Black woman calls 911 for help, gets killed by white cop, and nobody cares...

[jmdrake]

@Anti Federalist has the thread "If George Floyd was white" based on what Rush Limbaugh brought up on the breakfast club. But it's not just black versus white. (An AF and I have talked about this). Only the questionable shootings get mass protests / riots only when certain people feel they can get mileage out of it. There are roughly the same number of black people killed by police every year, but only certain times does it become a "thing."

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...-head-at-home/

Did not act as trained’: Deputy fired, faces murder charges after woman who called 911 to report ‘prowler’ is ‘shot in the head’ at home
MATT NAHAMJul 18th, 2024, 1:06 pm
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Sonya Massey, Sean Grayson
Sonya Massey (left) in Facebook photo, (right) fired deputy Sean Grayson after his indictment and booking into the Sangamon County Jail.

A 36-year-old woman was fatally “shot in the head” in her own Springfield, Illinois, home nearly two weeks ago after calling 911 to report a “prowler,” a lawyer for her family says. Now the since fired deputy who allegedly pulled the trigger faces a murder indictment.


According to local authorities, Sonya Massey was pronounced dead at St. John’s Hospital on July 6 after she called 911 in the early morning hours that day, fearing there was an intruder in her home. On Wednesday, the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Office said that Sean Grayson is no longer employed as a deputy, that he “did not act as trained,” and noted that he is accused of official misconduct, aggravated battery with a firearm, and first-degree murder.

The Associated Press reported that the defendant “aggressively yelled” at Massey before he allegedly shot her in the face, demanding that she put down a pot of water.

What the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Office said about its deputy’s firing after Sonya Massey’s death

Sangamon County Sheriff Jack Campbell revealed Wednesday that Grayson is out of a job and that bodycam footage of the shooting will be released Monday. He also alleged that the now former deputy Grayson “did not act as trained or in accordance with our standards” on July 6.
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“First and foremost, my heart breaks for the family and friends of Sonya Massey. This is a tragic incident, and we mourn with them and the community,” the sheriff began, before announcing the completion of the shooting probe. “The Sangamon County State’s Attorney has filed charges against the deputy involved in the fatal shooting of Ms. Massey. It is clear that the deputy did not act as trained or in accordance with our standards. Therefore, Sean Grayson’s employment with the Sheriff’s Office has been terminated. It is my understanding that the body cam videos will be released on Monday, July 22nd; I completely support the release of the officers’ body cam videos in their entirety.”

“We are committed to justice and accountability. With our badge we accept enormous responsibility, and if that responsibility is abused, there should be consequences,” the sheriff added.

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In the aftermath of the July 6 shooting at Massey’s Hoover Avenue home, authorities said they got a “911 call reporting a prowler” and that this is what followed: “Upon arrival, two Deputies conducted a search of the area. At approximately 1:21 a.m., the Deputies reported that shots had been fired, resulting in a female being struck by gunfire.”

What a prominent attorney for Sonya Massey’s family has said

Civil rights lawyer Ben Crump, who has represented the families of Roger Fortson, Botham Jean, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd, said Thursday that the indictment of Sean Grayson “serves as a first step” bringing Sonya Massey and her family “full justice.”


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Massey, Crump said, was “fatally shot” in the head “in her own home — after she called 911 suspecting a break-in.”

In separate comments, Crump reportedly said that it was “extremely hard to imagine how a woman who calls the police out of fear of an intruder ends up shot in the head by the police at her own home.”

[Henry Rogue]

Man accused of killing wife and placing her in freezer extradited from Netherlands to US after yearslong search

WTF?

[jmdrake]

WTF?

Sorry. I thought I had edited out all of the recommended story links. Yeah that story is pretty crazy too.

[Swordsmyth]

Nobody cares?

They don't care so much that the officer already got fired and is being prosecuted, and you can bet good money he will be convicted.

Reverse the races and see if that happens.
But we already saw that:

Shot this woman on 15 July 2017.

Was not arrested until 20 March 2018.

Ex-cop’s murder verdict reversed in Australian woman’s death

With time served and good behavior, which allows for release after 2/3 of a sentence, it is likely Noor will be released in June of 2022, KTSP reports.

[jmdrake]

Nobody cares?

They don't care so much that the officer already got fired and is being prosecuted, and you can bet good money he will be convicted.

Reverse the races and see if that happens.
But we already saw that:



Ex-cop’s murder verdict reversed in Australian woman’s death

With time served and good behavior, which allows for release after 2/3 of a sentence, it is likely Noor will be released in June of 2022, KTSP reports.

