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Thread: [Will vote Trump now] Kyle Rittenhouse announces he will write in Ron Paul and not vote Trump

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    Give me a break from your uniparty gaslighting. You know how the one time LP candidate for president feels about the "a vote for C is a vote for X because two party system you'll throw your vote away" poppycock. So give me a damned break already. Please. A break. I need it.

    Sixty years of that utter stupidity landed the nation I love in the toilet, and I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear it tonight.
    ...Yet he ran as a Republican...

    If he won the primary, would he go out and tell people it doesn't matter who you vote for, because both parties are the same?

    The only one gaslighting here is you..

    In all the other elections, probably since Reagan, it didn't really matter who won.

    Until Trump came along.. then it mattered. He made a difference. He made mistakes. But he was better than the alternative.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Writing in Ron Paul is a much better idea than voting for Trump.
    Depends how many people you are talking about and in which state.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump
    Sucker.

    Go mind your missiles with holographic wings and your nuked bees.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sucker.

    Go mind your missiles with holographic wings and your nuked bees.
    I noticed you didn't answer the question of whether Ron Paul would have told people it didn't matter if you voted R or D if he had won the primary.

    How close to Ron Paul does a candidate have to be before voting for R or D matters? What if they agree with him on everything except for one issue, like, for example, Ron Paul wants to eliminate 12 federal agencies, but the other candidate only wants to eliminate 11, and the 12th is the department of lettuce, whose sole function is to ensure that lettuce isn't sprayed with Hydroxypalitepitenatic Acid? Does it matter if you vote R or D? Or was Ron Paul referring to Romney vs. Obama in that speech?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post

    Until Trump came along.. then it mattered. He made a difference. He made mistakes. But he was better than the alternative.

    It really is worth the read:

    Donald Trump On The Record

    But don't let me wake you up out of your fantasy-dream if that's where you're happy.
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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I noticed you didn't answer the question of whether Ron Paul would have told people it didn't matter if you voted R or D if he had won the primary.

    How close to Ron Paul does a candidate have to be before voting for R or D matters?
    I'm tired of talking to you. I've been telling you that "how close to Ron Paul" (or however you celebrity worshippers describe policy positions combined with backbone) is everything to me and party is nothing. Fake belligerence is nothing to me, a bully style and a third grade vocabulary is nothing to me, and party is even less, like I've told you ten thousand times already. No capital letter has ever dissuaded me from voting for an honest person and none has ever persuaded me to vote for a crook like Trump. It always goes in one of your ears and out the other. Always. So bug off.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-02-2024 at 07:59 PM.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm tired of talking to you. I've been telling you that "how close to Ron Paul" (or however you celebrity worshippers describe policy positions combined with backbone) is everything to me and party is nothing. Fake belligerence is nothing to me and party is even less, like I've told you ten thousand times already. It always goes in one of your ears and out the other. So bug off.
    He's the precise reason why this country is the way that it is. They can't help it, anymore than the woman who comes to our liberty group meetings who actually believes that Obama and Biden were at the WH during Trump's term and used AI and voice over tech to make it sound and look like Trump said and did those things.

    They truly belong in a ward.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-02-2024 at 08:06 PM.
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  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    He's the precise reason why this country is the way that it is.
    Being unable or unwilling to understand my reasoning is one thing. Forgetting that I've already tried 10,000 times before, and the 10,001st time is highly unlikely to screw in his light bulb, is something else.

    The country is sliding down the slippery slope into the abyss and these people can't imagine a single damned thing to do about it except measure Harris' and Trump's thighs and try to decide which one might press the brake pedal a teensy bit harder if they were to ever step off the throttle.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-02-2024 at 08:19 PM.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Being unable or unwilling to understand my reasoning is one thing. Forgetting that I've already tried 10,000 times before, and the 10,001st time is highly unlikely to screw in his light bulb, is something else.

    The country is sliding down the slippery slope into the abyss and these people can't imagine a single damned thing to do about it except measure Harris' and Trump's thighs and try to decide which one might press the brake pedal a teensy bit harder if they were to ever step off the throttle.
    I felt that we had some momentum back in '12 even among disgusting hanky-panky Team Mitt was doing. Ever since then it isn't the same and now many on this forum are reminiscent of Team Mitt now Trump. It's always the left-wing libs that they flock around.
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  12. #70
    And it's not so much being left-wing, it's more that they don't understand sound money, endless spending and the deterioration of our basic natural rights. In fact, they advocate that.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    This is why:



    https://twitter.com/dudleywbrown/sta...41268108579082
    Page/post doesn't exist.

