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Thread: Michigan - Harris up 11 points over Trump in latest polling, also behind in AZ WI and NV

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    Can't speak for those other states, but I know what happened in Michigan...

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, great plan, pandering to the black vote again.

    Maybe, just maybe, white "conservatives" could gain just a little traction by unashamedly standing up for their own kind, for the first time in their miserable lives.

    https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1816864059410559214

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1818476367832359224

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1818476367832359224

    That's what Harris Campgaing is all pandering and hoping for.

    All The Star Power to Convince People to support Harris/Biden team all over again.



    Never mind the Migrant Caravans coming...

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    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 07-30-2024 at 08:49 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    In the RCP average, Trump is winning every single battleground state, the 2 way and the 5 way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    In the RCP average, Trump is winning every single battleground state, the 2 way and the 5 way.
    No he's not.

    He's now behind two in Michigan.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    That's what Harris Campgaing is all pandering and hoping for.

    All The Star Power to Convince People to support Harris/Biden team all over again.

    Never mind the Migrant Caravans coming...
    And she will get it.

    All of the Entertainment Complex will line up behind her.

    You're not going to counter that with C list rappers and a couple of one off actors or country music singers.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And she will get it.

    All of the Entertainment Complex will line up behind her.

    You're not going to counter that with C list rappers and a couple of one off actors or country music singers.
    You're not going to counter that with C list rappers and a couple of one off actors or country music singers.
    Who Gives a Crap about rappers or country music singers that have millions and dont give a crap about normal folks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No he's not.

    He's now behind two in Michigan.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris
    Michigan is basically a blue state now and Florida is red. The number of battle ground states has really declined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And she will get it.

    All of the Entertainment Complex will line up behind her.

    You're not going to counter that with C list rappers and a couple of one off actors or country music singers.
    I agree it's a losing strategy, Hollywood and the music industry are solidy democratic.

    It's definately more than a few in Rap and County. A lot of black rappers have woken up to the fact that the democrats want to keep black people down with cradle to grave welfare. They are for the most part self made businessmen and it's just natural for them to lean republican. Ice Cube, Snoop Dog and 50 Cent have all supported Trump in the past and they are in no way C list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Michigan is basically a blue state now and Florida is red. The number of battle ground states has really declined.
    RCP has it listed as a "battleground" state.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No he's not.

    He's now behind two in Michigan.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris
    Due to push polls and a honeymoon effect that will wither away very quickly.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    manufactured polls.

    part of the game to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1818476367832359224

    Sorry but I'm missing all of this RNC pandering to black people that you keep harping about. I saw quite the opposite.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/race-po...al-convention/

    What else does the RNC need to try to garner an extra 3% of white people that are supposedly marginalized by the RNC not being racist pro white enough? Trump already said he wants full immunity for police. There the push for a law to ban burning the American flag. Oh, and telling Christians after 2024 they won't have to vote again because in 4 years he will have "fixed" everything. That is, of course, a bald faced lie but that's not as bad as the sound bite it lends itself to. And yes, the media is flat out lying about what he meant. So his enemies get traction from what he says and it gets him very little. And that's the real issue. Trump is a negative soundbite machine the same way Biden is a gaffe machine. Kamala is a cringe machine (They not like us?) and she has a record that she needs to run away from (trying to pretend she was never described by the entire MSM as Biden's "border czar") but you're not getting any big headlines that she has to run away from. There's been a whole news cycle of Republicans having to Trumpsplain the "Christians won't have to vote again" comment.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    I am pretty sure that did more damage to independent voters than having Amber Rose speak at the RNC, as cringy as that was.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I am pretty sure that did more damage to independent voters than having Amber Rose speak at the RNC, as cringy as that was.
    No it didn't and the polling data confirms that.

    Trump talking out of his ass and generating sound bites for the MMOs is nothing new either, hell, he's been doing that for years.

    Only one thing changed to take his polling from being up a couple of points to down by double digits in Michigan and down in other states.

    And that was replacing Biden with Harris.

    Now, certainly some of that switch was due to the fact that Biden was obviously incapable of holding the office.

    But among black voters, especially black women, it was simply because she was black like them.

    What else does the RNC need to try to garner an extra 3% of white people that are supposedly marginalized by the RNC not being racist pro white enough?
    I'm glad you struck that out, but I'm curious: why is "racist" your default position on this?

    There are hundreds if not thousands of political pressure and advocacy groups in the US, including the DNC, that openly advocate for the specific interests of the races and ethnic groups they represent.