Have you heard Joe Biden, Kamala Harris or anyone else talk about this? As far as the Australian woman that got shot, that officer never would have been convicted in the first place by the jury that acquitted the copy who shot Philando Castile, a lawful gun owner who told the officer he had a gun permit. In both cases the officer relied on the "I was in fear of my life" defense. IN the Aussie woman's case the cop heard what sounded like gun fire and then blindly pumped out a round. Not a good shot, but neither is shooting someone who told you he had a gun permit and was reaching for his wallet after you asked for his ID. That cops partner testified that he wasn't concerned. But nice attempt at trying to sound relevant.

Edit: Did you even understand the story you posted?

Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond, a dual U.S.-Australian citizen who called 911 to report a possible sexual assault behind her home. He was sentenced to 12 1/2 years on the murder count but was not sentenced for manslaughter.

The ruling means his murder conviction is overturned and the case will now go back to the district court, where he will be sentenced on the manslaughter count. He has already served more than 28 months of his murder sentence. If sentenced to the presumptive four years for manslaughter, he could be eligible for supervised release around the end of this year.

Following the link on the appeal of the initial conviction.

https://apnews.com/article/minneapol...317b52180d9955

The decision in Noor’s appeal is expected to affect the cases of the four ex-officers charged in Floyd’s death.

Former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin was convicted in April of second- and third-degree murder, as well as second-degree manslaughter, and is appealing. Prosecutors are seeking 30 years in prison for Chauvin, who will be sentenced June 25. The sentence wouldn’t change even if the Supreme Court rules in Noor’s favor, but that decision could become significant if Chauvin’s second-degree murder conviction were overturned on appeal. Prosecutors are seeking to add charges of aiding and abetting third-degree murder to the existing counts against three other ex-officers, who are due to go on trial in March.

The judge overseeing Chauvin’s trial initially threw out the third-degree murder charge against Chauvin, but later reinstated the count after the Court of Appeals affirmed Noor’s conviction. All four former officers also face federal civil rights charges.

So there you go. The same argument is being made "when the races are reversed."

Edit: By the way, the cop who shot Castille was only charged with manslaughter.

[Swordsmyth]

Have you heard Joe Biden, Kamala Harris or anyone else talk about this?

Who cares?
They would just be exploiting it for politics, give it a little time and they probably will.
What actually matters is that the cop has already been fired and charged, hardly a case of "nobody cares".

As far as the Australian woman that got shot, that officer never would have been convicted in the first place by the jury that acquitted the copy who shot Philando Castile, a lawful gun owner who told the officer he had a gun permit. In both cases the officer relied on the "I was in fear of my life" defense.

An entirely different case, there are many such travesties of justice and they happen to all races, just ask Randy Weaver's wife.

IN the Aussie woman's case the cop heard what sounded like gun fire and then blindly pumped out a round.

Absolute garbage, the partner and the camera footage put the lie to it.

Not a good shot, but neither is shooting someone who told you he had a gun permit and was reaching for his wallet after you asked for his ID. That cops partner testified that he wasn't concerned. But nice attempt at trying to sound relevant.

You are the one trying to make a completely different case out of a sea of many such cases sound relevant.
You are the one trying to make the OP case sound relevant and sound like it's racial.

Edit: Did you even understand the story you posted?

Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond, a dual U.S.-Australian citizen who called 911 to report a possible sexual assault behind her home. He was sentenced to 12 1/2 years on the murder count but was not sentenced for manslaughter.

The ruling means his murder conviction is overturned and the case will now go back to the district court, where he will be sentenced on the manslaughter count. He has already served more than 28 months of his murder sentence. If sentenced to the presumptive four years for manslaughter, he could be eligible for supervised release around the end of this year.

Following the link on the appeal of the initial conviction.

https://apnews.com/article/minneapol...317b52180d9955

The decision in Noor’s appeal is expected to affect the cases of the four ex-officers charged in Floyd’s death.

Former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin was convicted in April of second- and third-degree murder, as well as second-degree manslaughter, and is appealing. Prosecutors are seeking 30 years in prison for Chauvin, who will be sentenced June 25. The sentence wouldn’t change even if the Supreme Court rules in Noor’s favor, but that decision could become significant if Chauvin’s second-degree murder conviction were overturned on appeal. Prosecutors are seeking to add charges of aiding and abetting third-degree murder to the existing counts against three other ex-officers, who are due to go on trial in March.

The judge overseeing Chauvin’s trial initially threw out the third-degree murder charge against Chauvin, but later reinstated the count after the Court of Appeals affirmed Noor’s conviction. All four former officers also face federal civil rights charges.