    I hope these "productive conversations" with the Trump team were two-way, and Kyle told the members of Trump's team what a douchebag Trump can be when it comes to the 2A.

    Somebody like me wouldn't have that kind of influence, but if they were worried enough about Kyle refusing to endorse Trump, I hope he at least told them why.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

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    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/ThisIsKyleR/status/1819240397958160566

    AF, he backed off of that and totally reversed on this.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    AF, he backed off of that and totally reversed on this.
    Yeah, I know, everything's been scrubbed.

    I will petition the mods for a headline change.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm tired of talking to you. I've been telling you that "how close to Ron Paul" (or however you celebrity worshippers describe policy positions combined with backbone) is everything to me and party is nothing. Fake belligerence is nothing to me, a bully style and a third grade vocabulary is nothing to me, and party is even less, like I've told you ten thousand times already. No capital letter has ever dissuaded me from voting for an honest person and none has ever persuaded me to vote for a crook like Trump. It always goes in one of your ears and out the other. Always. So bug off.
    I don't care if the person is a bully or not a bully, if they make mean tweets, what their vocabulary is, what party they are or anything else. I care about results. Rubio vs. RFK Jr, I'm going RFK Jr all day. The question is does this person give us more liberty or less liberty compared to the other option? Does this person help move us toward peace or toward war? With Obama and Romney/McCain, there was no clear way of knowing. With Trump, we've already seen the results.

    This is the bully we need.



    https://x.com/loganclarkhall/status/1692581337276858373
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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  19. #76

    Unhappy

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Of course he is a "liberal" in the old school sense like Tip O'Neill or Ronald Reagan before he switched parties.

    The Overton window has been shoved left so hard it's now a parallelogram

    You do not vote and you do not believe in any of this, so it's hard for me to fathom why you even care...it would be like me memorizing baseball statistics.

    But the fact remains: if you are going to bother to vote, the choice is a northeast liberal, another northeast liberal or a California Communist.
    He cares because he wants to turn us into Venezuela.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    At this point, it's all nails and no coffin.
    Naglfar
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  21. #78
    Back when Rand Paul was running for POTUS, he was not pure enough for many.

  22. #79
    LOL didn't he say something to the effect of "I'm not gonna change my mind" and then not even 5 minutes later he does a complete 180?

    That dude changes his mind faster than he shoots 3 different people in same day
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  23. #80
    The insane and over the top reaction to Kyle by the MAGAs is only outmatched by the insane and over the top reaction of the TDS lolbertarians. The difference is that the former is actually politically relevant and the latter would rather spend his time arguing online than doing anything productive.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    LOL didn't he say something to the effect of "I'm not gonna change my mind" and then not even 5 minutes later he does a complete 180?

    That dude changes his mind faster than he shoots 3 different people in same day
    He's a dumb kid who was deceived by DeStatus operatives.
    Cut him some slack, he should be commended for not clinging to a stupid and counterproductive position and being willing to listen to the other side.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  26. #82
    Dumb kid.
    Commendable.
    Hmm. Depends on the topic and whether you agree or not.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Dumb kid.
    Commendable.
    Hmm. Depends on the topic and whether you agree or not.
    Guns aren't going anywhere if the owners stand their ground. That kid seems to be, well, a kid, because he's a single issue voter and obviously hasn't seen the record of how much destruction the previous POTUS caused. As I quite often repeat, it all comes down to money.
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Naglfar
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnIu3o3sRtU

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No worries, AF, it's just another incentive to stay under the radar, live off the grid as best you can, and keep those bike wheels spinning ;-)


    You're gonna be like, "why didn't I become an anarchist sooner?!"
    Wanting our country to completely fall reminds me of what i thought when some here wanted open borders.

    They used to call people who unknowingly and some knowingly, did things to assist those wanting to bring down our country as “useful idiots”. Historically, these people were the first ones offed under the new regime. The term came from the regime doing the toppling.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 08-03-2024 at 01:06 PM.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Historically, these people were the first ones offed under the new regime. The term came from the regime doing the toppling.
    When I was born, the Regime was We, the People. Then a month later, Herbie Bush and the Spooks performed their number...

    What do you suppose We, the People would call our useful idiots? Do we have any, or do all idiots favor the Regime? Wouldn't it be good to find out, instead of submitting to Pick From The Two Worst Presidents In History -- and if you want the lesser evil, we'll trade you that for the Constitution?

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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    That's how I felt about it.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    LOL didn't he say something to the effect of "I'm not gonna change my mind" and then not even 5 minutes later he does a complete 180?

    That dude changes his mind faster than he shoots 3 different people in same day
    He's a young kid so it's not surprising that he can be easily manipulated.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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