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Thread: Israel's Iron Dome kills Druze children, media lies and says it was Hezbollah

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    Israel's Iron Dome kills Druze children, media lies and says it was Hezbollah


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    and then, he used the lie as an excuse to kill more kids.

    Antiwar.com:

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has delayed the evacuation of 150 sick and wounded Palestinian children from Gaza to the UAE, Israeli media reported on Sunday.

    "A source told Haaretz that Netanyahu made the decision in response to the killing of 12 Arab Druze children in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Israel blamed the massacre on Hezbollah, while Hezbollah denied the accusation and said the children were hit with an Israeli air defense rocket.

    Netanyahu’s decision to punish the sick and wounded children was denounced by the group Physicians for Human Rights, which called the move a “cruel game by the Israeli government with children’s lives.”

    Last week, Haaretz reported that Netanyahu instructed his government to arrange transport of sick and wounded Palestinians from Gaza to a third country for treatment. The first plane was due to take off on Monday, but the flight has been canceled.

    Netanyahu also previously canceled a plan to set up a field inside Israel to treat Gaza’s children. Some children have been evacuated through Egypt for medical care, but the Israeli capture of the Rafah border crossing on May 7 cut off that vital lifeline."

    and many other news reporting this:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=150+palest...sb&df=d&ia=web
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    more:

    part of article:

    "On Sunday, the Israeli army posted pictures that show shrapnel, which it said were found at the scene of the attack and matched an Iranian-made Falaq-1 rocket.

    However, none of the images appear to have been taken of the alleged rocket shrapnel in situ at the blast site.

    The Israeli army also published a map showing what it said was path of the rocket, claiming it was launched from southeast Lebanon's Shebaa Farms area.

    Yet, these claims were refuted by an anonymous Israeli paramedic, who told al-Araby TV that witnesses told him the shrapnel belonged to an Israeli Iron Dome missile.

    The paramedic, who was reportedly wearing a Star of David shirt, said he would be “imprisoned” if he documented his testimony on air. Middle East Eye was not able to independently verify the claims.

    Other witnesses who spoke to al-Araby on condition of anonymity said they saw the rocket flying from Mount Hermon on the Lebanon-Syrian border falling towards the football field.

    Al-Mayadeen, a Lebanese media outlet with close ties to Hezbollah, published an article saying the blast site in Majdal Shams was not consistent with the kind expected after the impact of a Falaq-1 rocket, which it said would have made a larger crater."

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/m...-deadly-attack

    Netanyahu visits Majdal Shams, vows 'harsh response". Locals tell him to leave.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ve/ar-BB1qP2yR
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    I don't think it's completely unreasonable to blame Hezbollah if your defensive rockets trying to blow up incoming rockets end up hitting civilians..

    Like, what if a mass shooter is shooting up people in a mall, and somebody has a gun and shoots the shooter, but a stray bullet ends up ricochets and hits somebody?

    Still kinda the mass shooter's fault..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't think it's completely unreasonable to blame Hezbollah if your defensive rockets trying to blow up incoming rockets end up hitting civilians..

    Like, what if a mass shooter is shooting up people in a mall, and somebody has a gun and shoots the shooter, but a stray bullet ends up ricochets and hits somebody?

    Still kinda the mass shooter's fault..
    it's a long story and we don't tend to pay attention to every tit-for-tat and justification.

    why won't Israel give them the ceasefire in Gaza they demand? it's not an unreasonable request.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    You had netanyahu visiting the grave of those Druze children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    it's a long story and we don't tend to pay attention to every tit-for-tat and justification.

    why won't Israel give them the ceasefire in Gaza they demand? it's not an unreasonable request.
    Why should they?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I mean, I was pretty anti-Israel back in the 9/11 was an inside job, Mossad was involved, white phosphorus on civilians days..

    But wasn't the CIA, FBI, MI6 and Saudi Arabia involved in 9/11 too? Why single out Israel? If 9/11 wasn't my fault and my intel agencies were involved, I'm certainly not going to blame Israeli civilians.

    As far as crimes against civilians, Israel has been pretty good for the most part for the last decade or so. When they go to bomb a civilian building where Hamas is hiding weapons, they flare, they announce they are bombing it, and Hamas guards the doors and tells the civilians to stay inside so they can use the civilian casualties to use as propaganda to get more funding from Arab countries and garner support from the anti-Israel crowd.

    Then they build rockets out of water pipes coming into Gaza that Israel built for them, fertilizer sent in to help them grow food, then complain they don't have enough water and food. Hamas remains in power, then goes on a rampage in Israel slaughtering innocent civilians.

    Gaza is a "concentration camp", it's all Israel's fault, yet Gaza shares a border with Egypt?

    I'm sorry. I'm done. I know there are innocent people in Gaza getting hurt who don't support Hamas, and I hope the best for them. I don't wish any US tax dollars go to either side. They can fight it out, I'll root for the side who doesn't lock civilians in a building that's about to get bombed.
    Last edited by dannno; 07-29-2024 at 02:32 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I mean, I was pretty anti-Israel back in the 9/11 was an inside job, Mossad was involved, white phosphorus on civilians days..

    But wasn't the CIA, FBI, MI6 and Saudi Arabia involved in 9/11 too? Why single out Israel? If 9/11 wasn't my fault and my intel agencies were involved, I'm certainly not going to blame Israeli civilians.

    As far as crimes against civilians, Israel has been pretty good for the most part for the last decade or so. When they go to bomb a civilian building where Hamas is hiding weapons, they flare, they announce they are bombing it, and Hamas guards the doors and tells the civilians to stay inside so they can use the civilian casualties to use as propaganda to get more funding from Arab countries and garner support from the anti-Israel crowd.

