmland in just one rural Illinois county. The same company had leases in at least four other states.

In those 35 states, NBC News found 11 purchases by Chinese entities that had been reported to the USDA from Jan. 1, 2022, to June 30, 2023.

Several of the disclosures were not recent sales, and at least one was a repeat of a previous disclosure. Another was not reported to the government till it had been revealed in the media.

Smithfield Foods reported that it bought 186 acres in 2022 and 2023 in Missouri and North Carolina, adding to its existing U.S. portfolio of less than 128,000 acres, according to a company spokesman. Formerly a U.S. owned company, Smithfield Foods was bought by a Chinese firm in 2013.

“There are important issues to be addressed between the U.S. and China,” said Jim Monroe, Smithfield’s vice president of corporate affairs. “Ownership of U.S. agricultural land is not one of them.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investi...-own-rcna99274

[Snowball]

funny how they don't worry about Blackrock buying U.S. farmland...

[PAF]

funny how they don't worry about Blackrock buying U.S. farmland...

Or Bill Gates, though even he only owns a tiny smidgen.

[WarriorLiberty]

Its Not China its bill gates.

Tech Bilionirea Bill Gates Spend $113M on Nebraska Farmland

[LibertyEagle]

Hasn’t China bought land next to many of our military bases? No way in hell would we have allowed them to do that years ago. But we’re more concerned now with DEI, special rights for hyphenated Americans and making sure illegal aliens gave free healthcare, free education and in some states, voting rights. Oh, stupid deliberations on what a woman is.

[PAF]

Hasn’t China bought land next to many of our military bases? No way in hell would we have allowed them to do that years ago. But we’re more concerned now with DEI, special rights for hyphenated Americans and making sure illegal aliens gave free healthcare, free education and in some states, voting rights. Oh, stupid deliberations on what a woman is.

I do what Ron does at 8:42

[acptulsa]

I do what Ron does at 8:42

Somehow they decided Trump was different from Romney because when he flip flopped constantly he did it belligerently, on Twitter, using a third grade vocabulary.

[LibertyEagle]

Somehow they decided Trump was different from Romney because when he flip flopped constantly he did it belligerently, on Twitter, using a third grade vocabulary.

Romney was sold out to the globalist elite. I personally don’t think Trump is. And at last check, Ron Paul isn’t running. But, Commie-LA is and she has flat out said she would confiscate everyone’s guns or attempt to do so. So I am going to vote against that and her equity/inclusion communist traitor blather. But you do you.

[PAF]

Romney was sold out to the globalist elite. I personally don’t think Trump is. And at last check, Ron Paul isn’t running. But, Commie-LA is and she has flat out said she would confiscate everyone’s guns or attempt to do so. So I am going to vote against that and her equity/inclusion communist traitor blather. But you do you.

You're too caught up into that ridiculous and false left/right paradigm that the 4th branch of government shoves down your throat. I see it all of the time. The letter after the name is identical to faction over blood. Only both factions are of the same identical bird.

Someday I hope that you *feel* what liberty truly is. Only then will you understand.

[LibertyEagle]

Its Not China its bill gates.

Tech Bilionirea Bill Gates Spend $113M on Nebraska Farmland

Yeah, I knew about him. But I also thought I read China had been allowed to buy land next to military bases.

[PAF]

Yeah, I knew about him. But I also thought I read China had been allowed to buy land next to military bases.

That's why I posted the OP article - to stop the fear that the 4th branch of government is pumping down everybody's throat, so that we can focus on what really matters.

the total amount of U.S. agricultural land owned by Chinese interests is less than three-hundredths of 1%

Bill Gates owns 270,000 acres of the 1.3 Billion that there is.

[LibertyEagle]

You're too caught up into that ridiculous and false left/right paradigm that the 4th branch of government shoves down your throat. I see it all of the time. The letter after the name is identical to faction over blood. Only both factions are of the same identical bird.

Someday I hope that you *feel* what liberty truly is. Only then will you understand.

I am well aware of what is going on, but I think our country is so close to being completely enslaved. I think if Kamala gets elected, we are completely done. And I don’t think sitting it out because of ma principles is the wise move.

I grew up in a small town in a farm and ranch environment. So, I know I prefer having autonomy from government. That is what I want. But I fail to see how you think not voting is going to get us to nirvana.

[LibertyEagle]

That's why I posted the OP article - to stop the fear that the 4th branch of government is pumping down everybody's throat, so that we can focus on what really matters.



