[Will vote Trump now] Kyle Rittenhouse announces he will write in Ron Paul and not vote Trump

[PAF]

Wanting our country to completely fall reminds me of what i thought when some here wanted open borders.

They used to call people who unknowingly and some knowingly, did things to assist those wanting to bring down our country as “useful idiots”. Historically, these people were the first ones offed under the new regime. The term came from the regime doing the toppling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

The Bill of Rights was well-intended but didn't go far enough. There is nothing in them that holds those accountable for violating the rights of others. It also doesn't mention the right to freely travel as long as one does not violate private property.

The rest of the constitution is simply a transfer of rights and power from self to others.

Those arbitrary lines that you cling to represent where governments/countries begin and end. I was not aware the "Land of Liberty"'s lines meant emulating other countries, which American's themselves are so intent in doing.

[LibertyEagle]

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1819515623442939963

Absolutely agreed!

[LibertyEagle]

The Bill of Rights was well-intended but didn't go far enough. There is nothing in them that holds those accountable for violating the rights of others. It also doesn't mention the right to freely travel as long as one does not violate private property.

The rest of the constitution is simply a transfer of rights and power from self to others.

Those arbitrary lines that you cling to represent where governments/countries begin and end. I was not aware the "Land of Liberty"'s lines meant emulating other countries, which American's themselves are so intent in doing.

The Constitution isn’t perfect, but it is the best that any nation has come up with. Because of it, you are still able to mouth off.

Once upon a time, countries were a way for people who wanted to live by certain principles, could gather together. Borders are lines of demarcation between countries, who want to live with different principles.

Before you say you didn’t agree to follow those principles, someone in your ancestry did. So, you can take it up with them.

[PAF]

The Constitution isn’t perfect, but it is the best that any nation has come up with. Because of it, you are still able to mouth off.

Once upon a time, countries were a way for people who wanted to live by certain principles, could gather together. Borders are lines of demarcation between countries, who want to live with different principles.

Before you say you didn’t agree to follow those principles, someone in your ancestry did. So, you can take it up with them.

People are born where they are born and have no control over that. Some simply want to migrate where they have better opportunities and/or feel their principles are more inline. Such as mine, for example, when my ancestry came over well after the constitution was ratified, because the idea of liberty and prosperity was important to them. It was my grandfather who started the first electric company in the town that I was born.

It is government, lobbyists and those in power on both sides of the isle who take advantage and legislate anti-liberty laws for profit. Without principles, folks like you many of the people fall for the trap and wonder what what happened to this country. I assure you it is not "invaders", but the ones responsible for the exploitation, which in turn count on people, both left and right factions, who support more anti-liberty laws.

[LibertyEagle]

People are born where they are born and have no control over that. Some simply want to migrate where they have better opportunities and/or feel their principles are more inline. Such as mine, for example, when my ancestry came over well after the constitution was ratified, because the idea of liberty and prosperity was important to them. It was my grandfather who started the first electric company in the town that I was born.

It is government, lobbyists and those in power on both sides of the isle who take advantage and legislate anti-liberty laws for profit. Without principles, folks like you many of the people fall for the trap and wonder what what happened to this country. I assure you it is not "invaders", but the ones responsible for the exploitation, which in turn count on people, both left and right factions, who support more anti-liberty laws.

I think all, or the overwhelming majority, of us on this forum are here because we don’t like what those occupying our government have been up to. For most, that is why we supported Ron Paul. That is not the same thing as what you seem to want, which appears to be aligned very closely to what the globalists are actually doing to bring down our country.

And yes, allowing our borders to be illegally overrun by a massive number of illegal aliens is a very real step by the globalists to bring us down. You do realize we have legal immigration, at rates such that they can assimilate into our culture vs the other way around. I think what Ted Kennedy did to our immigration laws kicked this off, actually, by changing which countries were allowed to immigrate. Because with that change, there no longer seemed to be any focus on whether the people’s culture would meld into ours. For reference, check what is going on in the UK.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to want the country to fall. Ron Paul never wanted that, so why is it that you supported him?

[PAF]

I think all, or the overwhelming majority, of us on this forum are here because we don’t like what those occupying our government have been up to. For most, that is why we supported Ron Paul. That is not the same thing as what you seem to want, which appears to be aligned very closely to what the globalists are actually doing to bring down our country.

