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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Iran's coming out with its "approriate time, manner" stuff.

    This is an indication perhaps of a calming down. Maybe the threat made back by the Israelis
    that they would torch all Iranian oil & gas fields made them think twice, or some back-channel agreement with the U.S.

    https://tass.com/world/1824955
    Torching the Iranian oil & gas fields is going to hurt American and Euporean Economy.
    But i suppose the deep state doesn't care.


    This is an indication perhaps of a calming down
    I disagree.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 08-03-2024 at 02:55 PM.



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  3. #32
    They just assassinated another Hezbollah official.

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...he-middle-east

    I don't see how they are doing this all without our sats.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They just assassinated another Hezbollah official.

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...he-middle-east

    I don't see how they are doing this all without our sats.
    https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1819838871200219428


    Netanyahu wants an all out war for his potical survival.
    The American govt and Europe are happy to assist.

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  7. #35
    40+ missiles been reported fired from Lebanon

  8. #36
    Things are definitely kicking into gear with US expecting an Iranian/Hezbollah attack against Israel as soon as tonight which is tomorrow in the ME. The US has lost a Reaper in Yemen, shot down. Russia is publicly sending all sorts of stuff to Iran and even to Yemen. The planes keep coming. Russian forces will be protecting Iranian air space. They have already brought multiple Murmansk-BN's into Iran. These large-scale, transportable EW units cover 5,000km. This means they will be able to jam signals of not only Israel but American planes, drones, missiles, ships, as far as all Northern Africa and all NATO in the Med up to and including Sardinia, Sicily.. and that all the Arabian Sea and all American assets in the region. All Israel, of course.

    Israeli leadership has gone down into bunkers, as has Hezbollah. Iran says it expects Hezbollah to strike deeper into Irael than ever before, suggesting they may hit Dimona where Israel has nukes and a new underground command center. Lebanese and Israelis are preparing for the worst. Assad has gone to Moscow for war preparations. Russia is going to war with Israel if need be. There is no doubt about this. The Jordanian FM is in Tehran to answer to Iran's warnings that if Jordan tries to intercept Iranian assets then Jordan's units involved are legitimate targets. It is possible that Jordan will renege on its promises to intercept, we don't know, but it's also irrelevant now because with Russian crews on the EW's in Iran, they won't be able to hit them anyway. I am totally unsure about how Russia would, if able, handle any launch from the Israeli nuclear subs (German dolphin class), or some of the older Israeli nuclear missiles, probably have to be by kinetic intercept not EW. It is possible the location of the Israeli subs is already being tracked by the Russian, Iranian, North Korean, Indian, or Chinese navies.

    Something has balled up Iran in the last 24 hours and this is it, Putin's support. Putin is also levelling protection for Maduro. This is a big deal it means Russia is committed to a larger project in the Western Hemisphere than just Cuba. Maduro is committing VZ's oil reserves to BRICs. Iran has told all Arab diplomats today that it "doesn't care" if all-out war is triggered by the Israeli/American response. That is an incredibly confident statement to make. Also, Ukraine is picking up with F-16s and UAV's and assaults against civilian areas of Donbass and Belgorod. This is highly likely an orchestrated intent to make Russia focus on multiple escalations. IMO all this does is increase chances for Russia to employ tactical nukes against Kiev proper and possibly even NATO air bases in Poland and Romania.I guarantee you the Ayatollah is emboldened by Russia and China's FULL commitment and support against Israel and US.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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  10. #38
    If cooler heads prevail, the BRICS participating nations will do very well in the future.

    Getting them to bite in a major conflict soon is the West's only card they think they can play to keep the status quo.

    Non-intervention, fair dealing, things like that could also work for the West, but we won't do that.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Things are definitely kicking into gear with US expecting an Iranian/Hezbollah attack against Israel as soon as tonight which is tomorrow in the ME. The US has lost a Reaper in Yemen, shot down. Russia is publicly sending all sorts of stuff to Iran and even to Yemen. The planes keep coming. Russian forces will be protecting Iranian air space. They have already brought multiple Murmansk-BN's into Iran. These large-scale, transportable EW units cover 5,000km. This means they will be able to jam signals of not only Israel but American planes, drones, missiles, ships, as far as all Northern Africa and all NATO in the Med up to and including Sardinia, Sicily.. and that all the Arabian Sea and all American assets in the region. All Israel, of course.