Bill Gates owns 270,000 acres of the 1.3 Billion that there is.

I know Gates owns a ton more and I detest the sob. My remark was WHERE China owned theirs. Do you know whether it is true or not if they were allowed to buy land next to military bases.

Location is the issue.

[PAF]

I am well aware of what is going on, but I think our country is so close to being completely enslaved. I think if Kamala gets elected, we are completely done. And I don’t think sitting it out because of ma principles is the wise move.

I grew up in a small town in a farm and ranch environment. So, I know I prefer having autonomy from government. That is what I want. But I fail to see how you think not voting is going to get us to nirvana.

Oh, good grief.

I don't vote because I do not consent. But that doesn't mean that I don't call BOTH sides, reps and senators, to voice my disgust with them. The problem is, when I call, I am always told "nobody else is calling about this issue, you're the only one".

Meaning, you're vote doesn't count for sh|t. If EVERYBODY called, the politicians would then feel pressure. You "voters" just don't get that.

[PAF]

I know Gates owns a ton more and I detest the sob. My remark was WHERE China owned theirs. Do you know whether it is true or not if they were allowed to buy land next to military bases.

Location is the issue.

It doesn't concern me. If it bothers you, look it up. The only reason why I posted the OP was because folks in my area were screaming their bloody heads off that China owns over 75% of the land in the U.S. and that we NEED to vote for TRUMP - which is BOGUS. IT'S FEAR PORN.

[PAF]

I mean, the least they could have done was make a number up that is more realistic, something like 2% or 3%. But over 75% of all U.S. land?

Is that how stupid people really are???

[LibertyEagle]

Oh, good grief.

I don't vote because I do not consent. But that doesn't mean that I don't call BOTH sides, reps and senators, to voice my disgust with them. The problem is, when I call, I am always told "nobody else is calling about this issue, you're the only one".

Meaning, you're vote doesn't count for sh|t. If EVERYBODY called, the politicians would then feel pressure. You "voters" just don't get that.

I don’t agree. Rand wouldn’t have gotten elected if voting didn’t work. Neither would have Thomas.

But yes, I realize that there is massive cheating, especially for President . But, just one person in each county could have gotten the voting machines thrown out. That would help. But it does require action.

You do realize that the elites are pleased as punch that you don’t vote. You may feel like you are special because you didn’t, but do you honestly think they care? It just reminds me of being really young and doing something stupid that really only harmed me and being stupid enough to think I was getting back at them by doing or not doing something. But then I get up and realized I was only hurting myself.

[LibertyEagle]

I mean, the least they could have done was make a number up that is more realistic, something like 2% or 3%. But over 75% of all U.S. land?

Is that how stupid people really are???

I don’t care if they only have an acre. If it is next to a military base, it is stupid to allow them to have that land. Location, location, location!!!

[PAF]

I don’t agree. Rand wouldn’t have gotten elected if voting didn’t work. Neither would have Thomas.

But yes, I realize that there is massive cheating, especially for President . But, just one person in each county could have gotten the voting machines thrown out. That would help. But it does require action.

You do realize that the elites are pleased as punch that you don’t vote. You may feel like you are special because you didn’t, but do you honestly think they care? It just reminds me of being really young and doing something stupid that really only harmed me and being stupid enough to think I was getting back at them by doing or not doing something. But then I get up and realized I was only hurting myself.

Ok, I'm out of this conversation. You clearly don't get it, and are more brainwashed that I initially thought.

Don't forget your "I Voted!" sticker

[LibertyEagle]

Ok, I'm out of this conversation. You clearly don't get it, and are more brainwashed that I initially thought.

Don't forget your "I Voted!" sticker

I don’t do those. I explained to you why I was voting. If you believe sitting it out is going to get us “real freedom”, then do it.

Oh, and the feelings are reciprocated, PAF. I consider you off somewhere.

[PAF]

I don’t care if they only have an acre. If it is next to a military base, it is stupid to allow them to have that land. Location, location, location!!!

Say I own 5 acres of private property, deed and all, which happens to be 4 miles away from a National Guard building. I wish to sell it for $175,000 so that I can retire down south somewhere. The Polish guy across town offers me $100,000, so I tell him he can take a flying hike. Some Chinese dude who is a farmer, or perhaps he is Italian, offers me $168,000. What business is it of government to tell me that I can't sell it to him?

