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    https://x.com/stillgray/status/1818499397153423683




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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    https://x.com/stillgray/status/1818499397153423683

    I have a problem believing anything coming from Ian Miles Cheong considering the past issues around him.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Somehow they would prefer an American puppet through a regime change?

    Because it has oil?

    Yeah i am sure the opposition would think of the people just like that clown Milei in Argentina?

    Milei to get a new IMF deal.
    So hypothetically if you had to choose between Maduro or Milei to run your country, you'd pick Maduro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    So hypothetically if you had to choose between Maduro or Milei to run your country, you'd pick Maduro?
    Argentina’s austerity measures spark debate

    Among its measures was a legal change that allowed the sport clubs to convert to public limited companies, with private investors and the ability to list shares on the stock market.


    In other words, the move paved the way for the clubs — and popular football groups, in particular — to shift from a nonprofit model to a profit-driven structure, if they chose to do so.



    But the pushback was swift. Big-name clubs like Boca Juniors and its rival River Plate released statements, pledging to remain nonprofits despite the decree.
    Still, the leaders of Argentina’s sport clubs warn that the austerity measures could have as devastating an impact on their survival as the push for privatisation.

    Under President Milei, the worst economic crisis in decades puts Argentine ingenuity to the test

    “I haven’t had a job for a year, it’s now my sole income,” said Alejandra, who declined to give her last name for fear of reprisals from neighbors. Every four or five patrons, she puts on gloves and empties her bucket into the trash.

    Milei Scrapped price controls how is that good?



    Milei scrapped hundreds of price controls. He slashed subsidies for electricity, fuel and transportation, causing prices to skyrocket in a country that already had one of the world’s highest inflation rates.



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Argentina’s austerity measures spark debate

    Under President Milei, the worst economic crisis in decades puts Argentine ingenuity to the test

    You'd pick Maduro over Milei???

    Obviously when you switch from a massive socialistic government to a limited government, you're going to have lots of initial pain.

    I'm confused by your post. This isn't rocket science for any advocate of free markets.

    Maduro is a borderline communist. You know that's bad ... right? Last time I checked Venezuela ranks as the second least free country next to North Korea.

    The only question I have about Milei is whether he's really going to shrink government and it looks like so far he is.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    You'd pick Maduro over Milei???

    Obviously when you switch from a massive socialistic government to a limited government, you're going to have lots of initial pain.

    I'm confused by your post. This isn't rocket science for any advocate of free markets.

    Maduro is a borderline communist. You know that's bad ... right? Last time I checked Venezuela ranks as the second least free country next to North Korea.

    The only question I have about Milei is whether he's really going to shrink government and it looks like so far he is.
    I can't answer for him, but you need to consider that we've changed so much, that markets just aren't going to be free anymore.
    There is a tiny group that has all the money. It's not freedom. So, the laissez-faire, it played out. It's over. Without something to protect
    the public's interest, the public stake, the assets of the people, the nation, then it's just feeding time for the oligarchs unless they are held off.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I can't answer for him, but you need to consider that we've changed so much, that markets just aren't going to be free anymore.
    There is a tiny group that has all the money. It's not freedom. So, the laissez-faire, it played out. It's over. Without something to protect
    the public's interest, the public stake, the assets of the people, the nation, then it's just feeding time for the oligarchs unless they are held off.
    Remember Boris Johnson? he lied that he was a populist. He just used populism to gain the advantage this is what the Globalists wanted.

    Also there was a picture of Boris Johnson with a 2030 Agenda Pin on his clothing not so long ago.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I can't answer for him, but you need to consider that we've changed so much, that markets just aren't going to be free anymore.
    There is a tiny group that has all the money. It's not freedom. So, the laissez-faire, it played out. It's over. Without something to protect
    the public's interest, the public stake, the assets of the people, the nation, then it's just feeding time for the oligarchs unless they are held off.
    If that's the case why do you even post on a free market forum if you believe there's no such thing as free markets?

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    I have a problem believing anything coming from Ian Miles Cheong considering the past issues around him.
    100% avoid this guy

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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 07-31-2024 at 09:27 PM.

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    The same Elon Musk that wants to replace humans with Androids?
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 07-31-2024 at 09:51 PM.

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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Your Hero Trump messed up Venezuela with the sanctions because Trump's NeoCons didn't like that chavez won.

