I live in Florida. I can confirm this, the Cubans and Hispanics around here seem to be for Trump. It's totally normal to see working class hispanic guys with Trump flags and stickers on their trucks. Older black people here seen to like him as well.Originally Posted by Todd
History of terms used to describe the African American
The terms used to describe African Americans have evolved significantly over time, reflecting changes in societal attitudes, political contexts, and cultural self-perception. Here’s a brief overview of the history and evolution of these terms:
### 1. **African** (Early 17th Century)
- **"African"**: The earliest term used to describe people of African descent in the American colonies. This term was used to describe individuals who were brought to America from Africa through the transatlantic slave trade.
### 2. **Negro** (17th to Mid-20th Century)
- **"Negro"**: This term was commonly used from the 17th century through the mid-20th century. It was derived from the Spanish and Portuguese word for black, "negro," and was used in both formal and informal contexts. It was the standard term used in documents, literature, and speech.
### 3. **Colored** (Late 19th to Mid-20th Century)
- **"Colored"**: This term was used in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was adopted by organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), founded in 1909. It was a common term but fell out of favor due to its association with segregation and discriminatory practices.
### 4. **Black** (Mid-20th Century to Present)
- **"Black"**: Gained prominence during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. It was embraced as a term of empowerment and solidarity, reflecting a growing sense of pride and identity among African Americans. The term "Black" also encompasses cultural and historical connections to Africa.
### 5. **Afro-American** (1960s-1980s)
- **"Afro-American"**: Used particularly in the 1960s and 1970s as a way to emphasize the connection to African heritage. It was commonly used in academic and cultural contexts but gradually fell out of favor.
### 6. **African American** (1980s-Present)
- **"African American"**: Became widely accepted and preferred in the 1980s. It reflects a dual heritage of African ancestry and American citizenship. This term is used in formal contexts, including official documents and academic writing, and is seen as respectful and inclusive.
### 7. **People of Color** (Late 20th Century-Present)
- **"People of Color"**: While not exclusive to African Americans, this term is used to describe individuals who are not white and encompasses a broad range of racial and ethnic identities. It is often used in discussions about race and social justice.
### 8. **Black American** (Contemporary Usage)
- **"Black American"**: Used interchangeably with "African American" in contemporary contexts. It emphasizes the American aspect of identity while acknowledging the African roots.
### 9. **BIPOC** (Late 2010s-Present)
- **"BIPOC"**: Stands for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color. It is used to recognize the specific experiences of Black and Indigenous people while also including other people of color in discussions about racial justice.
### 10. **Other Context-Specific Terms**
- **"Diasporic" Terms**: In specific contexts, terms reflecting the African diaspora or cultural heritage might be used, such as "African Caribbean" or "African British."
The evolution of these terms reflects shifts in societal attitudes and the ongoing efforts of African Americans and their allies to assert identity, dignity, and political power.
Blackness divorced from African-ness is a reality for some Melanesian Pacific Islanders.
https://www.allure.com/story/melanesian-women-on-colorism
Some Dark Skinned People want to be referred to as Black.
Some Dark Skinned People do not want to be referred to as Black.
You better know before you say anything especially in the USA.
Who knows it might be hormonal too. Maybe it is fluid and one day this next day that....
Only thing that is consistent is Orange Man Bad.
I didn't hear that speech.
Did Trump bring up creating economic freedom zones, address captured agencies and lobbyists, how he plans to eliminate the $8+T amassed during his administration, why presidents pardon convicted criminals, or ending the Tariff War contest between he and Biden?
Just curious, because those are things that interest me. Not the color of skin because somebody happened to be born in a desert, or over-tanned while on Spring Break.
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You didn't watch it? Yes he addressed all those things. He is brilliant and has an awesome plan! The Best and Greatest recovery plan in History.
Ok you convinced me to watch it lol.
Here's what I got: EVERYTHING IS BIDEN'S FAULT!
Trump still hasn't brought up the fact that if NGO's are DEFUNDED things will return to normal and without his Anti-BoR federalized police-state expansion.
I've tried many times, but I can't picture myself giving Kamala or Hillary any money whatsoeverThough Donald Trump has a history of derisive comments about Harris since taking office, political contribution data, reviewed by USA TODAY on the California Secretary of State website show he gave $5,000 to Harris during her first bid for attorney general in 2011 and $1,000 in 2013 during her reelection. Ivanka Trump contributed $2,000 in 2014 for Harris' reelection campaign.
Can you believe it?” Trump said while campaigning in 2016. “I’ve given to Democrats. I’ve given to Hillary. I’ve given to everybody!"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...a/74493046007/
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The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
If you want to claim that the left is obsessed with race and identity politics, maybe don't act even more obsessed with it than they are
LOL.
Adjust your sarcasm meter.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.
this is the type $#@! that if he keeps doing is going to not end well for his campaign. He gets sucked into this racist tripe and falls for it every time. His mouth is his own worst enemy. Even if everything he said is spot on, he doesn't sound even one iota eloquent when saying it and it's just downright ignorant.
If you want the black vote talk about what you are going to do to earn it and deflect the belief among minorities that you are a racist.
The wisdom of Swordy:
On bringing the troops home
On fighting corruption:
Fascism Defined
It works for everything. And his fans couldn't figure out what a brilliant 3D chess move it was to put drunken monkey 9iu11ani in charge of his election challenge in 2020! What better way to springboard to a second term than to enable a senile pedophile to purposely destroy the country for the four years in between?
Saves you from having to run on your own miserable record.
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Her father's side is totally Afro-Jamaican except for a smidgen of Irish and Anglo-Irish. It comes out to her being 1/32nd Irish and 1/32nd Anglo-Irish.