And yes, allowing our borders to be illegally overrun by a massive number of illegal aliens is a very real step by the globalists to bring us down. You do realize we have legal immigration, at rates such that they can assimilate into our culture vs the other way around. I think what Ted Kennedy did to our immigration laws kicked this off, actually, by changing which countries were allowed to immigrate. Because with that change, there no longer seemed to be any focus on whether the people’s culture would meld into ours. For reference, check what is going on in the UK.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to want the country to fall. Ron Paul never wanted that, so why is it that you supported him?

https://mises.org/

There's even a Free Book offer written by Rothbard to help entice you to visit there ;-)

[LibertyEagle]

https://mises.org/

There's even a Free Book offer written by Rothbard to help entice you to visit there ;-)

I met Rothbard, more than once. Have you?

[PAF]

I met Rothbard, more than once. Have you?

Oh, I have a ton-load of photos that would fill volumes where I sit with Ron Paul, Tom Massie, Lew Rockwell, Dan McAdams, who I see at least once or twice a year over the past couple decades, and many, many others too. In fact, they've sat with me.

But with me it's not a photo/other contest. It's about principles, fiscal responsibility, and reaching others to get them to understand that politicians/government is not the answer. Simply put, the answer is for the People to actually become principled.

I guess in response to your post, how can you possibly support Trump if you've met Rothbard more than once? I'm really scratching my head on that one. Even Ron Paul said "Trump isn't my favorite president", and he was trying to be as humanly nice as one possibly could.

[LibertyEagle]

When I was born, the Regime was We, the People. Then a month later, Herbie Bush and the Spooks performed their number...

Yes, both Bush’s sucked. I didn’t support either. But, what is going on has been going on long before the Bush’s. They did however put the pedal to the metal after 9-11. The globalists had written that they planned to have it all wrapped up by the year 2000. But, enough got in their way. They have been making up for time lost after 9-11.

What do you suppose We, the People would call our useful idiots? Do we have any, or do all idiots favor the Regime?

Show me your plan. All I have seen you support is Johnson/Weld, with Weld being the co-chair of the CFR task force to put the US into a North American Union with Canada and Mexico. And recently, you have argued for voting for RFK, Jr.

Wouldn't it be good to find out, instead of submitting to Pick From The Two Worst Presidents In History -- and if you want the lesser evil, we'll trade you that for the Constitution?

I am not sure I understand you here. Is this you pitching RFK, Jr? Please explain.

[PAF]

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The gradual decline. Both Bush's, 3 terms, now Trump, potentially twice. Good grief.

Concerning RFK Jr., have you read this? Attended a Meetup

[LibertyEagle]

Oh, I have a ton-load of photos that would fill volumes where I sit with Ron Paul, Tom Massie, Lew Rockwell, Dan McAdams, who I see at least once or twice a year over the past couple decades, and many, many others too. In fact, they've sat with me.

But with me it's not a photo/other contest. It's about principles, fiscal responsibility, and reaching others to get them to understand that politicians/government is not the answer. Simply put, the answer is for the People to actually become principled.

I guess in response to your post, how can you possibly support Trump if you've met Rothbard more than once? I'm really scratching my head on that one. Even Ron Paul said "Trump isn't my favorite president", and he was trying to be as humanly nice as one possibly could.

It is easy. I didn’t agree with where Rothbard went after he got frustrated with politics. Once upon a time, he worked hard for Pat Buchanan. Ron Paul must not have been where Rothbard was either, or he never would have run for Congress.

I know you believe being an anarcho-capitalist is the best way, but not all of us agree.

There is also this. I don’t agree that if our country falls, that we are going to be able to rise from the ashes like Dumbledore’s phoenix. We will be in world communism, world kleptocracy, or whatever name you want to give it.

And you seem to have no plan to avert that.

[PAF]

It is easy. I didn’t agree with where Rothbard went after he got frustrated with politics. Once upon a time, he worked hard for Pat Buchanan. Ron Paul must not have been where Rothbard was either, or he never would have run for Congress.

I know you believe being an anarcho-capitalist is the best way, but not all of us agree.

The last time Ron Paul and I were checking in to the hotel together I ran into Tom Massie in the hall. I had my Anarchy t-shirt on, Tom pointed to it and said "THAT is what it needs to come down to!". And Ron smiled in agreement. I actually have a short cell-phone video of that one, along with some pics ;-)

"LibertyEagle" [yes I quoted that lol], maybe you need to get out more. Or better yet, if you're in the area and like hot-wings, stop by one of my Liberty Group Meetings and we can hash it out ;-)

[LibertyEagle]

Yes, it very well may need to come to that. I already told you I think the federal government is too far gone to save. Which is also likely what Massie and Ron think. That doesn’t mean that I want to rush the fall and clearly Massie doesn’t either, or he wouldn’t be in government.