So there you go. The same argument is being made "when the races are reversed."

Of course I understood it, you don't seem to.
They delayed charging him in the case for almost a year until public pressure forced them to.
Then they overturned the biggest charge he was convicted of and let him off easy.
That isn't going to happen to this cop who is already fired and charged, he'll get the book thrown at him and they'll throw away the key.

None of the cops in the Chauvin case got treated like that either, and they were far less guilty of anything.
That article speculating that they might benefit from the Noor precedent never came to anything.

[jmdrake]

Who cares?
They would just be exploiting it for politics, give it a little time and they probably will.
What actually matters is that the cop has already been fired and charged, hardly a case of "nobody cares".

That's exactly the point that I was making! Nobody (as in nobody on the political stage or of note) case because there is no political points to be made off of this death.

An entirely different case, there are many such travesties of justice and they happen to all races, just ask Randy Weaver's wife.

You simply said "if the races were reversed." I gave you a case where the races were reversed. Point, set, match.

Absolute garbage, the partner and the camera footage put the lie to it.

Just like the officer and the camera footage in the Philando Castile case, only that officer was acquitted and Noor was convicted. You're proving my point.

You are the one trying to make a completely different case out of a sea of many such cases sound relevant.
You are the one trying to make the OP case sound relevant and sound like it's racial.

You are being obtuse and making false accusations. The point that you seem to be unable to comprehend is there are times when a black person is unjustly killed by a white cop and nobody cares because there is nothing politically to be gained from it. So quit lying.

Of course I understood it, you don't seem to.

BS.

They delayed charging him in the case for almost a year until public pressure forced them to.
Then they overturned the biggest charge he was convicted of and let him off easy.

Under the "I was in fear of my life" standard in the Castille case he should have been acquitted.

That isn't going to happen to this cop who is already fired and charged, he'll get the book thrown at him and they'll throw away the key.

As he should because he doesn't even have the "I was in fear of my life" defense!

That article speculating that they might benefit from the Noor precedent never came to anything.

That's because Chauvin was also convicted of 2nd degree murder which carriers a higher sentence anyway and the sentences were running concurrently.

See: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...eral-rcna36958

Actually the way the case worked out, the judge in Chauvin's case initially threw out the third degree charge on the argument that the law only applied in more than one person was endangered by the actions of the accused, then reinstated it when Noor's appeal was thrown out. But the time the MN supreme court granted Noor's appeal, Chauvin was already convicted of the more serious 2nd degree murder charge.

See: https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-rein...ry?id=76387422

[CaptUSA]

That's exactly the point that I was making! Nobody (as in nobody on the political stage or of note) case because there is no political points to be made off of this death.

Yep. That's always the case. If you want on the news, the press needs to see the story as something that will resonate with their viewers/readers AND/OR you need to appeal to some political agenda.

[jmdrake]

Yep. That's always the case. If you want on the news, the press needs to see the story as something that will resonate with their viewers/readers AND/OR you need to appeal to some political agenda.

Precisely! Which is why if mass shooters use AR15 if they want to be on the news even though more actual mass shootings are done by handguns. Look at all of the MSM pundits trying to make hay over Trump being shot with an AR15 when an AR with a red dot is a pretty crappy long range sniper rifle. (Possibly why the shooter missed).

[oyarde]

Terrible and unnecessary . I will point out even if not needed . Lady was outside after 1 am after calling cops. I wouldnt do it and expect to live. Video must be very bad for firing and murder charge so quickly

[Anti Federalist]

Lesson learned: do not call cops.

[jkr]

Lesson learned: do not call cops.

^this^

[Invisible Man]

This looks like a case where the reason there is no media attention is because nobody is going to say the cop was right or had any kind of legitimate excuse, or that the woman did anything wrong. There's just not the opportunity to drum up controversy that the more publicized incidents bring.

[jmdrake]

Lesson learned: do not call cops.

[fisharmor]

There's another angle of "nobody cares" here.
When George Floyd was murdered and the world was ablaze that first couple days, the Minneapolis police response was to surround Chauvin's home.
The police cared in that case - they cared about Chauvin, and circled wagons around him, until after a precinct had been burned to the ground and it became clear that they had to stop caring so much about protecting their own or else the whole city was going to go up in flames.
So yeah, in the case of Grayson, nobody cared.
Nobody cared about all that thin blue line hogwash.

[unknown]

The DA won't get a conviction as a premeditated crime...

[Brian4Liberty]

Outrageous! There is no excuse for this murder.

https://x.com/johnbryanesq/status/1815480632513798469

[unknown]

What the actual $#@!.