    This would be the third time that US govt keeps trying to a coup in Venezuela and this is not because they care about the people.


    The opposition member is a Yale and WEF Young Global leader.
    Chavez and Maduro messed up Venezuela, and Venezuela under them has been our enemy, doing things like sending their violent prisoners to enter the US as part of the illegal invasion.
    I wish we would not meddle at all, but I'm not overly concerned about Trump's actions.
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Bush was the one who first tried to regime change and push for a color revolution in Venezuela agaisnt Chavez.

    It almost worked until the majority of the people in Venezuela stood up for Chavez.

    Then you have Donald Trump who came in and put sanctions against Chavez because he won.


    Trump was never a anti war candidate when he was the establishment candidate just as well.
    If the majority supported Chavez they have come to bitterly regret that idiocy.
    And both Chavez and Maduro have been stealing elections for many years now.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    So hypothetically if you had to choose between Maduro or Milei to run your country, you'd pick Maduro?
    It seems some of them would pick Maduro over any other option, or maybe not if Lenin was on the ballot too.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If the majority supported Chavez they have come to bitterly regret that idiocy.
    And both Chavez and Maduro have been stealing elections for many years now.
    "Have been stealing elections for many years now"
    Just like the US govt had been making sure there are no Anti EU/US governments in Europe with the fake elections in Europe to make sure those that are "Selected"

    Are either Pro Washington or Pro NATO/EU.

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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Chavez and Maduro messed up Venezuela, and Venezuela under them has been our enemy, doing things like sending their violent prisoners to enter the US as part of the illegal invasion.
    I wish we would not meddle at all, but I'm not overly concerned about Trump's actions.
    sending their violent prisoners to enter the US as part of the illegal invasion
    Whatever happened to Mexico sending their prisoners or Criminals?


    Chavez and Maduro messed up Venezuela
    Never mind the sanctions that your "Anti War" Trump imposed on Venezuelan people causing a massive impact on its economy.



    Trump sanctions hurting Venezuela



    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 08-01-2024 at 06:45 PM.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    María corina machado is a WEF advocate/Globalist "RightWinger"


    An advocate of oil privatization who previously called for foreign intervention
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 08-01-2024 at 07:40 AM.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Whatever happened to Mexico sending their prisoners or Criminals?



    Never mind the sanctions that your "Anti War Hero" Trump imposed on Venezuelan people causing a massive impact on its economy.



    Trump sanctions hurting Venezuela



    Venezuela's economy has been crappy since the end of the Chavez regime, way before US sanctions.

    You're ignoring the very real, terrible results of socialism and focusing on vague notions of "globalism".

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    María corina machado is a WEF advocate/Globalist "RightWinger"




    She seems pretty bad but she can't possibly be worse than Maduro.

    At least she favors privatizing the oil business. Or are you against that too? After all it's the "people's oil", right?

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    If that's the case why do you even post on a free market forum if you believe there's no such thing as free markets?
    Oh, so now you want to compare Ron's historical free market with what we have now? I guess then Ron never had a reason to advocate for change. I'll go throw my copies of End the Fed and the Revolution in the trash, since it's all good now.

    Then you can ponder the irony of supporting regime change via sanctions and covert action in other countries, another beautiful mark of our present country, and ignore Ron's staunch opposition to any of that.
    Last edited by Snowball; 08-01-2024 at 01:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    She seems pretty bad but she can't possibly be worse than Maduro.

    At least she favors privatizing the oil business. Or are you against that too? After all it's the "people's oil", right?


    At least she favors privatizing the oil business
    By taking the Oil America just like how American forces are in Syria "Protecting Oil Fields" to steal it through Iraq.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    She seems pretty bad but she can't possibly be worse than Maduro.

    At least she favors privatizing the oil business. Or are you against that too? After all it's the "people's oil", right?
    By the way.

    Ron Paul has always been a advocate agaisnt Coups, Regime Change, Color Revolutions.


    Or are you against that too? After all it's the "people's oil", right?
    The US govt wants the Oil for themselves because they dont want Russia nor China, Iran/India to have the Oil.

    Which i will add it is the biggest supply of Oil Reserves in Latin America next to Arabia, Russia.

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    Someone wants the Oil Resources in Venezuela..

    https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1819162548035272798

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