    Israeli leadership has gone down into bunkers, as has Hezbollah. Iran says it expects Hezbollah to strike deeper into Irael than ever before, suggesting they may hit Dimona where Israel has nukes and a new underground command center. Lebanese and Israelis are preparing for the worst. Assad has gone to Moscow for war preparations. Russia is going to war with Israel if need be. There is no doubt about this. The Jordanian FM is in Tehran to answer to Iran's warnings that if Jordan tries to intercept Iranian assets then Jordan's units involved are legitimate targets. It is possible that Jordan will renege on its promises to intercept, we don't know, but it's also irrelevant now because with Russian crews on the EW's in Iran, they won't be able to hit them anyway. I am totally unsure about how Russia would, if able, handle any launch from the Israeli nuclear subs (German dolphin class), or some of the older Israeli nuclear missiles, probably have to be by kinetic intercept not EW. It is possible the location of the Israeli subs is already being tracked by the Russian, Iranian, North Korean, Indian, or Chinese navies.

    Something has balled up Iran in the last 24 hours and this is it, Putin's support. Putin is also levelling protection for Maduro. This is a big deal it means Russia is committed to a larger project in the Western Hemisphere than just Cuba. Maduro is committing VZ's oil reserves to BRICs. Iran has told all Arab diplomats today that it "doesn't care" if all-out war is triggered by the Israeli/American response. That is an incredibly confident statement to make. Also, Ukraine is picking up with F-16s and UAV's and assaults against civilian areas of Donbass and Belgorod. This is highly likely an orchestrated intent to make Russia focus on multiple escalations. IMO all this does is increase chances for Russia to employ tactical nukes against Kiev proper and possibly even NATO air bases in Poland and Romania.I guarantee you the Ayatollah is emboldened by Russia and China's FULL commitment and support against Israel and US.
    Your comment speaks with authority.
    Where did you get your information?
    Your writing makes it seem like you really know what you are talking about.
    You have very specific details.
    How did you come to this knowledge or information?

  12. #40
    The IDF announced the clearing out of Khan Younis and Rafah before a big operation coming. Meanwhile, the Jordanian FM and the Iraqi Gov have said formally they support Gaza and none of this violence can stop without Israel ceasing operations against Palestinians. Which isn't going to happen. The opposite is being ordered.

    I put the chances at over 3/4 now for all-out war, including thousands of American casualties in the Middle East. I believe Russia is going to hit the Green Zone in Baghdad and wipe out all Americans in Syria (but use Syrians, Iraqis and Iranians to do it, arguably).

    If Iran has to assault Israel a second time in response to whatever Israel hits back with, civilans are highly unlikely to be spared.

    A minority, but not an insignificant one, in Israel of Jews really want to overthrow the government. They are going to become violent if push comes to shove. It could be a Civil War.

    The Turkish Diyanet chief basically called for Jihad to support Palestine today. This occurred in Mecca. He called exactly for Muslim unity to - "Speaking at an event in Saudi Arabia’s Mecca, Ali Erbaş, head of the Presidency of Religious Affairs (DIB or Diyanet), urged Muslims to join forces to stop the massacre of innocent Palestinians in Gaza by the occupying Zionists. “I pray to Allah for all Muslims to combine their powers and exert efforts for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital,” Erbaş told participants of the Ninth Conference of Ministers of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs hosted by Saudi Arabia." The Diyanet chief is the Turkish STATE leader of religious affairs. He represents the government. This is not a call for asking Israel to ceasefire. It is a call to bring force against Israel and by war, force Israel to accept a Palestinian State. Like NOW. Not through diplomacy. And don't forget, Erdogan SAID he was preparing the army to march into Israel just last week!
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch



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  14. #41
    Ynet/Times of Israel right on their websites.

    preparing for many casualties in Israel
    US will struggle to contain the attack
    war on five fronts to follow

    why bother posting anymore. prepare.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  15. #42
    perhaps as early as 11-12pm est

    good luck everyone
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Ynet/Times of Israel right on their websites.

    preparing for many casualties in Israel
    US will struggle to contain the attack
    war on five fronts to follow

    why bother posting anymore. prepare.
    The other side knew one weakness that US has. The US economy. The US economy will not like these conflicts on many fronts.

    "Good investment" might likely bite Mitt Romney.

  17. #44
    Yeah forget all of that above. What will happen is Iran is going to announce in advance a strike on only military targets. They will send all their old junk, not their latest hardware and it will all be shot down, maybe a few will hit. Everybody saves face and life goes on. This is how it always has been done.