    Then they build rockets out of water pipes coming into Gaza that Israel built for them, fertilizer sent in to help them grow food, then complain they don't have enough water and food. Hamas remains in power, then goes on a rampage in Israel slaughtering innocent civilians.

    Gaza is a "concentration camp", it's all Israel's fault, yet Gaza shares a border with Egypt?

    I'm sorry. I'm done. I know there are innocent people in Gaza getting hurt who don't support Hamas, and I hope the best for them. I don't wish any US tax dollars go to either side. They can fight it out, I'll root for the side who doesn't lock civilians in a building that's about to get bombed.
    Gaza is a "concentration camp", it's all Israel's fault, yet Gaza shares a border with Egypt?
    Its why Currently Egypt has a puppet goverment, remember when John McCain proclaimed.

    "Today we are all Egyptian" when Graham and McCain were in Egypt after a coup?

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    If you want to go into the history, Jews started settling Israel and it was mostly a hot desert wasteland. They bought up land, used various techniques to turn it into a lush green livable country. Muslims immigrated there, some for opportunity, some were sent by Arab countries to help fight back against the Israeli settlements.. and they didn't send their best, they sent their criminals, their rapists.. many came from mental institutions.

    And now it's "their" land, from the river to the sea? I'm calling bull$#@!.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Its why Currently Egypt has a puppet goverment, remember when John McCain proclaimed.

    "Today we are all Egyptian" when Graham and McCain were in Egypt after a coup?
    There are countless Arab countries who could welcome in their Muslim brothers as asylum seekers. What about all those countries losing asylum seekers to Europe? Gaza has a huge coastline to draw from, they aren't "trapped" there.

    None of them raised their hand.
    Last edited by dannno; 07-29-2024 at 02:44 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    There are countless Arab countries who could welcome in their Muslim brothers as asylum seekers. What about all those countries losing asylum seekers to Europe? Gaza has a huge coastline to draw from, they aren't "trapped" there.

    None of them raised their hand.
    None of them raised their hand.
    Because those Arab Countries are nothing but American puppet satellite countries.

    The same ones who are are refusing to help Italy over the Migration and crack down on the African/Arab migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    There are countless Arab countries who could welcome in their Muslim brothers as asylum seekers. What about all those countries losing asylum seekers to Europe? Gaza has a huge coastline to draw from, they aren't "trapped" there.

    None of them raised their hand.
    I could retort everything you've posted, but it would take weeks because misinformation and malinformation is difficult and time-consuming to overcome.

    But you should know the reason why is twofold. #1, Palestinians are on their homeland. It was theirs before the Jews of Europe flooded in there and stole it. It was lush and green and peaceful, even for Jews who wanted to visit but it wasn't a Jewish country. Over 6 million Palestinians are already in disapora, purged of their native land by Europe's Jews. And btw, Israel killed more of its own people on 10/7 than Hamas did. Hamas was only taking hostages to swap for the many, many more hostages Israel already took of Palestinians. #2, Egypt is for Palestinian statehood, in Palestine. Throwing in the towel is not what the Palestinians want, or Egyptians want. Like I said, you can look it up anywhere and find out where the 6+ million Palestinians who were driven out of their homeland live today.
    Last edited by Snowball; 07-29-2024 at 04:17 PM.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If you want to go into the history, Jews started settling Israel and it was mostly a hot desert wasteland. They bought up land, used various techniques to turn it into a lush green livable country. Muslims immigrated there, some for opportunity, some were sent by Arab countries to help fight back against the Israeli settlements.. and they didn't send their best, they sent their criminals, their rapists.. many came from mental institutions.

    And now it's "their" land, from the river to the sea? I'm calling bull$#@!.
    Israel is a communist country. The only people who own land there inherited it. That land has been in those families for generations. I guess you don't remember when a shill popped up here claiming that the fact that Arabs own more land in Israel than Jews do is some kind of proof that Israel doesn't discriminate against Arabs.

    Square that brainwashing you just regurgitated with that little hard fact.

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    Izrael is pure evil, atleast the government and those who support and defend it.

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    Isn't it common knowledge at this point that "Hamas" is funded, if not created, by Izrael.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    There are countless Arab countries who could welcome in their Muslim brothers as asylum seekers. What about all those countries losing asylum seekers to Europe? Gaza has a huge coastline to draw from, they aren't "trapped" there.

    None of them raised their hand.

    This is a common theme among defenders of Izraeli entitlement, that the neighboring countries should absorb the victims of Izraeli genocide.

    Why aid and enable Izraeli crimes against humanity?

    What the Arab countries should be doing is enforcing the Palestinian Right of Return.

    They're not "losing them to Europe".

    The Zionist World Government is exporting Arabs with the goal of Replacement and emptying Arab lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Isn't it common knowledge at this point that "Hamas" is funded, if not created, by Izrael.
    They admitted to creating it. They say they "lost control" of it, as if they ever lose control of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If you want to go into the history, Jews started settling Israel and it was mostly a hot desert wasteland. They bought up land, used various techniques to turn it into a lush green livable country. Muslims immigrated there, some for opportunity, some were sent by Arab countries to help fight back against the Israeli settlements.. and they didn't send their best, they sent their criminals, their rapists.. many came from mental institutions.

    And now it's "their" land, from the river to the sea? I'm calling bull$#@!.
    There are large swathes of the USA that are mostly hot desert wasteland. Be cool if a foreign ethnic group took over it and became a sovereign country? Maybe if they made it lush? Ayn Randish hypocrisy.
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