    Why is it "racist" if whites do the same thing?
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    I'm not surprised. Trump's over-the-top cheerleading for Israel guarantees he loses Michigan.

    He has zero chance to win Michigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I'm not surprised. Trump's over-the-top cheerleading for Israel guarantees he loses Michigan.

    He has zero chance to win Michigan.
    they voted for whitmer so it tells me anything i needed to know , mentally handicapped pol pot in a skirt
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No it didn't and the polling data confirms that.

    Trump talking out of his ass and generating sound bites for the MMOs is nothing new either, hell, he's been doing that for years.
    And...sometimes that hurts him. Ignore the facts all you want, but him telling Bob Woodward that he new the pandemic would be bad but he didn't want people to "panic" hurt him. In 2016 Trump made gains by talking crazy. Everyone who loves the crazy talk already supports Trump. So now it's the voters in the middle who don't really like Trump or Kamala trying to decide not which one is better but which one is worse.

    Only one thing changed to take his polling from being up a couple of points to down by double digits in Michigan and down in other states.

    And that was replacing Biden with Harris.

    Now, certainly some of that switch was due to the fact that Biden was obviously incapable of holding the office.

    But among black voters, especially black women, it was simply because she was black like them.
    Biden was a walking corpse! Even freaking Jon Stewart had to admit that. Come on dude. With Biden one could actually make the argument that if he got that 3 AM phone call about an incoming nuclear strike he wouldn't know where he was. The biggest attacks on Kamala right now are coming from black people. Case in point:



    Ask yourself this question. Where were all of the black voters for Kamala Harris back when she was running against Biden for president in 2020? Her poll numbers were so terrible that she actually dropped out in 2019.

    https://rollcall.com/2019/12/03/kama...idential-race/

    You're delusional if you think Kamala Harris is somehow popular because she's a black woman. She's doing better in Joe Biden in the polls because she's not a corpse and, to the extent that's she's doing better than Trump, it's because she's not Trump.

    See also:



    I'm glad you struck that out, but I'm curious: why is "racist" your default position on this?
    I'm curious as to how you can describe applauding the "monkey noises" frat punk as anything but racist? And you brought up race. It seems to be your default position. I struck it out to be funny, but I think that was straight up racist on the part of the RNC. It certainly wasn't pro white. (Unless you think backing Israel 100% is what all good white people are supposed to do). It was racist and it was pro Israel and it had nothing to do with actually appealing to sensible white people. But...maybe I'm wrong. Explain how that clip is supposed to gain that elusive 3% of white people that you think feel the GOP just isn't standing up for them enough.

    There are hundreds if not thousands of political pressure and advocacy groups in the US, including the DNC, that openly advocate for the specific interests of the races and ethnic groups they represent.

    Why is it "racist" if whites do the same thing?
    So....adocating for Israel by making monkey noises as a black woman who is on campus to speak for the Palestinians is standing up for white people?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    [SPLIT TO: Trump demands immunity for police]

    Maybe I'm overthinking this, but it seems like Trump could easily pick up 3-5% more of the black vote by disavowing summary executions by the kops of harmless black women and not pushing for their blanket immunity.

    But he won't do this.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-02-2024 at 02:27 PM. Reason: added "SPLIT TO" link

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    Donald Trump to Address National Association of Black Journalists in Chicago

    https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...ts-in-chicago/

    KRISTINA WONG 31 Jul 2024

    Former President Donald Trump will participate in a conversation with attendees of the National Association of Black Journalists’ Annual Convention and Career Fair on Wednesday in Chicago, Illinois.

    The conversation will address “the most pressing issues facing the Black community,” according to a Trump-Vance campaign press release.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Meanwhile, over in Fantasy Land.

    But don't white people have "pressing issues"?



    Donald Trump to Address National Association of White Journalists in Chicago

    https://wwwbreitbart.com/fantasyland/yeah right

    Suggon Deeznuts 31 Jul 2024

    Former President Donald Trump will participate in a conversation with attendees of the National Association of White Journalists’ Annual Convention and Career Fair on Wednesday in Chicago, Illinois.

    The conversation will address “the most pressing issues facing the White community,” according to a Trump-Vance campaign press release.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.



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    If they had the white journalist convention and career fair in Chicago I could at least send Danke with my list of pressing issues but no we cant have that , instead we are going to get blacks , dems , white liberal woman , jews , illegals and **** to bring venezuela to me.
    Do something Danke

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    This poll has got to be bullshitz.
    Nobody is up 11 in the rust belt.
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    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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