  18. #45
    There have been some delays as the PMU's and Hezbollah and the SA are moving lots of stuff out of warehouses and known locations today that will be hit. Not in Lebanon, but in Syria and Iraq. The other delay is Shoigu's last-minute visit to Tehran. The IOF was hit pretty hard by Al-Qassam in Khan Younis. Shoigu's sudden trip is likely meant not to merely coordinate the influx of new equipment and Russian specialists, but to set up a joint structure in case of large escalation. I don't expect Putin to allow Shoigu to stay in Tehran when the strikes are launched. Once he's back, there will be a short window of a few hours, then if not, probably not until at least 7-8 hours after that, meaning tomorrow. So, it's difficult to say if it will happen in 2-5 hours or in 12-15 hours. Additionally, there is a possibility that even more delay could occur, if they find advantages in the delay. That is unlikely, however, as Israel would sense it and pre-empt bigger.
    Last edited by Snowball; 08-05-2024 at 10:22 AM.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  19. #46
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  20. #47
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Thought we left Iraq
    An unspecified number of U.S. personnel were injured in a suspected rocket attack on Al Asad Air Base in Iraq on Monday, a defense spokesperson told Task & Purpose.

    “Initial indications are that several U.S. personnel were injured,” the spokesperson said in a statement. “Base personnel are conducting a post-attack damage assessment. We will provide updates as more information becomes available.”

    No information was immediately available about how many Americans were wounded or the severity of their injuries.

    ...
    This is a breaking news story. It will be updated as more information becomes available.

    https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-m...rocket-attack/
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    thought we left Iraq
    Well, like a dog, we always leave $#@! behind.

  26. #52
    More indications the Iranian response will leave Israel with reasons not to escalate to full war.

    https://jewishinsider.com/2024/08/iran-d...s-hungary/

    Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah is scheduled to address on Tuesday, August 6, a mourning ceremony held to commemorate the Islamic Resistance Commander Sayyed Fuad Shokr one week after his martyrdom.
    Sayyed Shokr, aka Sayyed Mohsen, embraced martyrdom on Tuesday, July 30, in an Israeli airstrike on Haret Hreik in Beirut’s Dahiyeh, which also left six more martyrs and over 70 injuries.
    Hezbollah Media Relations indicated in a statement that the ceremony will be held at Sayyed Al-Shuhada Complex at 17:00 (Beirut Time).

    Nasrallah's speech is highly likely to be streamed from an undisclosed location. If Israel attacks the Complex during this ceremony, Hezbollah would retaliate with real war. You can be sure there are some in Israel who would like nothing more than smashing the complex during this ceremony.

    2 PM GMT 10 AM EST

    P.S.
    The CIA and Mossad want to overthrow Netanyahu if they must to prevent a world war. Mossad chief Burnea is an opponent of Netanyahu who wanted a hostage deal and Gaza ceasefire many months ago. He met with CIA Director Burns in Rome last week, intentionally conducted when Netanyahu was occupied in the US, behind his back.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  27. #53
    The longer this goes, the longer it will look like they are waiting for Tisha b'Av.

    This is the last day of the Three Weeks, a period of gradually increasing mourning for national tragedies that occurred during these days. Tisha b’Av is the saddest day of the Jewish year, commemorated by the most intense mourning practices of this period.

    As far as Tisha b’Av, the Talmud (Taanis 29a) says the date was established as a day of mourning because God metaphorically said, “Since you cried for no reason, I’ll give you something to cry about!”

    Was this the connotation of Nasrallah's statement: ""You laughed a bit, but you will cry a lot. " ?
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/393976

    The primary tragedies we mourn on Tisha b’Av are the destructions of the two Temple, each of which was destroyed on this date – the first by the Babylonians and the second, hundreds of years later, by the Romans. Each destruction resulted in an exile, the latter of which we are still experiencing.
    Other tragedies we recognize on this date include the destruction of the city of Beitar in 133 CE, effectively ending Bar Kochba’s revolt against the Roman occupiers, and the subsequent plowing of the Temple Mount by the Romans.
    Many later tragedies also occurred on this date, including the expulsion of Jews from England in 1290 and from Spain in 1492.

    Hmm! Aug 12/13 ???


    https://www.ou.org/holidays/what-is-tisha-bav/
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  28. #54
    Netanyahu should have been removed from power months ago

    For the better of Israel Palestiniane US & probably Martians

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