That's from Patrick Finegan (half-Irish, half Black great-great-grandfather), and George Hamilton Brown (known as Hamilton Brown Jr.), Anglo-Irish great-great-great-great grandfather. This means she is 50% - 1/16th, or 7/16ths Black or 43.75% She's Black enough to be called Black and she lived in a Black neighborhood and was thought of as Black by people all her life.
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"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
Yup
She’s Black & Indian & a little white
Disconnect from any alt media lying to you on this issue
Peace
Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 08-01-2024 at 02:54 PM.
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Did Trump say she was not Black?
It's quite possible Trump did think she was Indian from when he first became aware of her. Maybe Willie bragged to him about his Indian friend at the time...
Kamala has been in politics a long time. When she first started working for the DAs office in Alameda Co, no one really cared about her race. That was at a time when people in California truly were "color-blind". MLK's dream had been achieved. Now some who knew her at the time might have called her a bit of a bit*h, but nothing about her race. She was mainly famous for being Willie Brown's mistress.
Now if people saw her mom and sister, they did assume she was Indian. It wasn't a big deal. It became a deal when she ran for Senator, and her PR was that she was Indian, and the first Indian American Senator. No doubt this was done to appeal to voters in the Bay Area, who were increasingly Indian, but also to be able to claim a "first". Carol Moseley Braun had beat her to the Senate as the first African American woman elected.
Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 08-01-2024 at 03:49 PM.
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"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
So you were a friend or neighbor of Kamala as a child?
Did you know she was bussed to the majority white elementary school in Berkeley from kindergarten till 12 yo, and then moved to Canada through the end of High School?
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Not in so many words. Trump rarely says anything outright. More like, I seem to remember so-and-so saying that in reality...
Harris childhood friend talks about their neighborhood. Black mayor. Near public housing. Very diverse.
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/29/nx-s1...ood-shaped-her
This 1970s Berkeley Black cultural center shaped Kamala Harris
https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/08...-kamala-harris
Her school wasn't a choice..
In 1970, when Kamala Harris was in first grade, she was part of an effort to desegregate Berkeley, Calif., schools using busing.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...y-students-bu/
“I only learned later that we were part of a national experiment in desegregation with working-class black children from the flatlands being bused in one direction and wealthier white children from the Berkeley hills bused in the other,” Harris writes in her new memoir “The Truths We Hold: An American Journey.”
Then, after her time in Montreal because of her mother's job (1978-1981), she went to a historically Black college, Howard in D.C.
I don't know why we're talking about this other than Trump's pathetic attempt to unBlack her. It was sad and asinine.
He even said SHE doesn't respect Blacks. It was a humiliation. Neither of us like Harris, so we shouldn't care, anyway, but a lot of people were reminded why they don't like Trump.
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“I’ve known [Harris] a long time indirectly, not directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage,” Trump said. “I didn’t know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black. And now she wants to be known as Black. So, I don’t know, is she Indian or is she Black?”
Loud groans and boos could be heard from the audience.
“She has always identified as a Black woman,” Scott corrected Trump.
“I respect either one, but she obviously doesn’t,” he responded. “I think somebody should look into that.”
"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
I think you are overreacting.Harris childhood friend talks about their neighborhood. Black mayor. Near public housing. Very diverse.
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/29/nx-s1...ood-shaped-her
This 1970s Berkeley Black cultural center shaped Kamala Harris
https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/08...-kamala-harris
Her school wasn't a choice..
In 1970, when Kamala Harris was in first grade, she was part of an effort to desegregate Berkeley, Calif., schools using busing.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...y-students-bu/
“I only learned later that we were part of a national experiment in desegregation with working-class black children from the flatlands being bused in one direction and wealthier white children from the Berkeley hills bused in the other,” Harris writes in her new memoir “The Truths We Hold: An American Journey.”
Then, after her time in Montreal because of her mother's job (1978-1981), she went to a historically Black college, Howard in D.C.
I don't know why we're talking about this other than Trump's pathetic attempt to unBlack her. It was sad and asinine.
He even said SHE doesn't respect Blacks. It was a humiliation. Neither of us like Harris, so we shouldn't care, anyway, but a lot of people were reminded why they don't like Trump.
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“I’ve known [Harris] a long time indirectly, not directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage,” Trump said. “I didn’t know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black. And now she wants to be known as Black. So, I don’t know, is she Indian or is she Black?”
Loud groans and boos could be heard from the audience.
“She has always identified as a Black woman,” Scott corrected Trump.
“I respect either one, but she obviously doesn’t,” he responded. “I think somebody should look into that.”
“I’ve known [Harris] a long time indirectly, not directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage,” Trump said. “I didn’t know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black. And now she wants to be known as Black. So, I don’t know, is she Indian or is she Black?”
Loud groans and boos could be heard from the audience.
“She has always identified as a Black woman,” Scott corrected Trump.
“I respect either one, but she obviously doesn’t,” he responded. “I think somebody should look into that.”
People that don't like Trump will never change their minds.
Trump is not the one making it about race.
My guess is Trump will secure more of the Black Vote than any Republican Candidate in the past.
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So when is he meeting with them?
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I guess it all comes down to perspective, perception, and spin.
There are those that think Trump looked bad, and those that think he looked great.
I would go with what I don't know Trump will do over what I know the left will do.
Only a racist would use race to promote themselves, their ideology, or agenda.
Trump should say, "Vote for me because I am White."
Right after he meets with the National Association of White Journalists.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.
That should be easy to arrange.
All that needs to be done is to organize them into a political lobbying group to advance the goals and the meet the pressing needs of white people.That should be easy to arrange.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.
I think it's called The Daily Wire
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