And “PAF”, as far as going to more libertarian discussions, I think accomplishing anything is going to require more than preaching to the choir. But, that’s just my opinion.

[Swordsmyth]

The gradual decline. Both Bush's, 3 terms, now Trump, potentially twice. Good grief.

Concerning RFK Jr., have you read this? Attended a Meetup

RFKommie is as bad or worse than Camela.
Your endorsement of him is the clearest indication of your true intentions.

[acptulsa]

Yes, both Bush’s sucked. I didn’t support either. But, what is going on has been going on long before the Bush’s.

I wasn't talking about what he did in 1989, or 1990, '91 or '92. I'm talking about what he did in Dealey Plaza.

Show me your plan.

I am not sure I understand you here. Is this you pitching RFK, Jr? Please explain.

I've told you. And told you. And told you again. And told you.

You obviously don't want to understand. But the least I can do for you is to try to fix it so you don't have to ask me the same question over and over and over again for another decade or two. I can but try. So, here goes nothing.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

Now. Just so you have to stop pretending like I haven't told you this dozens of times...

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

... there's another half dozen. Americans are so brainwashed into thinking the so-called "two party system" is some kind of designed and mandated necessity that you people can hear that over and over for decades and still say, what was the idea again? It doesn't register. It's incredible. It doesn't even make sense to y'all. It's like, oh, they don't count votes outside the Two Parties, they just throw them away. So it doesn't even sink in. Couldn't be the plan so you don't bother to remember it's the plan.

Got bad news for you. According to your worldview, they don't count GOP votes any more either. So what makes your clowns better than mine now?

[PAF]

RFKommie is as bad or worse than Camela.
Your endorsement of him is the clearest indication of your true intentions.

"Endorsement"? You need to get your facts straight.

[LibertyEagle]

I wasn't talking about what he did in 1989, or 1990, '91 or '92. I'm talking about what he did in Dealey Plaza.



I've told you. And told you. And told you again. And told you.

You obviously don't want to understand. But the least I can do for you is to try to fix it so you don't have to ask me the same question over and over and over again for another decade or two. I can but try. So, here goes nothing.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

Now. Just so you have to stop pretending like I haven't told you this dozens of times...

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

If we demand a president who is neither the Demopublican nor the Republicrat nominee, that will be demanding our right to a peaceable coup d'etat as described in the Constitution. This will be the push that causes the shove, and instead of doing the lesser weevil kick the can down the road delaying tactic that got us in this mess, we can kick these psychos out.

... there's another half dozen. Americans are so brainwashed into thinking the so-called "two party system" is some kind of designed and mandated necessity that you people can hear that over and over for decades and still say, what was the idea again? It doesn't register. It's incredible. It doesn't even make sense to y'all. It's like, oh, they don't count votes outside the Two Parties, they just throw them away. So it doesn't even sink in. Couldn't be the plan so you don't bother to remember it's the plan.

Got bad news for you. According to your worldview, they don't count GOP votes any more either. So what makes your clowns better than mine now?

Please give your pomposity a rest. You have strongly advocated for a world government lieutenant in Weld and what apparently became his bosom buddy, Johnson and now your god is RFK, Jr. You have the right to support anyone you want to, but seriously….

I am not against voting for a third party. I have done it at least 2 times for President. But, not this time, and not RFK, Jr. Bernie Sanders was an Independent a lot of the time, and I wouldn’t vote for him, either.

Be honest. You would be supporting RFK, Jr. REGARDLESS of what party, or lack thereof, he was running in.

Oh, and I do not share your adoration of JFK. It was a horrible coup to assassinate him, but he was a lousy President. Just to name a couple of things, Bay of Pigs and his plan to disarm our military and turn it over to the UN https://famguardian.org/Subjects/Gun...t-pub-7277.pdf

[PAF]

@LibertyEagle

Maybe to stand on principle, NOT voting would be the rightful course of action, so as not to give your Consent to anti-liberty and pro-government-growth "solutions". Nothing says that you still can't call reps and senators when bills arise and tell them No.

[Occam's Banana]

CLIP from Part of the Problem #1152:

Dave Smith | Clint Russell | Is Kyle Rittenhouse An American Hero?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY8KYjUHQ5I
{Dave Smith Clips | 06 August 2024}

Dave Smith and Clint Russell discuss the Kyle Rittenhouse incident and fallout.