[unknown]

JBT: "Ha ha keep that steaming water away from me".

Sonya: "Haa l rebuke you in the name of Jesus".

JBT: "Huh?"

Sonya: "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus".

JBT: "You better $#@!ing not or I'll shoot you in the $#@!ing face".

Sonya: "I'm sorry".

<kills her>

[unknown]

Full vid.

I'm not watching it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FSN0cqzl__4

[jmdrake]

Full vid.

I'm not watching it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FSN0cqzl__4

Thank you for posting this. For those who will watching the shooting happens between 14 and 15 minutes. At first they are just talking. She seems a little erratic but nothing dangerous. The cops are just trying to get her full name for the report. The defendant cop tells her to take a pot off the stove so their won't be a fire. She says something I can't hear and he says "You better not or I will shoot you in the f-ing face" Then he pulls out his gun and says "Dropping the f-ing pot." The other cop pull out his gun but never fires it. The defendant cop fires twice. Not a gun. Not a knife. A "f-ing pot." SMH!

[Occam's Banana]

Outrageous! There is no excuse for this murder.

https://x.com/johnbryanesq/status/1815480632513798469

VIDEO: Cop Shoots Innocent Woman Holding a Pot in her Kitchen | FIRED & CHARGED
https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/202...fired-charged/
{John H. Bryan | 22 July 2024}

The bodycam footage was released this afternoon by the Sangamon county Sheriff’s Office, following an investigation by the Illinois State Police that resulted in murder charges being filed against (now former) Deputy Sean P. Grayson. Here’s my initial analysis and breakdown of the footage.

VIDEO: Cop Shoots Innocent Woman Holding a Pot in her Kitchen | FIRED & CHARGED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jP3FGj7syI
{The Civil Rights Lawyer | 22 July 2024}

[Pinned comment @ YouTube: There are "some" cops and pro-police activists on X claiming that Sonya "threw" or "attempted to throw" the pot. This was NOT the conclusion of the Illinois State Police, as shown at the blog post link, which contains the indictment, as well as the uncensored clip of the shooting. DETAILS/Raw Clip/Indictment: https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/202...fired-charged/]

Here’s the uncensored clip of the shooting:

[video at link: https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/202...fired-charged/]

Some cops and pro-police activists on X are claiming that the video shows Sonya Massey “throwing” the pot at the officers. In reality, the conclusion of the Illinois State Police, as well as their police expert is that it only shows Sonya raising her hands while holding the pot. It does not show the pot being thrown. Moreover, the only view available is from the non-shooter officer (who did not fire, presumably because he didn’t feel it reasonable to do so). The shooter had his bodycam off in violation of his department policy, thus we have no footage of his point-of-view.

Here’s the language from the Indictment charging the shooter, mentioned above and in the video:

[Anti Federalist]

Lesson learned: do not call cops.

After watching that, I repeat: Do Not Call Cops.

There is never any guarantee that things can not go sideways in a matter of seconds and leave you dead.

Massey, Crump said, was “fatally shot” in the head “in her own home — after she called 911 suspecting a break-in.”

In separate comments, Crump reportedly said that it was “extremely hard to imagine how a woman who calls the police out of fear of an intruder ends up shot in the head by the police at her own home.”

No it's not.

Just watch it yourself.

Seen it hundreds, perhaps thousands of times.

Give it time...they may still spool up the machine for this.

[sparebulb]

They are overcharging him to give him a chance to get off.

This one is not a slam-dunk by any means.

[acptulsa]

..

[unknown]

They are overcharging him to give him a chance to get off.

This one is not a slam-dunk by any means.

That's exactly what they're doing.

It was murder but not premeditated.

[unknown]

..

Do a meme of a pot on a slight incline.

[unknown]

//

I rebuke you in the name of Jesus, I posted the dialogue above.

[jmdrake]

After watching that, I repeat: Do Not Call Cops.

There is never any guarantee that things can not go sideways in a matter of seconds and leave you dead.



No it's not.

Just watch it yourself.

Seen it hundreds, perhaps thousands of times.

Give it time...they may still spool up the machine for this.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again

[jmdrake]

JBT: "Ha ha keep that steaming water away from me".

Sonya: "Haa l rebuke you in the name of Jesus".

JBT: "Huh?"

Sonya: "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus".

JBT: "You better $#@!ing not or I'll shoot you in the $#@!ing face".

Sonya: "I'm sorry".

<kills her>

Seriously? That's what she said? "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus?" And then he shot her? Was this cop demon possessed or something?