[WarriorLiberty]

Yeah, I knew about him. But I also thought I read China had been allowed to buy land next to military bases.

Not even true expect nosnense from NeoCons who have fantasy of wanting to start war with China So they come up with nonsense excuses like that.


Remember the lies they sold of WMDs in Iraq?



When you have Bill Gates who wants to buy the farms for his whatever.

[LibertyEagle]

Say I own 5 acres of private property, deed and all, which happens to be 4 miles away from a National Guard building. I wish to sell it for $175,000 so that I can retire down south somewhere. The Polish guy across town offers me $100,000, so I tell him he can take a flying hike. Some Chinese dude who is a farmer, or perhaps he is Italian, offers me $168,000. What business is it of government to tell me that I can't sell it to him?

If your land is next to a military base, and he is not an American citizen, it used to would have been considered an issue of national security and for once, I would have agreed with them.

[PAF]

If your land is next to a military base, and bhe is not an American citizen, it used to would have been considered an issue of national hsecurity and for once, I would have agreed with them.

So my Private Property Rights are up to you now, and/or politicians/government? For the betterment of all?

See ya around the forums, "LibertyEagle", I need a break

[LibertyEagle]

Not even true expect nosnense from NeoCons who have fantasy of wanting to start war with China So they come up with nonsense excuses like that.


Remember the lies they sold of WMDs in Iraq?



When you have Bill Gates who wants to buy the farms for his whatever.

Name the countries that would allow foreigners to buy land next to their military bases.

That said, if our military wasn’t all over the damn world overthrowing and occupying so very many countries, it probably wouldn’t be so serious. Still stupid, yes, but not such an immediate threat. Do you see our government pushing Russia and China together, are you watching BRICS, if China makes a move on Taiwan and our military stops them, do you want China right next to our military bases? Especially considering a whole lot of fighting age Chinese have come into our country illegally as of late. And our military seems more interested in their pronouns, DEI and whether someone misgendered them, than they appear mentally and physically fit to defend our own country. So hell no, I don’t want illegal aliens from anywhere in our country; much less next to our military bases. Why? Because I am not stupid as all hell.

[PAF]

Name the countries that would allow foreigners to buy land next to their military bases.

Right outside the fenced in area down in Mexico, where I considered buying, but it was not close enough to a Lowe's for me so I didn't do it.

[LibertyEagle]

So my Private Property Rights are up to you now, and/or politicians/government? For the betterment of all?

See ya around the forums, "LibertyEagle", I need a break

Nope. What it means is i wouldn’t think it wise to buy land next to a military base, if you are wanting to sell it to an ILLEGAL alien.

Sheesh, I can’t believe we are even having this ridiculous conversation!!

[WarriorLiberty]

Name the countries that would allow foreigners to buy land next to their military bases.

That said, if our military wasn’t all over the damn world overthrowing and occupying so very many countries, it probably wouldn’t be so serious. Still stupid, yes, but not such an immediate threat. Do you see our government pushing Russia and China together, are you watching BRICS, if China makes a move on Taiwan and our military stops them, do you want China right next to our military bases? Especially considering a whole lot of fighting age Chinese have come into our country illegally as of late. And our military seems more interested in their pronouns, DEI and whether someone misgendered them, than they appear mentally and physically fit to defend our own country. So hell no, I don’t want illegal aliens from anywhere in our country; much less next to our military bases. Why? Because I am not stupid as all hell.

And our military seems more interested in their pronouns, DEI

China isnt the one pushing this ESG/DEI nonsense.

Do you see our government pushing Russia and China together, are you watching BRICS, if China makes a

Maybe the US govt and "the powers that be" should have stopped expanding in Eastern Europe and near Russian Borders? otherwise.

Russia would have not moved closer with China.

You have the "the powers that be" trying to stir problems in the Balkans.
Opening old wounds in the region.


Maybe trying to provoke Russia wasn't such a "Good investment"

[Swordsmyth]

The pretense that China is not an enemy of America and liberty has long grown so threadbare that everyone sees through it.
Are there also other enemies? of course, but that's not an excuse to pretend that interdependence with one of the worst tyrannies and one of the greatest builders of global government is not a problem.

We must completely decouple from China and remove them from our country.

It's clear what those who gaslight us about China want, they want CCP style tyranny and global government.

[Swordsmyth]

China isnt the one pushing this ESG/DEI nonsense.

Yes they are, and they are in bed with the others who do.