[Swordsmyth]

@LibertyEagle

Maybe to stand on principle, NOT voting would be the rightful course of action, so as not to give your Consent to anti-liberty and pro-government-growth "solutions". Nothing says that you still can't call reps and senators when bills arise and tell them No.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
You are the foremost advocate of good men doing nothing on this website...

[acptulsa]

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
You are the foremost advocate of good men doing nothing on this website...

Voting for someone who has proven for four years that he either can't figure out how to fix what's broken, or just won't do it, is doing something?

Autistically screeching at someone who wants to try something that hasn't failed already is doing something?

[Swordsmyth]

Voting for someone who has proven for four years that he either can't figure out how to fix what's broken, or just won't do it, is doing something?

Autistically screeching at someone who wants to try something that hasn't failed already is doing something?

Trump did more good than any other President in living memory, and will be able to do even more now.
And at the very least he will stop many bad things from being done.
Not voting for Trump is voting for letting Dark Brandon's handlers finish turning us into Venezuela, and you and all the others know it.

[acptulsa]

Trump did more good than any other President in living memory...

Everybody says so. Raytheon. Pfizer. Chase. Lockheed Martin. Moderna. Bank of America...

It's unanimous! Every global conglomerate says so!

Not voting for Trump is voting for letting Dark Brandon's handlers finish turning us into Venezuela, and you and all the others know it.

Only because most voters are stupid enough to think the Constitution forbids a non-Demopublican from holding the presidency. And you and all the other totalitarians are counting on it.

[Swordsmyth]

Everybody says so. Raytheon. Pfizer. Chase. Lockheed Martin. Moderna. Bank of America...

It's unanimous! Every global conglomerate says so!

LOL

They hated him, that's why they stole the 2020 election and just tried to kill him.

[acptulsa]

LOL

They hated him, that's why they stole the 2020 election and just tried to kill him.

They hate him enough to give him constant free publicity 24/7 for nine years.

They clearly loved Ron Paul, then, because they surely didn't treat him like that.

[Swordsmyth]

They hate him enough to give him constant free publicity 24/7 for nine years.

They clearly loved Ron Paul, then, because they surely didn't treat him like that.

Trump was a national celebrity, it was impossible not to cover him, and they initially thought he would be the best opponent to get Hitlery elected.
Later they had no choice because they had legitimized him as a candidate.

Ron Paul was a little known House Rep who would obviously be competitive if he won the nomination, it was easy to just dismiss and ignore him while propping up McCain and Romney.

Your spin is weak.

[acptulsa]

Trump was a national celebrity, it was impossible not to cover him...

RFKJr is a freaking Kennedy, but they're managing with him.

Your spin is weak.

Yours is hilarious.

[Swordsmyth]

RFKJr is a freaking Kennedy, but they're managing with him.

LOL

He personally is a nobody, and yet they still manage to give him publicity to try to steal votes from Trump and set up a narrative for vote fraud to transfer Trump votes to him so it's not as obvious as transferring them to Kamala.

[acptulsa]

He personally is a nobody...

A lawyer who fought both multinationals and government to help people who were being victimized. Vs. a Manhattan landlord who has been publicized since the eighties, more than any other Manhattan landlord, ever since he started hanging around with a guy named Epstein, and was given his tv show by someone.

People don't get publicity because they're already celebrities, Einstein, they become celebrities because they're given publicity.

[Swordsmyth]

A lawyer who fought both multinationals and government to help people who were being victimized. Vs. a Manhattan landlord who has been publicized since the eighties, more than any other Manhattan landlord, ever since he started hanging around with a guy named Epstein, and was given his tv show by someone.

People don't get publicity because they're already celebrities, Einstein, they become celebrities because they're given publicity.

Yes, RFK is just as much a nobody as a Random House member like Ron.

Trump was a national icon and household name before he became a big TV star.
Trump was already a celebrity because he already got publicity, I never said he became a celebrity when he ran for office, I said he already was one.
They thought he was part of their crowd and would throw the election for Hitlery, once he showed he was in it to win it and then began fighting against them more than any other candidate who had a chance and then President had in living memory it was too late and all they could do was try to destroy him.

Nobody cares about RFK so he can be given exactly as much publicity as they want, and they are giving him far more than Ron in order to help stop Trump and facilitate fraud, which is also exactly why he is running.